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Should see visible demo on the building next week.
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And I'm hoping they have a webcam.
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iamjacobm wrote:Should see visible demo on the building next week.
Thanks for the info! I'm super excited about the future of this site :mrgreen:
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Thank KETV
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Construction fence is up on the south side and they are working on installing it on the east side today. We were told that they were starting with demo on the north side next week using a large crane, but no signs of a crane yet. Just three excavators and couple skidloaders so far.
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as per Stotherts facebook:

The fence is going up around the Civic Auditorium. We expect demolition to begin on the north side of the building next week. On track to be completed by the end of this year.
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Omaha_Gabe wrote:as per Stotherts facebook:

The fence is going up around the Civic Auditorium. We expect demolition to begin on the north side of the building next week. On track to be completed by the end of this year.
Wow, by the end of the year? They were saying 18 months for demo back in December 2015. I always thought that seemed too long. Maybe they were including the whole pre-bid / bid period too.
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I just hope that the land doesn't sit vacant or as a parking lot after demolition.
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skinzfan23 wrote:I just hope that the land doesn't sit vacant or as a parking lot after demolition.

You know that's exactly what is going to happen.
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MadMartin8 wrote:
skinzfan23 wrote:I just hope that the land doesn't sit vacant or as a parking lot after demolition.

You know that's exactly what is going to happen.
I'm fully expecting just that.
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Updated schedule:
27June - Begin demo of Mancuso and Music Halls
22Aug - Begin demo of auditorium
2Oct - Slab and foundation removals
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yellowcolumbia wrote:Updated schedule:
27June - Begin demo of Mancuso and Music Halls
22Aug - Begin demo of auditorium
2Oct - Slab and foundation removals
When can I park on it?
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RNcyanide wrote: When can I park on it?
You can park in the garage now. My understanding is that everything else on the lot will be removed, then graded and seeded while we wait for the development RFP.
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yellowcolumbia wrote:My understanding is that everything else on the lot will be removed, then graded and seeded while we wait for the development RFP.
They already did the RFP, that was what Tetrad won.
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At least it appears we have a schedule/timetable for the Demo completion.. It's been a long time coming..

This location should yield a significant, signature development (potentially a highrise) for downtown.. Keeping my fingers crossed...

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I'm pretty sure this ones happening although since we are west of the mighty Mo it'll probably be cut in half with the other half going downtown DSM.
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One last aerial of the Civic before Demo...

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Brad wrote:One last aerial of the Civic before Demo...

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That's going to be one big parking lot for the next 5-10 years.
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Another great photo!
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Thanks!
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Brad wrote:One last aerial of the Civic before Demo...

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Absolutely fantastic pic Brad :thumb: ...

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Thanks Lou!
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yellowcolumbia wrote:Updated schedule:
27June - Begin demo of Mancuso and Music Halls
22Aug - Begin demo of auditorium
2Oct - Slab and foundation removals
Well, they have silt fence and other erosion control measures up, but not much else to see besides a few trees and bushes. The abatement contractor has still been there working most days.
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There seems to be a lot of negativity as to whether any project will eventually be built here. Don't forget that one of the partners of this project is NuStyle Development. I have never known Todd to commit to a project and then walk away from it. How what gets constructed there resembles the original proposal remains to be seen. I would bet the 16 story office building does not happen, as there is simply not the demand for that kind of space downtown. But look at the original proposal for the Capitol District compared to what is actually being constructed. The hotel lost a few floors as has the apartment building. The underground parking is gone, and what was to be a second apartment building along I-480 is now an above ground parking garage. And I haven't seen one sign of any construction of the two smaller buildings fronting Capitol Ave. There will be construction on the Civic site. It just remains to be seen what kind of development occurs there in 2017 - 2020.
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Oh, and there has been a tiny bit of demo here. There was a smoke stack on the back of the building. It was knocked over a few weeks ago, and hauled away.
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OmahaChef wrote:There seems to be a lot of negativity as to whether any project will eventually be built here. Don't forget that one of the partners of this project is NuStyle Development. I have never known Todd to commit to a project and then walk away from it. How what gets constructed there resembles the original proposal remains to be seen. I would bet the 16 story office building does not happen, as there is simply not the demand for that kind of space downtown. But look at the original proposal for the Capitol District compared to what is actually being constructed. The hotel lost a few floors as has the apartment building. The underground parking is gone, and what was to be a second apartment building along I-480 is now an above ground parking garage. And I haven't seen one sign of any construction of the two smaller buildings fronting Capitol Ave. There will be construction on the Civic site. It just remains to be seen what kind of development occurs there in 2017 - 2020.
I tend to agree - ConAgra pulling out opened up so much extra office space that the tower here simply isn't needed.

