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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon Oct 24, 2016 10:27 pm

Catherine33 wrote:I think that the civic site will partially be used to relocate the Downtown library. The city really wants a new library and I know that many developers really covet the site of the existing library. I do not think either location will lay dormant. I do not thing a high rise at the civic location is being looked at anymore. The existing library site is the most coveted space in downtown Omaha and one of the reasons the mayor wants to free up that spot. Whether Kiewit or Mutual or whoever, they all love that site because you are front and center for every picture/video of Omaha that goes out to the world. If that site becomes available you should expect big things to take place at that location.


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Postby almighty_tuna » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:14 pm

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Catherine33 wrote:I think that the civic site will partially be used to relocate the Downtown library. The city really wants a new library and I know that many developers really covet the site of the existing library. I do not think either location will lay dormant. I do not thing a high rise at the civic location is being looked at anymore. The existing library site is the most coveted space in downtown Omaha and one of the reasons the mayor wants to free up that spot. Whether Kiewit or Mutual or whoever, they all love that site because you are front and center for every picture/video of Omaha that goes out to the world. If that site becomes available you should expect big things to take place at that location.


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x3. My $.02, library goes here, rest of block becomes mixed use. current library site=signature development.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue Oct 25, 2016 7:30 pm

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Catherine33 wrote:I think that the civic site will partially be used to relocate the Downtown library. The city really wants a new library and I know that many developers really covet the site of the existing library. I do not think either location will lay dormant. I do not thing a high rise at the civic location is being looked at anymore. The existing library site is the most coveted space in downtown Omaha and one of the reasons the mayor wants to free up that spot. Whether Kiewit or Mutual or whoever, they all love that site because you are front and center for every picture/video of Omaha that goes out to the world. If that site becomes available you should expect big things to take place at that location.


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x3. My $.02, library goes here, rest of block becomes mixed use. current library site=signature development.


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Tue Oct 25, 2016 8:26 pm

As long as they duplicate Do Space. The group that developed/supports Do Space hit the nail on the head as to what a modern library should be.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby yellowcolumbia » Tue Oct 25, 2016 9:07 pm

Exterior is gone, just a bit of the structure left.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:26 am

How do they get the work done so fast? Do they just have guys up there with torches and plasma cutters chopping up the beams, which are then immediately loaded onto trailers to be hauled away? That was a pretty big pile of steel last week.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby OmahaOmaha » Wed Oct 26, 2016 12:33 pm

Lets send these guys over to Crossroads Mall when they're done.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby nebugeater » Wed Oct 26, 2016 2:07 pm

yellowcolumbia wrote:Exterior is gone, just a bit of the structure left.

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Probably because it looks like there were able to just pick it up and shake it upside down!

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:How do they get the work done so fast? Do they just have guys up there with torches and plasma cutters chopping up the beams, which are then immediately loaded onto trailers to be hauled away? That was a pretty big pile of steel last week.
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Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Wed Oct 26, 2016 3:58 pm

nebugeater wrote:Probably because it looks like there were able to just pick it up and shake it upside down!


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

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nebugeater wrote:Probably because it looks like there were able to just pick it up and shake it upside down!


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby thenewguy » Wed Oct 26, 2016 8:19 pm

From channel 6...

"In its place a development company will launch a $300 million project that will include a large tower, office space, retail space, and a civic component like a library."
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby iamjacobm » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:29 pm

thenewguy wrote:From channel 6...

"In its place a development company will launch a $300 million project that will include a large tower, office space, retail space, and a civic component like a library."


Probably from the info from when the project was announced.

I still really think some height will be involved here. It might not meet everyone's standard for "highrise" but I think the economies of scale here are going to demand going above 10 floors on a portion of the land. We will see in due time I suppose.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Wed Oct 26, 2016 9:50 pm

The Cap District just added a whole lot of apartments downtown. Office space is aplenty. I'd be prepared to watch the weeds grow on this one. I'm sure the city will be tossin' and turnin' over it. You know Stothert wants the library moved there badly, for which I don't blame her. You'd be a darn fool to pass up having your HQ at the head of Central Park Mall and your company name beaming on every Omaha "Holiday Lights" postcard, refrigerator magnet, etc.

