Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby GetUrban » Fri Oct 20, 2017 12:30 pm

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:I like this project but I wish we’d stop with putting in blank walls at the street level.

Agreed. I'm not sure if this building has two levels of parking with basement-level parking under the street-level parking, but it would have been nice to have space for retail/commercial at street-level. I'm guessing it just has one level of parking at street level.

I like the design though. But there seem to be a lot of new designs that have the trendy extruded rectangular box shape protruding from the facade in some manner, including the new HDR at AK, to name one of many.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Oct 20, 2017 1:29 pm

Not sure what 13th will look like at the end, but remember the blank wall featured in that picture bumps up to train tracks not a sidewalk.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby iamjacobm » Sun Dec 17, 2017 12:58 pm

Looking pretty much complete from the outside, nice looking building.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Feb 12, 2018 8:29 am

Quick photo while walking into the Creighton game on Saturday:

The building looks very nice, but I don't know why there are so many buildings with that exact same design or very similar.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby skinzfan23 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:05 am

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby Louie » Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:36 pm

skinzfan23 wrote:Quick photo while walking into the Creighton game on Saturday:

The building looks very nice, but I don't know why there are so many buildings with that exact same design or very similar.

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Is there a name for the style? Its been quite prevalent nationally over the past 5-10 years.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby buildomaha » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:10 pm

Louie wrote:
skinzfan23 wrote:Quick photo while walking into the Creighton game on Saturday:

The building looks very nice, but I don't know why there are so many buildings with that exact same design or very similar.

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Is there a name for the style? Its been quite prevalent nationally over the past 5-10 years.

And I'm not a fan. This style is what architects give to someone who wants a good looking building with minimal costs and efforts. There is no pride in having a blank, unrecognizable building with zero distinguishing features. Sorry to go off on this, but I wonder what happened to having pride in what you build.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby EastCB » Tue Feb 13, 2018 7:49 pm

buildomaha wrote:
Louie wrote:
skinzfan23 wrote:Quick photo while walking into the Creighton game on Saturday:

The building looks very nice, but I don't know why there are so many buildings with that exact same design or very similar.

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Is there a name for the style? Its been quite prevalent nationally over the past 5-10 years.

And I'm not a fan. This style is what architects give to someone who wants a good looking building with minimal costs and efforts. There is no pride in having a blank, unrecognizable building with zero distinguishing features. Sorry to go off on this, but I wonder what happened to having pride in what you build.

I agree.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby Busguy2010 » Tue Feb 13, 2018 11:56 pm

buildomaha wrote:This style is what architects give to someone who wants a good looking building with minimal costs and efforts. There is no pride in having a blank, unrecognizable building with zero distinguishing features. Sorry to go off on this, but I wonder what happened to having pride in what you build.


I don't see this as a problem. Yeah, maybe it is uninspiring, but it is a good looking building and It's a product of the market. What style are you looking for?

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby Louie » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:29 pm

buildomaha wrote:
Louie wrote:
skinzfan23 wrote:Quick photo while walking into the Creighton game on Saturday:

The building looks very nice, but I don't know why there are so many buildings with that exact same design or very similar.

Image

Is there a name for the style? Its been quite prevalent nationally over the past 5-10 years.

And I'm not a fan. This style is what architects give to someone who wants a good looking building with minimal costs and efforts. There is no pride in having a blank, unrecognizable building with zero distinguishing features. Sorry to go off on this, but I wonder what happened to having pride in what you build.

My biggest peeve with it is the complete lack of street features and character. These buildings always seem cold to me.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby daveoma » Sun Feb 18, 2018 8:13 pm

I think it's gorgeous.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby GetUrban » Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:16 pm

Here's an image of building in Utah that has some similar features, popular among many designers these days...

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby skinzfan23 » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:15 pm

Here is another one locally (Women's Center for Advancement, 3801 Harney)

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I get that it is popular, but it is crazy how so many of the designs one office buildings look this way in Omaha in the past 3-5 years. I agree that the Alvine building looks nice, but I just wish there would be some creativity in designing buildings.

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby GetUrban » Tue Feb 20, 2018 3:44 pm

I forgot about that one!

Some of the similarities have to do with the manufacturers of the building components, such as metal panels and curtain walls, that you see on new buildings. They publish photos of their products in marketing materials. Some of the detailing of how the products actually are made to fit together comes from the manufacturer's own engineering departments and is utilized by architects.

Similarities in building design have been happening throughout history all the way back to the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc.

The same thing happens in Automobile design with many designers picking up design cues from each other's current designs. Their cars all begin to look the same until people start getting tired of them and something more innovative comes along again to be repeated.
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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby Louie » Tue Feb 20, 2018 9:32 pm

GetUrban wrote:I forgot about that one!

Some of the similarities have to do with the manufacturers of the building components, such as metal panels and curtain walls, that you see on new buildings. They publish photos of their products in marketing materials. Some of the detailing of how the products actually are made to fit together comes from the manufacturer's own engineering departments and is utilized by architects.

Similarities in building design have been happening throughout history all the way back to the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc.

The same thing happens in Automobile design with many designers picking up design cues from each other's current designs. Their cars all begin to look the same until people start getting tired of them and something more innovative comes along again to be repeated.

Fair enough. What is your opinion on the style?

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Re: Alvine Building (13th and Cass)

Postby GetUrban » Wed Feb 21, 2018 10:58 am

Louie wrote:
GetUrban wrote:I forgot about that one!

Some of the similarities have to do with the manufacturers of the building components, such as metal panels and curtain walls, that you see on new buildings. They publish photos of their products in marketing materials. Some of the detailing of how the products actually are made to fit together comes from the manufacturer's own engineering departments and is utilized by architects.

Similarities in building design have been happening throughout history all the way back to the Egyptians, Greeks, Romans, etc.

The same thing happens in Automobile design with many designers picking up design cues from each other's current designs. Their cars all begin to look the same until people start getting tired of them and something more innovative comes along again to be repeated.

Fair enough. What is your opinion on the style?


I actually like the style, if you can call it that. It still looks fresh, even though elements are being copied often. I don't know if anyone has come up with a critically-recognized name for for it yet, or if it is just a variation of an already existing style. It's not really Late-Modern, Post Modern, Brutal-ism, or De-Constructivist. I think of it as "Extruded Frame" architecture, for lack of a better description. Usually the name that ends up getting adopted by historians for a style refers to the underlying ideas and principles behind a look that drive the appearance. Maybe it should be called "Neo-Mid 20th-Century Modern." If that name sticks, you heard it here first!
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