I'll agree that it designed to be temporary. Even if it is there for a year or two before it gets developed. Note the lack of anything that is real costly and/or "hard" to move somewhere. No fountains, etc.
When a building is constructed there, I can see it looking a lot like the World Herald/Qwest building block minus the garage on the west end. Build the garage underneath the building (making it a taller ) and leave half the block as greenspace. The W-H gets to keep their green walkway, the new building has a nice greenspace beside it, and we get a new 300+ footer office tower.
But i want it nooooow! Â again, 2 years is FOREVER. Â That is, unless they announce it in a year (fingers crossed), start building, and by the time the CWS is downtown, there will be that sweet shot of another highrise being built into the skyline, with the back drop of woodmen, fnb, and wto
the1wags wrote:I'll agree that it designed to be temporary. Even if it is there for a year or two before it gets developed. Note the lack of anything that is real costly and/or "hard" to move somewhere. No fountains, etc.
Now, if those trees are potted when it gets built, I'll be extra happy
Brad wrote:That's just odd. I bet if anyone other than the OWH owned the property the OWH would be doing a story on it, but since its their own, they don't have to if they are hiding a big surprise. If they are selling the property they would not have done the demo work they have.
Time to call in the HeartLand Messenger! Â Â :lol:
I know everyone is hoping for the possibility of this land being sold and developed into a gleaming corporate structure. Â However, anyone considered the possibility of them redeveloping this property for a new World Herald structure?
From the linked W.H. article: Â "This is an important piece of land for our company..." says W.H. CEO Terry Kroeger.
Mmmmm...I don't think so. Â They moved all their administrative offices into the Qwest building, and put big old OWH signs on it. Â
I think we'll get a private developer or another private company.
"The right to have access to every building in the city by private motorcar in an age when everyone possesses such a vehicle is actually the right to destroy the city."
Lewis Mumford, The Highway and the City, 1963
do we underestimate their sneakiness? Â Sneaky, sneaky. Â Man, I'd be tickled |expletive|-less if we got something of a mid-range height out of this to compliment wall street tower and the hopefully soon-to-be-announced hotel on pinnacle/Swanson. Â We're getting some density it seems, and I'd love it if there were to be some height coming too.
thenewguy wrote:do we underestimate their sneakiness? Â Sneaky, sneaky. Â Man, I'd be tickled |expletive|-less if we got something of a mid-range height out of this to compliment wall street tower and the hopefully soon-to-be-announced hotel on pinnacle/Swanson. Â We're getting some density it seems, and I'd love it if there were to be some height coming too.
Don't we all?
I don't think they are being that sneaky...they did run a story on it. Â And I wouldn't get too excited about the hotel on the Swanson site. Â That parking will be needed during construction. Â I would bet we don't see anything about that until 2012 at least. Â
I am not that convinced that someone is already planning something for that site. Â There is an entire empty block right across the street. Â That doesn't mean I am not hoping someone will build something, but I am not getting too excited for the time being.
damn... I have run in to plenty of stuff with a skid loader, only thing I ever broke was a fluorescent light fixture. Â Still some odd demolition between the two buildings down there. Â I can't wait to see how messed up the demo of the Swanson plant is going to be with all the pipes and such.
Brad wrote: I can't wait to see how messed up the demo of the Swanson plant is going to be with all the pipes and such.
If these latest demos are any indication: A large man with a wrench and a wheelbarrow.
the can just let the meth junkies in and they can strip that place out in a few hours in from 2am to 5am
On a serious note, I got a photo looking in through the door on the north side. Â They have a big area with all three floors open and they are pushing debris in to the open area.
Josh, time to snap some more photos from above. Â I just shot one through the door. Â That north east corner is already down to the ground on the inside.
I talked to someone (who appeared to be somewhat "in the know") today and asked about what was going on. Â I played dumb, saying that i saw there was some action going on there. Â He said that they were planning a park that would compliment Wall Street nicely (though I'm not quoting it word for word). Â I said "yeah, that will be cool" and he followed it up with, "...that is unless someone finds it worth while to build something big on," with a smirk on his face. Â I just agreed, but thought the whole time that he knew a little something more than he was letting on. Â He did mention that though it would be a nice park, it wasn't going to be "too permanent"
I talked with a friend tonight who works with the OWH Â and he said building is about empty inside. Â He said he looked up through a window and saw blue sky. Â He thinks it will remain a park for awhile because they are putting a lot of money in it ---- so time will tell.
Uffda wrote:I talked with a friend tonight who works with the OWH and he said building is about empty inside. He said he looked up through a window and saw blue sky. He thinks it will remain a park for awhile because they are putting a lot of money in it ---- so time will tell.
that is WAY too big to remain a park for long. Â that's like eating an omelet with condor eggs. Â Yeah, the end result is about the same, but is it worth the money and effort to achieve it? Â Surely there are other smaller plots of land that would be worthy of a nice park.
...and imagine if ONLY they put one up on the Swanson site!? Â Nothing big, but of similar height to Wall Street...that's a picture I'd like to see. Â I've got chills, brother.
That doesn't look like a D'Shawn original. Â He has done these before, and he has a different style. Â This has to be from someone else. Â Whatever the case, its good to see that DTO isn' the only person at Pacific Life speculating about a new tower.
That doesn't look like a D'Shawn original. He has done these before, and he has a different style. This has to be from someone else. Whatever the case, its good to see that DTO isn' the only person at Pacific Life speculating about a new tower.
Go NE stated that the rendering he posted was from DTO over on city-data.
Go NE wrote:
Pacific Life Tower, its a rendering one of my friends who works for Pacific Life made. Please note that this picture is a bit misleading.
So i wonder...and this is for DTO (or anyone else 'in-the-know' as far as Pacific Life is concerned)...but is there any traction to this yet? Â Is it still just a hope and a dream or is there something more in the works that anyone could shed light on? Â I was cruising around city-data while the site was down and it had me wondering. Â I'm going to see if i can't come up with something that would show Pacific Life, Wall Street Tower, and a hotel on Swanson to go with Woodmen and First National. Â I can't wait for it to be like 3 years from now.
) and leave half the block as greenspace. The W-H gets to keep their green walkway, the new building has a nice greenspace beside it, and we get a new 300+ footer office tower. 
