Nichol Flats (16th and Nicholas St)

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Mon May 19, 2014 2:17 pm

Crappy phone picture:

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Mon May 19, 2014 8:21 pm

Is that fence up for demo?

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Mon May 19, 2014 8:29 pm

MTO wrote:Is that fence up for demo?

I think so, but I'm not sure exactly what the plan is.

The fence is new, but they've been doing a lot of work inside for the past couple of weeks.

Post by **Coyote** » Mon May 19, 2014 9:03 pm

Those cross streets have been closed for months for what looks like infrastructure work.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Jun 17, 2014 5:24 pm

Ben wrote:I love that firehouse too, but the reality is that its in really rough shape. I mean barely still standing. Its been a while since I've been past, but there was a huge shift in the bricks, creating a large crack on what I think I remember as the north side. Not anything that could be fixed with some tuckpointing...

According to Imperative Voice the building has a demo permit out from the city.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:33 pm

I think the building is gone. Not 100% as I didn't get a great look down 16th.

Post by **Coyote** » Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:38 pm

iamjacobm wrote:I think the building is gone. Not 100% as I didn't get a great look down 16th.

if I remember I'll check this out on my way home in the morning. I know the 16th St roadwork (sewer line?) was recently finished, so 16th is open again.

Post by **Coyote** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 6:32 am

It certainly looked like the buildings were gone this morning, but the street work continues. Nicholas and 16th is still blocked off to traffic.

TazeOMA · Post by **TazeOMA** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:43 am

: 16th and Nicholas; Nicholas Flats.jpg (104.62 KiB) Viewed 4297 times

I would say this was done sometime late last week because it was gone as of Saturday afternoon.

Post by **Brad** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:58 am

Nice view and welcome to the forum!

Post by **Coyote** » Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:37 pm

Sweet! Thanks for posting!

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:06 pm

The developers must have gotten financing for both these projects at the same meeting or something, grading work happening here just like at the Omaha Hotel site.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Thu Sep 25, 2014 5:44 pm

Construction trailer and lots of rebar on site. Looks like this should be going up soon.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 3:12 pm

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 6:32 pm

Doesn't look like steel construction. Wasn't this going to be like 5 stories?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Tue Oct 14, 2014 7:06 pm

Louie wrote:Doesn't look like steel construction. Wasn't this going to be like 5 stories?

Kind of looks like there will be a concrete podium for parking then stick build the rest. Thats what Jones13, 1501 Jackson and SPACES all did.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Tue Oct 28, 2014 2:34 pm

iamjacobm wrote:
Louie wrote:Doesn't look like steel construction. Wasn't this going to be like 5 stories?
Kind of looks like there will be a concrete podium for parking then stick build the rest. Thats what Jones13, 1501 Jackson and SPACES all did.

Typical multi-family wood frame buildings are limited to three or four stories, but reinforced concrete or structural steel podiums don't count. That's why you see a lot of four and five story apartments with a concrete first level, and wood frame construction above that. Wood frame structures can be built to five stories and taller, but become more expensive due to more fire protection requirements and sprinklering.

Post by **Coyote** » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:44 pm

78,480 SF for 67 Apartment (just over 1k SF per Apt?)
10,922 SF for Parking Garage
6,693 SF for Office Space

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Sun Nov 09, 2014 11:26 pm

Coyote wrote:78,480 SF for 67 Apartment (just over 1k SF per Apt?)
10,922 SF for Parking Garage
6,693 SF for Office Space

Maybe the apartment SF includes an amenity room?

Post by **Coyote** » Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:44 pm

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:12 am

How's progress on this?

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:13 am

Garrett wrote:How's progress on this?

Footings went in recently. Looks like they have a lot more focus on their hotel project on 24th though.

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:17 am

Garrett wrote:How's progress on this?

I keep driving by hoping for signs of anything new... Nothing new for a while now...

