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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Thu Sep 17, 2015 11:44 pm

Not that it matters but I would like to see the footprints as they are aligned to the block.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Joe_Sovereign » Fri Sep 18, 2015 9:43 am

I think the Office Space would be a nice feature and would add to day time activity at the building. This location is right next store to the Hilton so it would not be a bad location for a Bar or Restaurant. I know we want to see more diverse retail in the area and Lot B will obviously contain a lot of retail.

Perhaps Lanoha can add a floor or two more residential to their design.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby U R my Helix » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:12 pm

I am surprised that the City of Omaha only received two proposals. Does anyone know what the RFP process is? Did they make it public to all developers or do they just offer the opportunity to a couple of company's?

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Sep 18, 2015 6:32 pm

U R my Helix wrote:I am surprised that the City of Omaha only received two proposals. Does anyone know what the RFP process is? Did they make it public to all developers or do they just offer the opportunity to a couple of company's?


Anyone can bid. Have to remember from a developer POV that only one can be chosen so it isn't worth spending time and money making a proposal if you are too busy with projects elsewhere and can't put enough effort in a proposal good enough to win. That or some developers might not see the value of the land that the city is offering. Probably a number of other reasons proposals don't get sent in.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby mcarch » Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:55 pm

I like the design of Lanoha's but the height of the first. I believe anything that is to be built down there NEEDS to be at LEAST 5 floors. Otherwise you are just wasting space. Retail/Office on the first floor should also be a requirement.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Sat Sep 19, 2015 5:40 pm

I hate when they get two submissions each with something desirable, if only a five floor building with office/retail had been submitted. So why didn't the RFP just stipulate office/retail!!
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Garrett » Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:14 pm

I think we've covered pretty well by now why office/retail isn't necessary in this location.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Midwestern » Sat Sep 19, 2015 11:11 pm

I honestly wouldn't be worried whatsoever that this lot only got 2 proposals. This is easily the least desirable of all of the DT area lots that will be up for development soon.

Now if Lot B doesn't get at least 3 or 4 good proposals, then I'd start getting worried...

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby daveoma » Sun Sep 20, 2015 1:05 am

I'm really excited for either of these proposals to be selected, however I am partial to Alchemy's.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Mon Oct 05, 2015 11:19 am

Would the five floor building be at all visible from the freeway?
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Midwestern » Sat Nov 21, 2015 1:22 am

The Lanoha (the mixed-use one of the two options) proposal has been selected.

Expected completion of Summer 2017.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby iamjacobm » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:04 am

Nice. Glad they can move forward, lets see some 2016 activity.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby skinzfan23 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:18 am

Glad that one is chosen but I prefer the brick look of the other building. I am also a little concerned with the need for retail space at this site. There is virtually no pedestrian traffic there except when the CWS is happening. I just think it will be hard to find tenants who can make a go of the space. The retail portion will probably sit vacant most of the year.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby omahahawk » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:35 am

I don't know, in my humble opinion I think they picked the better of the two ultimately.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Coyote » Sat Nov 21, 2015 9:50 am

So this is the proposal that goes forward:

Lanoha proposes a four-story complex with fewer apartments, 45, but with office and retail space as well.

The first floor would contain retail and office bays, a lobby and 50 parking stalls. The second level would be made up of offices and a covered terrace, and the third and fourth floors would contain apartments.

Lanoha’s design by Alley Poyner Macchietto Architecture also features a third-floor deck and a community space.

Jason Lanoha of Lanoha Development declined to disclose the project’s price tag. He said his firm chose a mixed-use approach to add around-the-clock action that he said would move north downtown forward.


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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Sat Nov 21, 2015 10:42 am

Any idea when the dirt will fly? "Done by 2017" so pretty soon then.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Midwestern » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:49 pm

The retail portion might be difficult to make work at first, but hopefully within a decade there will be enough activity around there to have a solid tenant or tenants there.

I'd rather see an empty retail bay for several years that then gets filled later on, rather than not having any retail space available there in the future when it is needed.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MadMartin8 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:29 pm

skinzfan23 wrote:Glad that one is chosen but I prefer the brick look of the other building. I am also a little concerned with the need for retail space at this site. There is virtually no pedestrian traffic there except when the CWS is happening. I just think it will be hard to find tenants who can make a go of the space. The retail portion will probably sit vacant most of the year.



