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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:25 am

MTO wrote:Is that building white and orange or black and blue.


It depends on how the light enters the eye, I suppose :shrug:
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby hatwate » Sat Feb 28, 2015 11:27 am

I cannot help myself. I spy with my little eye that the garage is concrete gray and the Pacific LIfe is reddish orange. Of course, I think 'the dress' is white and gold so you might not be able to trust my eye :D 8) O.K. I am done and hope that I haven't started something.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby HR Paperstacks » Sat Feb 28, 2015 3:10 pm

MTO wrote:Is that building white and orange or black and blue.

It''s actually yellow and green.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby Seth » Wed Mar 04, 2015 1:24 pm

MTO wrote:Is that building white and orange or black and blue.


Please tell me the "what color is the dress" trend hasn't infected eomahaforums too.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby Coyote » Wed Mar 04, 2015 11:56 pm

Pre-fab garage forms rolling in, hoisted up in no time at all:

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby skinzfan23 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 7:55 am

Doesn't look great aesthetically. I wonder if they are going to at least paint the garage. I doubt there will be any brickwork done on it.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:13 am

I'm not too worried about it. There's going to be other buildings in front of the garage, so at least it will be mostly hidden.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby skinzfan23 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:28 am

RNcyanide wrote:I'm not too worried about it. There's going to be other buildings in front of the garage, so at least it will be mostly hidden.

That is true, I forgot that buildings will surround the garage similar to the other garage behind Liv Lounge and Jones Bros.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:29 am

If I'm not mistaken, they also painted that one to match the buildings around it though, so it wouldn't be completely hideous.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby hatwate » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:45 am

I think there will be apartments or townhouses between it and the street on the west side of it.

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Postby lmdramos » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:26 pm

It doesn't look like there's enough space for a building there. It's gonna have to be pretty narrow.

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Postby skinzfan23 » Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:20 pm

This is the site plan:
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby Coyote » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:00 am

lmdramos wrote:It doesn't look like there's enough space for a building there. It's gonna have to be pretty narrow.

Yes, narrow, but room enough, probably not many windows on the east side though...

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:33 am

They may just build it right up against the parking garage.
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Postby GetUrban » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:39 pm

Looks like the lofts will be about 40'-50' deep, with a good view of the little Papio to the west.

This is a great example of how more developments should be done in Omaha. Higher-density, street frontage for retail and residential, with parking hidden behind the higher uses. Too bad the land out at 192nd & West Dodge isn't being used this wisely. One can hope that area will eventually fill-in once clear land is no longer available.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:41 pm

GetUrban wrote:Looks like the lofts will be about 40'-50' deep, with a good view of the little Papio to the west.

This is a great example of how more developments should be done in Omaha. Higher-density, street frontage for retail and residential, with parking hidden behind the higher uses. Too bad the land out at 192nd & West Dodge isn't being used this wisely. One can hope that area will eventually fill-in once clear land is no longer available.


This is a good step in the right direction. Let's see how other developments in key parts of town pan out.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:43 pm

GetUrban wrote:Looks like the lofts will be about 40'-50' deep, with a good view of the little Papio to the west.

This is a great example of how more developments should be done in Omaha. Higher-density, street frontage for retail and residential, with parking hidden behind the higher uses. Too bad the land out at 192nd & West Dodge isn't being used this wisely. One can hope that area will eventually fill-in once clear land is no longer available.


A/V is a great example of the mostly right way to do infill. North Downtown is a more likely future peer than West Dodge though.

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Postby MTO » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:44 pm

It's a creak not The French Riviera. But yeah this is how it should be done in North Downtown as well.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:47 pm

I'm not even as much as a skyscraper fanboy anymore. Give me buildings the scale of PacLife or Gordman's on every empty lot downtown and we would have a crazy vibrant core.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby GetUrban » Fri Mar 06, 2015 12:54 pm

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GetUrban wrote:Looks like the lofts will be about 40'-50' deep, with a good view of the little Papio to the west.

This is a great example of how more developments should be done in Omaha. Higher-density, street frontage for retail and residential, with parking hidden behind the higher uses. Too bad the land out at 192nd & West Dodge isn't being used this wisely. One can hope that area will eventually fill-in once clear land is no longer available.


A/V is a great example of the mostly right way to do infill. North Downtown is a more likely future peer than West Dodge though.


For all practical purposes, the A/V property was pretty much a blank slate (similar to the farm fields out west) after the Aksarben racetrack and associated buildings and pavement were cleared away. But I agree, it's a good example of how to do infill too. :yes: it just took good planning on how to maximize the development potential and blend into the existing urban fabric.