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:08 pm

We will see.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby yellowcolumbia » Wed Oct 26, 2016 10:30 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:How do they get the work done so fast? Do they just have guys up there with torches and plasma cutters chopping up the beams, which are then immediately loaded onto trailers to be hauled away? That was a pretty big pile of steel last week.

The 4-5 guys in their excavators move their machines really really well. One was basically pulling everything down and passing the steel to guy behind him. He would either just pull the trusses apart at the connections, or use a set of massive jaws to cut through the steel. The others have been piling all the debris and loading up trucks. Very little torch work other than when they pulled the equipment out like the boilers.

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Postby MadMartin8 » Thu Oct 27, 2016 5:03 am

choke wrote:The Cap District just added a whole lot of apartments downtown. Office space is aplenty. I'd be prepared to watch the weeds grow on this one. I'm sure the city will be tossin' and turnin' over it. You know Stothert wants the library moved there badly, for which I don't blame her. You'd be a darn fool to pass up having your HQ at the head of Central Park Mall and your company name beaming on every Omaha "Holiday Lights" postcard, refrigerator magnet, etc.


Agreed. This site will sit empty for a long while, probably even longer than Capitol did.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MadJack » Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:52 pm

In addition to the downtown library, I'm hearing that both the Omaha Children's Museum and Downtown YMCA are thinking about moving to the new Civic Auditorium/Tetrad site. That could be a real jump start for that development. Also, Catherine is right -- there is serious interest in putting a corporate headquarters building on the current site of the downtown library. If that happens, the Nebraska State Office building may be demolished in order to build a parking garage supporting the new office building.

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Postby RNcyanide » Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:13 pm

I bet you they could just gut that SOB and make it into a parking structure as is!
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Postby MTO » Thu Oct 27, 2016 6:41 pm

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Postby nativeomahan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:02 pm

yellowcolumbia wrote:
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:How do they get the work done so fast? Do they just have guys up there with torches and plasma cutters chopping up the beams, which are then immediately loaded onto trailers to be hauled away? That was a pretty big pile of steel last week.

The 4-5 guys in their excavators move their machines really really well. One was basically pulling everything down and passing the steel to guy behind him. He would either just pull the trusses apart at the connections, or use a set of massive jaws to cut through the steel. The others have been piling all the debris and loading up trucks. Very little torch work other than when they pulled the equipment out like the boilers.


This was a huge building. Where did all of the debris get sent?

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Postby nativeomahan » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:05 pm

MadJack wrote:In addition to the downtown library, I'm hearing that both the Omaha Children's Museum and Downtown YMCA are thinking about moving to the new Civic Auditorium/Tetrad site. That could be a real jump start for that development. Also, Catherine is right -- there is serious interest in putting a corporate headquarters building on the current site of the downtown library. If that happens, the Nebraska State Office building may be demolished in order to build a parking garage supporting the new office building.


Well, not saying that would be a bad idea, but you would have to build a new State Office Building first, before the existing building could be removed. Maybe where HDR was going to go? Or the Wall Street block?

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Postby PotatoeEatsFish » Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:11 pm

nativeomahan wrote:
MadJack wrote:In addition to the downtown library, I'm hearing that both the Omaha Children's Museum and Downtown YMCA are thinking about moving to the new Civic Auditorium/Tetrad site. That could be a real jump start for that development. Also, Catherine is right -- there is serious interest in putting a corporate headquarters building on the current site of the downtown library. If that happens, the Nebraska State Office building may be demolished in order to build a parking garage supporting the new office building.


Well, not saying that would be a bad idea, but you would have to build a new State Office Building first, before the existing building could be removed. Maybe where HDR was going to go? Or the Wall Street block?

I think a new state office building would fit in well on the HDR site. The old UP site would be an odd place to build the office which would at the max be 7 stories.
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Postby bmt » Sat Oct 29, 2016 9:46 am

Why would the state office need their own new building? Their building now is 2 or 3 stories? And they used to share it with kiewit. Wouldn't it be more practical to just move to some currently available office space?