Remember, there are going to be a lot of new people in North downtown that weren't there before. Shamrock, the apartments here, the apartments at The Yard, the one being built on...Nicholas(?). So who knows what the future holds.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Linkin5 » Sun Nov 22, 2015 6:35 am

skinzfan23 wrote:Glad that one is chosen but I prefer the brick look of the other building. I am also a little concerned with the need for retail space at this site. There is virtually no pedestrian traffic there except when the CWS is happening. I just think it will be hard to find tenants who can make a go of the space. The retail portion will probably sit vacant most of the year.

Retail might be hard to work at first, but NDT and right over the viaduct in it's current form are due to change within the next 2-10 years.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Joe_Sovereign » Mon Dec 21, 2015 11:05 am

The retail may be difficult but this is not far from Creighton, across the street from a 600 room hotel, Capitol (Shamrock) development around the corner. There are specialty business that could draw enough business in this location. Who knows by the time this project is finished you could have hundreds of apartments under construction in Lot B.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby vvindows10 » Mon Dec 21, 2015 6:37 pm

The little commercial space in this building is well located as it is near the hotels. They can sell maps "Hollywood Style" of where all the historic buildings used to be and give tours of Omaha.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:14 pm

This would be a greate place for an Coyote Ugly.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Coyote » Tue Dec 22, 2015 6:25 pm

MTO wrote:This would be a greate place for an Coyote Ugly.


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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby PotatoeEatsFish » Wed Dec 23, 2015 10:35 pm

I like Alchemy’s plan better but the lack of retail in the proposal killed it. Who cares though, it's filling in an empty lot! Is that a garage entrance to the left?
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby iamjacobm » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:38 am

http://www.omaha.com/money/alvine-and-associates-will-move-to-new-hq-even-though/article_1476a253-0384-5106-8700-54e16ff9ca64.html

The privately held firm founded by Ray Alvine and now led by sons Doug and Steve told The World-Herald it will put up for sale its current corporate base at 11th and Douglas Streets and relocate to a new headquarters at 12th and Cass Streets.

Construction is to begin yet this year on the new $15.5 million office, retail and apartment structure to be built in partnership with Lanoha Development.
Just a stroll from the College World Series ballfield and CenturyLink Center, the five-story building is expected to raise Alvine’s visibility and bring more bustle to north downtown Omaha.


Building from scratch allows the engineering firm to tailor 30,500 square feet to its particular office needs, and look at implementing cutting-edge technology used and seen in Alvine-involved projects around the country. That can include things like rainwater harvesting, on-site gray water treatment, green roofs and well-building certification — or designing a building with employees’ health and wellness in mind.

The company’s high-power systems in turn also are expected to benefit apartment dwellers sharing the 90,000-square-foot structure with Alvine.
For example, said Doug Alvine: “They could get super-high-speed Internet that would not exist in a typical environment.” Indeed, he predicted that some of Alvine’s own employees would choose to live in the 45 apartments that will occupy the upper floors.


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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby OmahaJaysCU » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:43 am

So are there no longer apartments included in this project?

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby iamjacobm » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:46 am

Article says 45 units.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Linkin5 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 7:50 am

I liked the first design a lot more..

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:25 am

Me too but at least this ones a floor taller.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:38 am

Says they are still going to start construction yet this year. Maybe it will still be finished by 2017 like originally thought.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby RNcyanide » Mon Apr 25, 2016 8:43 am

I actually like this one a bit more than the old rendering.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:02 am

RNcyanide wrote:I actually like this one a bit more than the old rendering.

I do too, but I liked the outside deck on the old rendering better.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:07 am

The building in this rendering looks a lot smaller than the other one. Maybe this is a side view?
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:12 am

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:The building in this rendering looks a lot smaller than the other one. Maybe this is a side view?

I don't know but hopefully it takes up the majority of the site like the other one was going to.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby GetUrban » Mon Apr 25, 2016 9:38 am

I like the new design more than the first one. Same architect.....Alley Poyner Machietto. It will be great to have Alvine continue to be a long-term business tenant downtown, along with 45 residential units and some ground floor retail.
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby MTO » Mon Apr 25, 2016 3:05 pm

So what are you guys thinking those floors are looking 10', 12'?
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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby nativeomahan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:33 pm

This will be a plus for north downtown. I hope that construction can start yet this summer.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby nativeomahan » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:34 pm

I would suggest a renaming of the thread.

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Re: 13th and Cass (WST Showroom)

Postby Brad » Mon Apr 25, 2016 10:44 pm

nativeomahan wrote:I would suggest a renaming of the thread.


I thought about that earlier, but there really isn't a project name? "13& Cass Mixed use building?"
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