Regarding the two smaller buildings on Capitol, I guess I figured they wouldn't start messing with those until the hotel/apartment building were nearing completion.
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PotatoeEatsFish wrote:I forgot today was my one year anniversary of joining eomaha.
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OmahaChef wrote:There seems to be a lot of negativity as to whether any project will eventually be built here. Don't forget that one of the partners of this project is NuStyle Development. I have never known Todd to commit to a project and then walk away from it. How what gets constructed there resembles the original proposal remains to be seen. I would bet the 16 story office building does not happen, as there is simply not the demand for that kind of space downtown. But look at the original proposal for the Capitol District compared to what is actually being constructed. The hotel lost a few floors as has the apartment building. The underground parking is gone, and what was to be a second apartment building along I-480 is now an above ground parking garage. And I haven't seen one sign of any construction of the two smaller buildings fronting Capitol Ave. There will be construction on the Civic site. It just remains to be seen what kind of development occurs there in 2017 - 2020.
I tend to agree - ConAgra pulling out opened up so much extra office space that the tower here simply isn't needed.

Regarding the two smaller buildings on Capitol, I guess I figured they wouldn't start messing with those until the hotel/apartment building were nearing completion.

You wonder with all the younger people wanting to live downtown, if it's going to take a generation for a serious increase of demand for downtown office space.
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NEDodger wrote:
OmahaChef wrote:There seems to be a lot of negativity as to whether any project will eventually be built here. Don't forget that one of the partners of this project is NuStyle Development. I have never known Todd to commit to a project and then walk away from it. How what gets constructed there resembles the original proposal remains to be seen. I would bet the 16 story office building does not happen, as there is simply not the demand for that kind of space downtown. But look at the original proposal for the Capitol District compared to what is actually being constructed. The hotel lost a few floors as has the apartment building. The underground parking is gone, and what was to be a second apartment building along I-480 is now an above ground parking garage. And I haven't seen one sign of any construction of the two smaller buildings fronting Capitol Ave. There will be construction on the Civic site. It just remains to be seen what kind of development occurs there in 2017 - 2020.
I tend to agree - ConAgra pulling out opened up so much extra office space that the tower here simply isn't needed.
Sounds logical, until you think about what kind of company would actually want to rent the type of space the vacated ConAgra buildings contain. There just aren't that many companies looking for that type of space any longer.....which is executive suite-style floor to ceiling individual offices comprising most of the building. Most companies are now looking for more open-office collaborative space. Extensive remodeling, if not a major gut-job would be required in most cases. It would be less hassle for a company to move into new space already configured for open plan office space. Now if they were to go ahead and pre-gut the buildings and prepare them for open office space before leasing, the buildings would have more of an effect on the market for such space.
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A bit of visible progress this morning.
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Sweet, thanks for the update!
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Pretty sure that mist machine is for asbestos. Could be a slow demo if they have to worry about that the whole time.
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iamjacobm wrote:Pretty sure that mist machine is for asbestos. Could be a slow demo if they have to worry about that the whole time.
Its not usually followed very strictly, but technically any dust leaving your property is considered pollution, even if its "clean" dirt. That's why you see the big companies putting down water while they are grading.
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Anyone know what they are doing with all the facde brick? I'd like to obtain a few.
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mr. omaha wrote:Anyone know what they are doing with all the facde brick? I'd like to obtain a few.
The stuff they have taken down so far has been pulverized, becoming an operating surface for their excavators. Not sure if they will be more careful as they continue. I'll let you know if they start stockpiling it separately.

I'm pretty sure the misting fan is just for dust control.

Starting on the north wall of the Mancuso Hall this morning.
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I know HDR is involved with planning a new high-rise, mixed-use tower as of recently, so I wonder if this is the intended site?
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What's the over/under on this thing looking anything like the proposal?
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NovakOmaha wrote:What's the over/under on this thing looking anything like the proposal?
I wouldn't hold my breath on any of these proposals/planned projects. I'm not even sure what HDR is planning given the availability of the ConAgra campus - but they're definitely working on something (I'm sure someone here knows)
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NovakOmaha wrote:What's the over/under on this thing looking anything like the proposal?
I wouldn't hold my breath on any of these proposals/planned projects. I'm not even sure what HDR is planning given the availability of the ConAgra campus - but they're definitely working on something (I'm sure someone here knows)
I think what the past has taught us, especially in lieu of the Wallstreet Tower fiasco from years back and more recently the crapfest that became HDR pulling the plug on downtown, is to NOT get full on PUFFY :fruit: excited over anything "proposed"..

Until I see earth move and ultimately a tower crane (or 2) in the air, I just note the "proposal" in my mind, hope it comes to fruition, and move along with zero expectation that it actually will become reality...

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