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PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 3:54 pm    Post subject: South Omaha Veterans Memorial Bridge Reply with quote
Story in today's CB paper:

Officials: Four-lane bridge needed

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The new bridge will provide for four 12-foot-wide through lanes and a 4-foot-wide raised median with 10-foot-wide shoulders and a 10-foot-wide bike trail.

Its access on the Iowa side will stretch to just west of 36th Street where it will hook up with the South Omaha Bridge Road that will be widened to four lanes under a different project.

Most of the new bridge will be constructed while traffic is maintained on the existing bridge.

That bridge, however, will have to close for four to six months in the construction's final stages to complete the new structure.

Traffic will be detoured along Interstate 80 via South 13th Street in Omaha and South 24th Street in Council Bluffs.

Work is to begin in the fall of 2007 and completed three years later, officials said.


and today's OW-H:

Neighbors concerned by bridge

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Residents raised concerns Thursday about increased traffic, noise and loss of homes if the state proceeds with plans for replacing the Veterans Memorial Bridge in south Omaha.

Janet Bonet, a representative of the Spring Lake Neighborhood Association, said residents will be glad to have a wider, safer bridge. People in south Omaha use the bridge to get to Council Bluffs, and a new bridge would make the trip quicker and easier, she said.

Residents also are glad the new bridge would include a sidewalk, she said.

But Bonet said neighbors are concerned that increased traffic from the bigger bridge could make the neighborhood dangerous, particularly for children.

The Roads Department says the 69-year-old bridge needs to be replaced because it is deteriorating and too narrow, considering that traffic counts are predicted to increase.

The state says the intersection of 13th Street and Missouri Avenue must be reconstructed as part of the project.

The reconstruction of 13th Street would extend from south of O Street to J Street. The work on Missouri Avenue would extend west to 16th Street.



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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Sunday 7-30-2006








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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Hows the access to way down there? Will I need climbing gear?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
It was 102 yeasterday... every picture I posted on all the different threads were taken with out getting out the airconditoned car. I also took every single one without tresspassing!



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No trespassing? well thats no fun and not my style. So I'll leave the risk free stuff for you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No trespassing? well thats no fun and not my style. So I'll leave the risk free stuff for you.


I want to go take the other pictures, but you guys always go on friday when I am at work.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'll be glad when they get this new bridge up and going. I drove on that old thing a few yrs back and thought I was gonna die. The thing is a death trap.
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Construction pictures should be cool to see. That is a big valley they need to cross.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
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I'll be glad when they get this new bridge up and going. I drove on that old thing a few yrs back and thought I was gonna die. The thing is a death trap.


I don't think there's anyway we could disagree about this more. Confused
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Green space near new bridge 'makes sense,' needs dollars

Omaha World Herald wrote:
Spring Lake Neighborhood Association leaders and veterans groups are pushing for an unusual change in plans for a new Veterans Memorial Bridge in south Omaha. They want the state to buy more houses than planned. It's an idea that appears popular with just about everybody -even the affected homeowners.

The state would buy the three houses northwest of 13th Street and Missouri Avenue as part of the $88 million bridge construction project planned to begin in 2007. The intersection is going to be torn up anyway, and a turn lane and sewer right-of-way would eat up a good chunk of the houses' front yards.


I hope this happens. That would make a great improvement.



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PostPosted: Fri Nov 10, 2006 12:08 pm    Post subject: Heavy trucks are banned from south Omaha bridge Reply with quote
Heavy trucks are banned from south Omaha bridge

http://www.omaha.com/index.php?u_pg=1636&u_sid=2277065

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The Veterans Memorial Bridge in south Omaha will be closed to semis and other heavy trucks starting Wednesday.

The Nebraska Department of Roads is setting a 5-ton weight limit on the bridge because of deterioration. Cars, pickups and SUVs will be allowed on the bridge.

Tim Weander of the Department of Roads said the bridge's condition does not present an immediate danger, but the state wants to keep heavy trucks off it to reduce wear and tear, he said.

Construction of a new bridge is planned, but until the new span opens in summer 2010, heavy trucks will have to look for other ways to cross the Missouri River. The closest alternate route is the Interstate 80 bridge.

The state closed the 70-year-old Veterans Memorial Bridge to all traffic for several days last fall after structural problems were discovered. The bridge was reopened after repairs were made.