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Postby PotatoeEatsFish » Sat Oct 29, 2016 12:55 pm

bmt wrote:Why would the state office need their own new building? Their building now is 2 or 3 stories? And they used to share it with kiewit. Wouldn't it be more practical to just move to some currently available office space?

Yeah, building a new building would be a waste. They could just move into Landmark for a quarter of the price.
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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sun Oct 30, 2016 5:38 pm

Wowzers.. pretty much completely gone..

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Postby jag42 » Sun Oct 30, 2016 7:15 pm

Looks like just a bit of the arena floor is left...and the convention space under it.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MadJack » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:37 am

nativeomahan wrote:
MadJack wrote:In addition to the downtown library, I'm hearing that both the Omaha Children's Museum and Downtown YMCA are thinking about moving to the new Civic Auditorium/Tetrad site. That could be a real jump start for that development. Also, Catherine is right -- there is serious interest in putting a corporate headquarters building on the current site of the downtown library. If that happens, the Nebraska State Office building may be demolished in order to build a parking garage supporting the new office building.


Well, not saying that would be a bad idea, but you would have to build a new State Office Building first, before the existing building could be removed. Maybe where HDR was going to go? Or the Wall Street block?


If it happens, the state of Nebraska would most likely not construct a new building; they would simply lease space in existing downtown buildings.

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Postby MadJack » Mon Oct 31, 2016 7:39 am

MadJack wrote:
nativeomahan wrote:
MadJack wrote:In addition to the downtown library, I'm hearing that both the Omaha Children's Museum and Downtown YMCA are thinking about moving to the new Civic Auditorium/Tetrad site. That could be a real jump start for that development. Also, Catherine is right -- there is serious interest in putting a corporate headquarters building on the current site of the downtown library. If that happens, the Nebraska State Office building may be demolished in order to build a parking garage supporting the new office building.


Well, not saying that would be a bad idea, but you would have to build a new State Office Building first, before the existing building could be removed. Maybe where HDR was going to go? Or the Wall Street block?


If it happens, the state of Nebraska would most likely not construct a new building; they would simply lease space in existing downtown buildings.


Oh, and I should have mentioned, the state was looking at leasing space in Central Park Plaza twin towers if all of this were to happen.

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Postby Imissomaha » Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:50 pm

Glad for the progress, but it's kind of sad to see the Civic gone. I remember my first circus in 1961 , Harlem Globe Trotters, Omaha KC Kings basketball and on an on. Oh well.

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Imissomaha wrote:Glad for the progress, but it's kind of sad to see the Civic gone. I remember my first circus in 1961 , Harlem Globe Trotters, Omaha KC Kings basketball and on an on. Oh well.


It was kinda sad when Korver was in town for the game and he said that he didn't know that is was being torn down. He had 4 great years in that building and wasn't expecting to see it as rubble.

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Postby nativeomahan » Tue Nov 01, 2016 7:16 pm

Imissomaha wrote:Glad for the progress, but it's kind of sad to see the Civic gone. I remember my first circus in 1961 , Harlem Globe Trotters, Omaha KC Kings basketball and on an on. Oh well.



Absolutely. I share many of your same memories, plus a heck of a lot of concerts.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Wed Nov 02, 2016 6:34 pm

Well, according to the mayor, the highrise has been scrapped from the plans; surprise, surprise. Now, Tetrad is going to have a more civic component for the site which I am guessing will be the library. CONAgra is gone, West Corp. is on the way out, the UP site is barren, the riverfront is full of lead, Crossroads is a pipe dream and the Holland Center isn't expanding although it couldn't afford to give up the parking lot to HDR. Merry Christmas!


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby daveoma » Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:03 am

I really hope the state office building moves there so it can be bulldozed and replaced with something else.

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Postby choke » Thu Nov 03, 2016 7:09 am

Stothert did emphasize a strong civic component.

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Postby MTO » Thu Nov 03, 2016 10:02 am

daveoma wrote:I really hope the state office building moves there so it can be bulldozed and replaced with something else.

For what a five story building.
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Postby Catherine33 » Thu Nov 03, 2016 11:15 am

Kiewit Tower at current library site.

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:34 pm

Catherine33 wrote:Kiewit Tower at current library site.


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Five floors is a tower in this city.
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