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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby daveoma » Fri Nov 11, 2016 12:21 am

Catherine33 wrote:And I will throw in one more I think you will like Omaha Cowboy... Lot B Condo Tower, nobody cares anymore what MECA thinks or wants.

I really hope this is true and I'm really glad that nobody cares about MECA :clap:

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Postby NEDodger » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:25 am

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.


Haha, THANK YOU! With all due respect, I was starting to think I was the only sane one on here. Kiewit and Mutual....sharing the same HQ building? Haha....whaaaaat?!?

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby NEDodger » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:28 am

buildomaha wrote:What are we meaning by high rise?... Is this supposed to be a FNB competitor or another UP or WH building... Because if its not something great, it will be a HUGE waste of space, time, and money.


In this instance, "high rise" means a b.s. story created for attention / to get everyone up in a frenzy.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MadMartin8 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:27 am

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.


So...we're not supposed to do that? I see... :(
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Garrett » Fri Nov 11, 2016 8:28 am

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.

I'm picturing myself reading each of Catherine's posts and doing a line a coke. They each just make me so excited!
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Taco » Fri Nov 11, 2016 9:17 am

Printing off Catherine's posts, rolling them up and smoking them is enough to get me high!

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 2:09 pm

Friends, lets give Catherine33 a break, okay? I understand everyone's skepticism..

But she obviously has some Intel to share and I, for one, am interested in hearing more of it; and enjoy her periodic updates..

And for the record, early on after the HDR/downtown sh!t storm, she was dead on accurate about HDR locating at Ak Village..

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Catherine33 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:23 pm

Bath Salts no way... maybe an occasional muscle relaxer though!

These deals are done long before the greater public hears about them. Now you can choose to believe me or not and I will be more clear this time.
The library is moving to the Civic site. There will be a tower at the current library site. There will be other very exciting things happening downtown.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Catherine33 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:27 pm

Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MadMartin8 » Fri Nov 11, 2016 4:55 pm

Catherine33 wrote:Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.



...in 2055.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby thenewguy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 5:02 pm

I would like to believe Catherine....but i will wait and see i suppose. Those are all very ambitious...
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

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Even the Magic 8-Ball could have picked HDR to Ak-Sar-Ben. But even though I am new here myself, I agree that you should treat others how you would want to be treated.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:09 pm

Catherine33 wrote:Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.


If this happens and you hit the trifecta Catherine33, I'll be convinced we have the modern day Nostradamus..

Right here in the Big O :thumb: ...

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Fri Nov 11, 2016 6:12 pm

choke wrote:Even the Magic 8-Ball could have picked HDR to Ak-Sar-Ben. But even though I am new here myself, I agree that you should treat others how you would want to be treated.


That is very funny and very creative choke, lol...

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Garrett » Sat Nov 12, 2016 7:58 am

Catherine33 wrote:Bath Salts no way... maybe an occasional muscle relaxer though!

These deals are done long before the greater public hears about them. Now you can choose to believe me or not and I will be more clear this time.
The library is moving to the Civic site. There will be a tower at the current library site. There will be other very exciting things happening downtown.


Hey I mean you've given me no reason to disbelieve you yet. You haven't pulled a Europeane Village yet.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Mystikbrian » Mon Nov 14, 2016 3:33 pm

Can anyone confirm the contract between the city and tetrad for the new development? I'm getting conflicting information.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby jag42 » Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:33 pm

Got some authentic Omaha Civic Auditorium bricks/rubble today. I was talking to one of the guys on the demolition crew today and he said they are thinking they will be there through February cleaning up.


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby NEDodger » Tue Nov 15, 2016 12:33 am

Which, if their super-quick demo is any indication, means they'll have it done by early January...!

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Wall Street 2.0
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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Dec 14, 2016 12:54 pm

MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0
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Put a quarter in the Debbie Downer jar.
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Postby MTO » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:02 pm

That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.
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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Dec 14, 2016 2:07 pm

MTO wrote:That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.


2 quarters then.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MTO » Wed Dec 14, 2016 3:25 pm

RNcyanide wrote:
MTO wrote:That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.


2 quarters then.


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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Wed Dec 14, 2016 4:09 pm

MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0
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I heard they are gonna rebuild the Civic and it will be mostly concrete.

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Wed Dec 14, 2016 6:36 pm

choke wrote:
MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0
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I heard they are gonna rebuild the Civic and it will be mostly concrete.


Here's the latest rendering from Tetrad:
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Mon Dec 26, 2016 7:28 am

If the city is going to pay to tear down the structure then why not wait to sell the land until after it's down? Tetrad doesn't even have a commitment. What a disaster.

Per Roseann Moring / World-Herald staff writer

Plans for Civic Auditorium site have changed, mayor says; tower proposal nixed, and more public space eyed


While nothing has been decided, Stothert said there could be a park or other green space on the Civic land


http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/plans-for-civic-auditorium-site-have-changed-mayor-says-tower/article_14c7430d-c394-5223-9e9c-dc360d5d47b6.html

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby GetUrban » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:01 am

choke wrote:If the city is going to pay to tear down the structure then why not wait to sell the land until after it's down? Tetrad doesn't even have a commitment. What a disaster.

