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Catherine33 wrote:And I will throw in one more I think you will like Omaha Cowboy... Lot B Condo Tower, nobody cares anymore what MECA thinks or wants.

I really hope this is true and I'm really glad that nobody cares about MECA

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.

Haha, THANK YOU! With all due respect, I was starting to think I was the only sane one on here. Kiewit and Mutual....sharing the same HQ building? Haha....whaaaaat?!?

buildomaha wrote:What are we meaning by high rise?... Is this supposed to be a FNB competitor or another UP or WH building... Because if its not something great, it will be a HUGE waste of space, time, and money.

In this instance, "high rise" means a b.s. story created for attention / to get everyone up in a frenzy.

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.

So...we're not supposed to do that? I see...

Linkin5 wrote:I'm picturing Catherine feverishly posting while smoking bath salts.

I'm picturing myself reading each of Catherine's posts and doing a line a coke. They each just make me so excited!

Printing off Catherine's posts, rolling them up and smoking them is enough to get me high!

Friends, lets give Catherine33 a break, okay? I understand everyone's skepticism..

But she obviously has some Intel to share and I, for one, am interested in hearing more of it; and enjoy her periodic updates..

And for the record, early on after the HDR/downtown sh!t storm, she was dead on accurate about HDR locating at Ak Village..

Thanks! ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Bath Salts no way... maybe an occasional muscle relaxer though!

These deals are done long before the greater public hears about them. Now you can choose to believe me or not and I will be more clear this time.
The library is moving to the Civic site. There will be a tower at the current library site. There will be other very exciting things happening downtown.

Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.

Catherine33 wrote:Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.

...in 2055.

I would like to believe Catherine....but i will wait and see i suppose. Those are all very ambitious...

Even the Magic 8-Ball could have picked HDR to Ak-Sar-Ben. But even though I am new here myself, I agree that you should treat others how you would want to be treated.

Catherine33 wrote:Cowboy, one more just for you again... light rail happening. Med Center, Zoo, Capitol District.

If this happens and you hit the trifecta Catherine33, I'll be convinced we have the modern day Nostradamus..

Right here in the Big O ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

choke wrote:Even the Magic 8-Ball could have picked HDR to Ak-Sar-Ben. But even though I am new here myself, I agree that you should treat others how you would want to be treated.

That is very funny and very creative choke, lol...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Catherine33 wrote:Bath Salts no way... maybe an occasional muscle relaxer though!

These deals are done long before the greater public hears about them. Now you can choose to believe me or not and I will be more clear this time.
The library is moving to the Civic site. There will be a tower at the current library site. There will be other very exciting things happening downtown.

Hey I mean you've given me no reason to disbelieve you yet. You haven't pulled a Europeane Village yet.

Can anyone confirm the contract between the city and tetrad for the new development? I'm getting conflicting information.

Got some authentic Omaha Civic Auditorium bricks/rubble today. I was talking to one of the guys on the demolition crew today and he said they are thinking they will be there through February cleaning up.


IMG_20161114_170958051 by Jon, on Flickr

Which, if their super-quick demo is any indication, means they'll have it done by early January...!

Wall Street 2.0

MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0

Put a quarter in the Debbie Downer jar.

That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.

MTO wrote:That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.

2 quarters then.

RNcyanide wrote:

MTO wrote:That's down right jovial compared to what I was originally going to say.

2 quarters then.

MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0

I heard they are gonna rebuild the Civic and it will be mostly concrete.

choke wrote:

MTO wrote:Wall Street 2.0

I heard they are gonna rebuild the Civic and it will be mostly concrete.

Here's the latest rendering from Tetrad:

If the city is going to pay to tear down the structure then why not wait to sell the land until after it's down? Tetrad doesn't even have a commitment. What a disaster.

Per Roseann Moring / World-Herald staff writer

Plans for Civic Auditorium site have changed, mayor says; tower proposal nixed, and more public space eyed

While nothing has been decided, Stothert said there could be a park or other green space on the Civic land

http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/plans-f ... d47b6.html

choke wrote:If the city is going to pay to tear down the structure then why not wait to sell the land until after it's down? Tetrad doesn't even have a commitment. What a disaster.