Edit: I should add... I agree it would be a good model of how to develop North Downtown too. But I see no reason that 40 acre (or larger) parcels out west couldn't be developed the same way. It helps that the street grid was partially reestablished through A/V so that it could tie-in with earlier or future developments bordering the development. Street Grids... What a novel idea!
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Postby Coyote » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:07 pm

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Postby Garrett » Fri Mar 06, 2015 1:14 pm

iamjacobm wrote:I'm not even as much as a skyscraper fanboy anymore. Give me buildings the scale of PacLife or Gordman's on every empty lot downtown and we would have a crazy vibrant core.


Exactly. Most of the European cities we want to emulate aren't known for their skyscrapers. Even most of the thriving small urban centers in the United States are the same. Madison, Portland... Lincoln....
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:10 pm

I will further the agreement that Aksarben Village is pretty much how urban infill should be done.

One thing that really really bothers me is how the Pinhook and Broadmoor apartments don't have front doors on the street, or even auxiliary doors. Only fire doors lead to the street. Otherwise you have to go in and out through the inner parking lot. If you want to walk to the retail area you have to go alllll the way around the building. It seems minor, but there is a lot of psychology in urban planning and that sort of thing can ruin a walking environment. Seriously, how hard is it to add a couple auxiliary doors to the street?
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby Seth » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:29 pm

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:I will further the agreement that Aksarben Village is pretty much how urban infill should be done.

One thing that really really bothers me is how the Pinhook and Broadmoor apartments don't have front doors on the street, or even auxiliary doors. Only fire doors lead to the street. Otherwise you have to go in and out through the inner parking lot. If you want to walk to the retail area you have to go alllll the way around the building. It seems minor, but there is a lot of psychology in urban planning and that sort of thing can ruin a walking environment. Seriously, how hard is it to add a couple auxiliary doors to the street?


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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby hatwate » Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:49 pm

The Broadmoor fire doors have security pads on them so the residents don't have to go all the way around the building
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:06 pm

Are they allowed to use them? Looking at Google Streetview, each door has "NOT AN ENTRANCE" written on it.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby hatwate » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:15 pm

I believe that sign is for non-residents. I see residents using them all the time.

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Postby iamjacobm » Fri Mar 06, 2015 3:43 pm

Haha those apartments are par of he reason I said mostly right infill. A/V isn't perfect but it was Omaha's first real experience with that type of modern development.

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Postby Coyote » Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:00 am

With the Parking Garage to the North, I guess this is the next best vantage point:

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:27 am

Once the get the granite cladding on and the white accents, this place will look pretty sharp. I know I criticized it pretty hard earlier, but for a simple design, it is rather elegant. A lighting scheme at night would do wonders for this place.
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Postby skinzfan23 » Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:51 am

RNcyanide wrote:Once the get the granite cladding on and the white accents, this place will look pretty sharp. I know I criticized it pretty hard earlier, but for a simple design, it is rather elegant. A lighting scheme at night would do wonders for this place.

I think it will look good for the location, but I do wish they would have done something a little more bold as far as the overall design of the building.

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Postby iamjacobm » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:32 pm

One I hadn't seen yet.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Mon Mar 16, 2015 7:26 am

Huh. I guess that little part that kicks out at the top adds some interest.
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iamjacobm wrote:One I hadn't seen yet.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby GetUrban » Mon Mar 16, 2015 9:49 pm

I was kind of liking the orange...similar to the Gordman's building.
But the understated grey and white will be fine. Not every building needs to draw a lot of attention to itself. A nice background is good to.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby iamjacobm » Mon May 04, 2015 4:25 pm

Parking garage is basically done. It is massive. It did seem like the space for the proposed building between the garage and the creek is very small.

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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby RNcyanide » Mon May 04, 2015 4:28 pm

Unless they put it directly against the parking garage or there won't be a setback on the street, I'm having trouble visualizing how exactly they will fit it on that tiny strip of land.
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Postby Brad » Mon May 04, 2015 4:35 pm

RNcyanide wrote:Unless they put it directly against the parking garage or there won't be a setback on the street, I'm having trouble visualizing how exactly they will fit it on that tiny strip of land.


The lot is 80' Deep and tapers to 50' at the north end.

The actual buildings at SoMA and Riverfront row houses are only 50' Deep. And for old school, Travers Row are only 30' deep.
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Re: Pacific Life HQ @ Aksarben Village

Postby iamjacobm » Mon May 04, 2015 4:37 pm

^^Nice.

It probably looked small to me with the random collection of equipment and the presence of the garage giving it a different scale.


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