Re: Official: North Downtown Discussion
Posted: Sun Jun 26, 2016 4:22 pm
They should really slow down on that building, it's going up way too fast…
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You're hilarious!EricHaley wrote:They should really slow down on that building, it's going up way too fast…
A long-vacant building across the street from the Siena-Francis House homeless shelter is about to undergo a $2 million makeover into a home for small businesses.
The former Safety Service truck repair shop at 1605 Nicholas St. has sat empty for years, remaining solid but mainly providing shade for people hanging out near the shelter.
But now, as north downtown development momentum continues, the owner thinks the time is right to put it back to work. Omaha attorney Duane Dowd and investment partners from Omaha and Denver propose to renovate the nondescript but sturdy old garage and create spaces for seven businesses. They hope to have what they’re calling The Hub open by fall.
They’re seeking $300,000 in tax-increment financing to help pay for the project. The Omaha Planning Board voted earlier this month to recommend that the City Council approve the TIF request.
The developers considered knocking down the building and erecting housing, but decided against it, said Adam Watson, who is working with Dowd on The Hub.
I will send you an application if you like...MTO wrote:And 41 SF for custodial arts.
Reminds me of the Omar Baking Company building off of Cuming Street. The building is split up between small businesses and a church.Coyote wrote:I will send you an application if you like...MTO wrote:And 41 SF for custodial arts.
Somebody's gotta get that joke.. Half Baked...Coyote wrote:I will send you an application if you like...MTO wrote:And 41 SF for custodial arts.
Just heard a rumor that these two buildings to the north have been bought and will be rehabilitated!Coyote wrote:Just found out in a meeting today that Creighton has no need for the two buildings next to the Happy Bar and while not going up for sale, they would entertain a bid. They do not have plans on crossing 16th St.
OmahaJaysCU wrote:My understanding was this does not include the building Happy Bar is in. Still amazing news. Creighton selling a historic building for renovation is a monster victory. More to come?
Except for the buildings they have already demo'd.Greg S wrote:OmahaJaysCU wrote:My understanding was this does not include the building Happy Bar is in. Still amazing news. Creighton selling a historic building for renovation is a monster victory. More to come?
I agree. I'd love to see more of these buildings get renovated and used.
Creighton's expansion east has been so good for Omaha.
Greg
Here is the current view:Plans are churning for a new roadway between downtown and the Omaha riverfront.
On Tuesday afternoon, the Omaha City Council unanimously approved a study to look at ways to extend Capitol Avenue to the riverfront.
An aquarium and events barge moored at Lewis & Clark Landing are among the flashier suggestions. Other potential plans include trails, restaurants and a major new festival coordinated between Omaha and Council Bluffs.
Concepts are required to include sidewalks on both sides of the extension to accommodate pedestrians as well as drivers. The plans must also consider bridge configurations needed to cross CenturyLink Center parking areas and nearby railroad tracks. Realignments of Capitol Avenue and Eighth Street will be included as well, with a note to keep a connection between the streets to the south.
Depends on how it's designed. In general, from a pscyhological standpoint, something like this is more inviting to cross...Linkin5 wrote:I am still beyond confused how making 480 a street level boulevard is better, you are making an even bigger barrier than an elevated road.
It's a big, grey, shady edifice. There needs to be some kind of urban pride project that decreases the psychological perception of 480 being a barrier. Add street-level and/or pylon art, or LED lighting that under the bridge that casts light down and make regular light shows out of it (I'm thinking of doing this over 10th and the area to the east, and maybe around 13th and 19th). Similar to how Omaha Fashion Week was holding shows under the 10th Street Bridge, do the same under the bridge east of 10th Street. There's a lot you can do to make a concrete barrier more permeable for a comparatively modest cost of destroying it and building something new. The challenge with the LED feature would be keeping the damn things operational, as evidenced by the difficulties of the lights on the BKPB.nebraska wrote:If the city wants to make the Riverfront and North Downtown happen, they need to really consider making I480 into a street-level boulevard.
Except double the width, remove the stop lights, and the vehicles are traveling at 60MPH.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:something like this is more inviting to cross...
Get rid if it completely. I-480 between US-75 and the river is completely useless.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Except double the width, remove the stop lights, and the vehicles are traveling at 60MPH.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:something like this is more inviting to cross...
Or are you saying to eliminate the interstate entirely and make it a city street?