Per Roseann Moring / World-Herald staff writer

Plans for Civic Auditorium site have changed, mayor says; tower proposal nixed, and more public space eyed

While nothing has been decided, Stothert said there could be a park or other green space on the Civic land

http://www.omaha.com/news/metro/plans-f ... d47b6.html

More parks or green space downtown? ....exactly what we don't need more of downtown. We already have a public library overlooking green space. The plans are sketchy at this point, but this doesn't sound encouraging.

How about a large surface parking lot? I could see that being really successfully in this location. Lol......

I Remember Tetrad CEO Zach Wiegert stating he hopes the project will actually grow larger in time and that they will build a 40 story tower if the demand is there. Here we are a few years later looking right down the barrel of a new YMCA building and some landscaped green space. Crazy.....

It's laughable when Stothert says the Civic site has great access to parking and I-480 (as compared to what other downtown sites?) What part of downtown does not also already have this? There are parking garages all over the place, and several ways to access downtown streets from I-480.

Exactly

Not having a tower of some kind at this site is a waste of space. If one cannot be built now, then let it lay dormant until it can. Greenspace and small buildings are fine near the riverfront, not here.

Green space makes for a fine interim solution while we wait for a more appropriate development.

That being said, I think we need to put a moratorium on any further demolition downtown until the Wall Street/Lanoha and Civic sites are developed. The Gavilon project would have been a much better fit on the Wall Street/Lanoha site, and would have retained the old W-H park a little longer.

MadMartin8 wrote:Not having a tower of some kind at this site is a waste of space. If one cannot be built now, then let it lay dormant until it can. Greenspace and small buildings are fine near the riverfront, not here.

This is 100% true!!!

I think this is a huge let down. I don't understand why the mayor gives no explanation for why the original plans fell through. The residents of the city paid for the demolition with the understanding that the structure would be replaced with something better. Plans for a wonderful development have been replaced with speculation. I really wish the mayor would be a leader and use her influence to bring these priests to fruition. If Tetrad is backing out then the city should get someone else to develop the land.

daveoma wrote:I think this is a huge let down. I don't understand why the mayor gives no explanation for why the original plans fell through. The residents of the city paid for the demolition with the understanding that the structure would be replaced with something better. Plans for a wonderful development have been replaced with speculation. I really wish the mayor would be a leader and use her influence to bring these priests to fruition. If Tetrad is backing out then the city should get someone else to develop the land.

Does the city still own the land? Or did the city sell it to Tetrad and pay for the demolition?

choke wrote:Does the city still own the land? Or did the city sell it to Tetrad and pay for the demolition?

IIRC - The city owns the property. A committee of city officials chose Tetrad Property Group to redevelop the site. Tetrad will partner with NuStyle Development Corp., which plans to work with architecture and engineering firm HDR Inc. and with Kiewit Building Group.

This may not be Tetrad's call, but NuStyle...

Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.

MTO wrote:Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.

I agree with you (surprise suprise, lol)..

I also think it's easy to express dissapoinment (as many already have).. but let me ask, is this actually "news" to any of us? I Think we've pretty much already come to the conclusion (at least I had) that the Tetrad tower proposal had been nixed etc etc..

What I will do is wait and see. This may turn out to be a satisfying and happy development all around..

I'm not dissapointed at all. Just very, VERY curious about how this and several other "related" developments will shake out. There could be a domino effect here..

I'm going to let "positive anticipation" not "gloom and doom" rule the roost ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

Omaha Cowboy wrote:

MTO wrote:Time for a clean slate and a new RFP. Not that I expect a high rise but when they say a larger pedestrian component I hear less sq-ft overall. There definitely needs to be a pramanad of sorts but it should also be dense.

I agree with you (surprise suprise, lol)..

I also think it's easy to express dissapoinment (as many already have).. but let me ask, is this actually "news" to any of us? I Think we've pretty much already come to the conclusion (at least I had) that the Tetrad tower proposal had been nixed etc etc..

What I will do is wait and see. This may turn out to be a satisfying and happy development all around..

I'm not dissapointed at all. Just very, VERY curious about how this and several other "related" developments will shake out. There could be a domino effect here..

I'm going to let "positive anticipation" not "gloom and doom" rule the roost ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace

I think the disappointment here is that it sounds like the issue is being forced. I can see the library moving but no, not the Y or the Children's Museum. Nor do we need anymore green space downtown. So, if the library can't be moved then let the city just hold on to the land until something that makes sense can be built there. heck, HDR could of been built there. They got an extension to their current lease. What a bunch of |expletive|. I'm going with doom and gloom.