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:17 pm

I checked yesterday and nothing new to report. I'm assuming after winter stuff will start picking up. And I was thinking this these projects up on Nicholas, the hotel on 24th and Farnam and the Corvina on 10th there will be nothingore to watch. Is this a normal part of the cycle or is there an actual loss of momentum?

realestate_zach · Post by **realestate_zach** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 7:28 pm

MTO wrote:I checked yesterday and nothing new to report. I'm assuming after winter stuff will start picking up. And I was thinking this these projects up on Nicholas, the hotel on 24th and Farnam and the Corvina on 10th there will be nothingore to watch. Is this a normal part of the cycle or is there an actual loss of momentum?

I think there will be plenty to watch, The Flats on Howard (Arch Icon's deal at 22nd and Howard), The Rochester Midlands building, The Power Plant (as soon as demo is complete, that is a huge project), The Capitol District (I know this is not necessarily the popular opinion, but I really think it will start this year), There will be some ground up development in the Park Avenue/Leavenworth area, and more projects are being announced all the time. Things do tend to move slower in the winter, but I think we will see more projects getting going as the weather warms up.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Wed Feb 04, 2015 8:33 pm

realestate_zach wrote:
MTO wrote:I checked yesterday and nothing new to report. I'm assuming after winter stuff will start picking up. And I was thinking this these projects up on Nicholas, the hotel on 24th and Farnam and the Corvina on 10th there will be nothingore to watch. Is this a normal part of the cycle or is there an actual loss of momentum?

I think there will be plenty to watch, The Flats on Howard (Arch Icon's deal at 22nd and Howard), The Rochester Midlands building, The Power Plant (as soon as demo is complete, that is a huge project), The Capitol District (I know this is not necessarily the popular opinion, but I really think it will start this year), There will be some ground up development in the Park Avenue/Leavenworth area, and more projects are being announced all the time. Things do tend to move slower in the winter, but I think we will see more projects getting going as the weather warms up.

Is there a pattern with warmer weather and new project announcements/faster construction? Just curious.

realestate_zach · Post by **realestate_zach** » Thu Feb 05, 2015 10:07 am

Yes, construction speeds up in warmer weather, as contractors don't have to wait for warm enough days for pouring concrete, framing, etc. They will work through some of the coldest weather, but if they need to pour concrete they will be slowed by frigid temperatures.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Feb 06, 2015 3:39 pm

MTO wrote:I checked yesterday and nothing new to report. I'm assuming after winter stuff will start picking up. And I was thinking this these projects up on Nicholas, the hotel on 24th and Farnam and the Corvina on 10th there will be nothingore to watch. Is this a normal part of the cycle or is there an actual loss of momentum?

Kind of seems like the action is shifting west for a little bit. Midtown Triangle/Elkard Court/The Conrad will make Leavenworth pretty busy this summer. UNMC is going to be crazy this summer when the hotel starts along with everything else going up. I hope the new building in Dundee will start this summer and Benson getting some substantial new construction. Plus two projects in the Blackstone area. That is 11 different projects add the three you mentioned and thats 14 getting ready/already going.

The "if we are lucky" things to watch include Crossroads and Capitol.

I wouldn't be surprised to see another ~100 unit project announced downtown this spring/summer. Lots of really high occupancy rates downtown.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:43 pm

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Mar 11, 2015 10:23 pm

Post by **Coyote** » Mon Mar 16, 2015 1:05 pm

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Thu Apr 23, 2015 1:45 pm

When I was home a couple weekends ago this thing was looking big.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed May 06, 2015 11:02 am

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:05 pm

I am wondering if they are splitting their crew between this is the hotel, not a lot of progress here the past few weeks.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed May 06, 2015 12:56 pm

Was there ever a rendering for this project?

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed May 06, 2015 1:14 pm

Linkin5 wrote:Was there ever a rendering for this project?

I was wondering the same thing. I went back to the original article in the paper and didn't see one. I think this project got TIF....can someone find a rendering in the TIF documents?

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Wed May 06, 2015 1:18 pm

This is all I could find from the TIF documents:

Nichol Flats by scottstronck, on Flickr

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:03 pm

Nice, thanks. It seems kind of strange they didn't release anything better than that.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:52 pm

The streets up there still look like Baghdad but It's a killer view of the CBD looking down 16th.

MTO · Post by **MTO** » Wed May 06, 2015 3:53 pm

On my browser these panos I've posted are getting cut off is it just my browser"