Per Roseann Moring / World-Herald staff writer

Plans for Civic Auditorium site have changed, mayor says; tower proposal nixed, and more public space eyed


While nothing has been decided, Stothert said there could be a park or other green space on the Civic land


http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/plans-for-civic-auditorium-site-have-changed-mayor-says-tower/article_14c7430d-c394-5223-9e9c-dc360d5d47b6.html


More parks or green space downtown? ....exactly what we don't need more of downtown. We already have a public library overlooking green space. :roll: The plans are sketchy at this point, but this doesn't sound encouraging.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Tornado » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:17 am

How about a large surface parking lot? I could see that being really successfully in this location. Lol......

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Postby Tornado » Mon Dec 26, 2016 10:31 am

I Remember Tetrad CEO Zach Wiegert stating he hopes the project will actually grow larger in time and that they will build a 40 story tower if the demand is there. Here we are a few years later looking right down the barrel of a new YMCA building and some landscaped green space. Crazy.....
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby GetUrban » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:00 am

It's laughable when Stothert says the Civic site has great access to parking and I-480 (as compared to what other downtown sites?) What part of downtown does not also already have this? There are parking garages all over the place, and several ways to access downtown streets from I-480.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby Tornado » Mon Dec 26, 2016 11:16 am

Exactly

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:33 pm

Not having a tower of some kind at this site is a waste of space. If one cannot be built now, then let it lay dormant until it can. Greenspace and small buildings are fine near the riverfront, not here.
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Postby HskrFanMike » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:43 pm

Green space makes for a fine interim solution while we wait for a more appropriate development.

That being said, I think we need to put a moratorium on any further demolition downtown until the Wall Street/Lanoha and Civic sites are developed. The Gavilon project would have been a much better fit on the Wall Street/Lanoha site, and would have retained the old W-H park a little longer.
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby buildomaha » Mon Dec 26, 2016 1:47 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:Not having a tower of some kind at this site is a waste of space. If one cannot be built now, then let it lay dormant until it can. Greenspace and small buildings are fine near the riverfront, not here.


This is 100% true!!!

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby daveoma » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:31 pm

I think this is a huge let down. I don't understand why the mayor gives no explanation for why the original plans fell through. The residents of the city paid for the demolition with the understanding that the structure would be replaced with something better. Plans for a wonderful development have been replaced with speculation. I really wish the mayor would be a leader and use her influence to bring these priests to fruition. If Tetrad is backing out then the city should get someone else to develop the land.

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Postby choke » Mon Dec 26, 2016 2:59 pm

daveoma wrote:I think this is a huge let down. I don't understand why the mayor gives no explanation for why the original plans fell through. The residents of the city paid for the demolition with the understanding that the structure would be replaced with something better. Plans for a wonderful development have been replaced with speculation. I really wish the mayor would be a leader and use her influence to bring these priests to fruition. If Tetrad is backing out then the city should get someone else to develop the land.


Does the city still own the land? Or did the city sell it to Tetrad and pay for the demolition?

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Postby Coyote » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:10 pm

choke wrote:Does the city still own the land? Or did the city sell it to Tetrad and pay for the demolition?


IIRC - The city owns the property. A committee of city officials chose Tetrad Property Group to redevelop the site. Tetrad will partner with NuStyle Development Corp., which plans to work with architecture and engineering firm HDR Inc. and with Kiewit Building Group.

This may not be Tetrad's call, but NuStyle...
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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby MTO » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:53 pm

Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.
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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:12 pm

MTO wrote:Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.


I agree with you (surprise suprise, lol)..

I also think it's easy to express dissapoinment (as many already have).. but let me ask, is this actually "news" to any of us? I Think we've pretty much already come to the conclusion (at least I had) that the Tetrad tower proposal had been nixed etc etc..

What I will do is wait and see. This may turn out to be a satisfying and happy development all around..

I'm not dissapointed at all. Just very, VERY curious about how this and several other "related" developments will shake out. There could be a domino effect here..

I'm going to let "positive anticipation" not "gloom and doom" rule the roost :thumb: ...

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Re: Tetrad Development (Civic Auditorium)

Postby choke » Mon Dec 26, 2016 4:57 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote:
MTO wrote:Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.


I agree with you (surprise suprise, lol)..

I also think it's easy to express dissapoinment (as many already have).. but let me ask, is this actually "news" to any of us? I Think we've pretty much already come to the conclusion (at least I had) that the Tetrad tower proposal had been nixed etc etc..

What I will do is wait and see. This may turn out to be a satisfying and happy development all around..

I'm not dissapointed at all. Just very, VERY curious about how this and several other "related" developments will shake out. There could be a domino effect here..

I'm going to let "positive anticipation" not "gloom and doom" rule the roost :thumb: ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


I think the disappointment here is that it sounds like the issue is being forced. I can see the library moving but no, not the Y or the Children's Museum. Nor do we need anymore green space downtown. So, if the library can't be moved then let the city just hold on to the land until something that makes sense can be built there. heck, HDR could of been built there. They got an extension to their current lease. What a bunch of |expletive|. I'm going with doom and gloom.


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