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 11, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Like I said before a death trap.
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Is this part of the overall project?

http://www.ci.omaha.ne.us/departments/city_council/agendas/ID%2002_06_07/Public%20Works/110.pdf



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PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2007 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Brad wrote:
Is this part of the overall project?

http://www.ci.omaha.ne.us/departments/city_council/agendas/ID%2002_06_07/Public%20Works/110.pdf


This is a separate but yet connected project.  It was approved and funded separately and managed with separate meetings.  The tie in is that unless lt  is done the new bridge cannot be built as designed.  The current access into the industrial area is off of 13th on J and this street will be closed at the bottom of the hill to allow for the new bridge construction and supports.  The streets and houses will end up being on a cul da sac rather than a through street with a lot of traffic.  The dirt work and the concrete supports for the new Gibson road access are complete or nearly complete.  I would guess that the spans for this will be placed early in the spring.  There will be two lanes up the new access and one coming down.  Currently there are many lengthy delays at the bottom of J where the Gibson road intersection is that cause traffic to back up all the way onto 13th street at times.  This is also a issue for emerg vehicle access into the industry area when a train can be blocking the road for up to 30 minutes and there is no other way in.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
That seems like such a big access bridge that is only going to serve those businesses down along the river.



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That seems like such a big access bridge that is only going to serve those businesses down along the river.



Most people have no idea how much traffic is in and out of this area.  I have seen the current RR crossing blocked by trains on the only way in and out and seen cars / trucks backed up to get into the area from the tracks, up the hill and backed up on 13th street for one to two blocks in each direction.  This is not a once in a blue moon occurrence either.  The access road will be one lane down the hill and two coming up.  With the waster treatment plant, the PCS Box Plant, Syngetna Ag chemicals, all the inbound and outbound freight from the rail yard, the new car's that are received on rail and distributed from here and another plant to the S. that I cannot think of the name of I would not be surprised if the truck count was over 1000 a day at times.  Then there is all the small vehicle traffic on top of that.  Unless you live or work in the area one thing that I think would surprise you by itself is the number of wast sludge trucks that go to the treatment plant to unload in a days time from pumping waste around the area be it septic systems or "other"  This is not oversized.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2007 3:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Also, right now that's 1000 trucks a day going through a residential neighborhood (with kids) to get down there.



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rendering of the new bridge


rendering of roads on nebraska side, looks like the walkway will be on the north side of the bridge


http://www.nebraskatransportation.org/projects/s-omaha-vet-mem/index.htm
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WOWT Ch 6 must be doing a story on the bridge replacement or on a tie in to the bridge collapse in Minn, Or both.  When I drove by the 13th St and HWY 275 intersection twice about 30 min apart at noon today WOWT had a vehicular there, camera set up, and a reporter interviewing someone on one pass by.  Tune in if you are interested.
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Starting Monday, the South Omaha Bridge will be closed for a month.



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Wow, I obviously haven't been following this thing too closely.  I didn't know there was going to be a Gibson viaduct - that will be nice to have to go to the BNSF yard and should be a good place to watch trains in addition to the new L Street bridge, that is if they have pedestrian access.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zephyr wrote:
Wow, I obviously haven't been following this thing too closely.  I didn't know there was going to be a Gibson viaduct - that will be nice to have to go to the BNSF yard and should be a good place to watch trains in addition to the new L Street bridge, that is if they have pedestrian access.



They have been pout concrete for a few weeks.  From the looks of it there will be a walking / bike access on the Gibson RR Overpass.  On the "river" side there is a 6 -8 foot wide pour that is at the curb height on the street.  Every so fare there is a outpour where I assume the lighting will be "planted".
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
nebugeater, how far along are they with the pouring?



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The deck has been poured for a while.  The approach off of 13th street and on the bottom onto Gibson have some work to be done yet.  They are forming and pouring the side guards this week.  They actually got a fair amount of work done over the weekend.  Yesterday there were some posts going up for the "cage" on the walking / biking lane.  It has been stated that it will be open by mid to late October.  I think there is a shot of making that with the main work to achieve this being on the approaches.  The elevation change from the new deck to the existing 13th street surface is fairly dramatic.  It will be interesting to see how this comes together.
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I would guess that this was more of an inspection than a repair event, although to restate, that is a guess.  I drive by there daily and I sure didn't see much activity going on on or under the bridge that was not directly tied to the new construction.  In fact I was wondering, watching this, if they were going to do anything to the bridge.



http://www.ketv.com/news/14247252/detail.html


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OMAHA, Neb. -- The Veterans Memorial Bridge reopened Monday afternoon.

The maintenance rehabilitation project was supposed to last 20 calendar days, but opened after just 14 days.