Exactly. Keep the interstate style connection to the east, but there's no need for it to rip through downtown. Not only that, but it would make the riverfront more inviting if we could get rid of those big ugly bridges over the river when we have such a striking pedestrian bridge right there. If anything tear it down and if it's so necessary to have a bridge, why can't we make it visually appealing like every other city seems to understand how to do...TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Get rid if it completely. I-480 between US-75 and the river is completely useless.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Except double the width, remove the stop lights, and the vehicles are traveling at 60MPH.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:something like this is more inviting to cross...
Or are you saying to eliminate the interstate entirely and make it a city street?
Also on keeping the raised roads and making them more appealing, near 10th and capitol they could extend the open container zone to under the bridge and have outdoor events like they do for tailgating at Husker Football.buildomaha wrote:Exactly. Keep the interstate style connection to the east, but there's no need for it to rip through downtown. Not only that, but it would make the riverfront more inviting if we could get rid of those big ugly bridges over the river when we have such a striking pedestrian bridge right there. If anything tear it down and if it's so necessary to have a bridge, why can't we make it visually appealing like every other city seems to understand how to do...TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Get rid if it completely. I-480 between US-75 and the river is completely useless.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Except double the width, remove the stop lights, and the vehicles are traveling at 60MPH.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:something like this is more inviting to cross...
Or are you saying to eliminate the interstate entirely and make it a city street?
Picture one looks pretty good for when I want to off myself and get hit by a couple cars.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Depends on how it's designed. In general, from a pscyhological standpoint, something like this is more inviting to cross...Linkin5 wrote:I am still beyond confused how making 480 a street level boulevard is better, you are making an even bigger barrier than an elevated road.
than something like this...
Walking under a freeway underpass gives you the sense that you'd be trapped and that no one could see you if you found yourself in trouble. Survival instincts.
With a speed limit of 30 (per the picture), you have roughly a 50% chance of just being "severely injured" by a car that hits you at full speed. So it'll require some effort..Linkin5 wrote:Picture one looks pretty good for when I want to off myself and get hit by a couple cars.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Depends on how it's designed. In general, from a pscyhological standpoint, something like this is more inviting to cross...Linkin5 wrote:I am still beyond confused how making 480 a street level boulevard is better, you are making an even bigger barrier than an elevated road.
than something like this...
Walking under a freeway underpass gives you the sense that you'd be trapped and that no one could see you if you found yourself in trouble. Survival instincts.
TitosBuritoBarn wrote:With a speed limit of 30 (per the picture), you have roughly a 50% chance of just being "severely injured" by a car that hits you at full speed. So it'll require some effort..Linkin5 wrote:Picture one looks pretty good for when I want to off myself and get hit by a couple cars.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Depends on how it's designed. In general, from a pscyhological standpoint, something like this is more inviting to cross...Linkin5 wrote:I am still beyond confused how making 480 a street level boulevard is better, you are making an even bigger barrier than an elevated road.
than something like this...
Walking under a freeway underpass gives you the sense that you'd be trapped and that no one could see you if you found yourself in trouble. Survival instincts.
This is about as close to a "like" button as I can get:MadMartin8 wrote:TitosBuritoBarn wrote:With a speed limit of 30 (per the picture), you have roughly a 50% chance of just being "severely injured" by a car that hits you at full speed. So it'll require some effort..Linkin5 wrote:Picture one looks pretty good for when I want to off myself and get hit by a couple cars.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Depends on how it's designed. In general, from a pscyhological standpoint, something like this is more inviting to cross...Linkin5 wrote:I am still beyond confused how making 480 a street level boulevard is better, you are making an even bigger barrier than an elevated road.
than something like this...
Walking under a freeway underpass gives you the sense that you'd be trapped and that no one could see you if you found yourself in trouble. Survival instincts.
We must consider that this would be Omaha. Posted speed limit is 30, which means half the cars will be traveling 50mph, and the other half 15mph.
Yes.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Or are you saying to eliminate the interstate entirely and make it a city street?
It would be very important to keep 13th, 14th, 17th open too. Nothing has been worse for North downtown than being cut-off from the downtown grid to the south by closing parts of it to create "super blocks". I'd even like to see 18th opened back up though the former civic site. and possibly 15th north from Capitol. 13th & 14th are the most important streets for connecting North downtown and the TD Ameritrade to the CBD.nebraska wrote:Yes.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Or are you saying to eliminate the interstate entirely and make it a city street?
But... I think instead of 10 intersections, we need to only keep 10th street, 12th, 16th, and 20th. The on-ramp going west still picks up after 20th, bridging over 24th. The on-ramp going east would be redeveloped at 8th and Dodge. I might download Google Sketchup and mock up something.