During that time the bridge, over the Missouri River, was closed to traffic in both Iowa and Nebraska.


Crews were working to increase the weight limit on the bridge. At this point, it can safely hold vehicles up to 5 tons


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No, it was maintenance that was required to keep the bridge open for another 18 months, as well as an inspection event.  Not sure what the maintenance/repairs were, but I would imagine they're dealing with corrosion and fatigue issues.



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The new one is ugly... couldn't we have done better to choose a new design?!
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The RR Overpass road for access form 13th street to Gibson Road will open Tomorrow (10/18/2007).  This is the one Brad has a photo of above.  The city provided notice to all the businesses in the area today.  They stripped to road yesterday, along with getting the lights on.  It will be nice to not have to sit and wait for a train to pass any more, sometimes up to an hour ( for real) and often for 20 - 30 minutes.

Now one with the true start of the S. Omaha Bridge work.
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I got to see this bridge when I was passing through town on Amtrak last month.  Next time I am visiting, I will definitely check this bridge out to do some train spotting!



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Next time I am visiting, I will definitely check this bridge out to do some train spotting!


There has been a large amount of SantaFe Blue and Yellow units down there lately.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
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No, it was maintenance that was required to keep the bridge open for another 18 months, as well as an inspection event.  Not sure what the maintenance/repairs were, but I would imagine they're dealing with corrosion and fatigue issues.


At this point I will have to be suspect of the stated bridge outage with even more ???? than I had when i was closed.  Someone is going to have to show me some evidence that they did ANYTHING on the bridge while it was closed.  My GUESS is that it was closed as more of a convienance for the work that was / is going on on 13th street so that the part that was crossing over HY275 would not have to be split in phases.  They did work on this while the bridge was closed.  

To restate what I said before, while this bridge was closed I was near it probably 6 out of every seven days and I never saw any work taking place on the bridge and I was watching to see what they would be doing.  What adds to my suspicions is that now that all this "work" is done and the bridge is open they HAVE been working on it most of this week.  The bridge has had one lane closed and traffic stopped a lot this week and they have had a bucket truck cantilevered around working on and under the bridge.  I am glade thy are keeping an eye on it and doing what is necessary but I have issue with a stated objective that closes it for three weeks and the observed facts seen to indicate that they did differently.
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I guess I did not realize that the bridge is actually going up too:






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i just wish they would have designed it a little differently
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i just wish they would have designed it a little differently


In what way?



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Well today I drove the Old bridge and saw that they were ready to install the first spans between to piers that are completed on the Iowa side.  I would guess from what I saw that they have had better days on this project.  Took these shots while drive so excuse the lack of quality.














From the looks of things to me they had the first three spans staged on the highway and when bringing the first one in to pick the temporary road bed that was in place was not solid enough.   That, in combination with the turn that they had to make was too much. It looks like it might have twisted and then rolled.  I would imaging that there were flagmen watching to guide the truck in and hopefully no one got hurt.  Once that got away there would not be much time to get out of the way.  Bet the job foremen and engineer in charge are answering a few questions.



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Ooops, that will cost ya.  Shocked
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That sucks!  Thanks for posting those photos!

How big do you think those spans are in comparison to the West Dodge Expressway spans?



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Omaha Veterans Memorial Bridge Project Update
Span to reopen in two weeks until next September

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Despite weather delays in the spring, the $80 million Omaha Veterans Memorial Bridge project is on schedule. "We're about year into it right now,” says Rich Zelensky of the Nebraska Department of Roads which is overseeing the construction of a new bridge, complete with a bike trail connecting Omaha and Council Bluffs.

The old bridge that has faithfully served the metro since 1936 will close for good next September and begin coming down. By June 2010 the new Omaha Veterans Memorial Bridge opens reuniting Omaha and Council Bluffs.



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 11:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
It looks like the old bridge is back open again for its last run.  I believe I have hard that in 8 months or so it will be closed for good so that the span connecting into 13th street from the new bridge can be completed.



http://www.ketv.com/news/17513159/detail.html?treets=oma&tid=2654246348813&tml=oma_12pm&tmi=oma_12pm_1_12000709192008&ts=H



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OMAHA, Neb. -- The Veterans Memorial Bridge in south Omaha has reopened after more than two months of repair work, according to the Nebraska Department of Roads.

Crews closed the bridge in July for pavement construction.

The bridge spans the Missouri River off of 13th Street in Omaha.  

A 5-ton vehicle weight restriction is in effect and an 8-feet vehicle height restriction still applies



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