Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby RNcyanide » Tue Feb 02, 2016 1:52 pm

51st ave wrote:
Taco wrote:This is the type of project Omaha needs. Turning two single family homes into apartments for 200 will provide a great boost of density for the area, and I believe that it's close enough to Leavenworth that it won't affect the neighborhood too much.

I live here. This is not a positive. I did not move here in the hopes of one day achieving increased density. I am looking to move now and will turn my home into rental property.


Organize some people to go speak to the Council/Planning Board and let them know how you feel. It's not impossible to stop these things. I actually saw a better rendering somewhere else, and it still looks horrible.
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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby bigredmed » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:23 pm

RNcyanide wrote:
51st ave wrote:
Taco wrote:This is the type of project Omaha needs. Turning two single family homes into apartments for 200 will provide a great boost of density for the area, and I believe that it's close enough to Leavenworth that it won't affect the neighborhood too much.

I live here. This is not a positive. I did not move here in the hopes of one day achieving increased density. I am looking to move now and will turn my home into rental property.


Organize some people to go speak to the Council/Planning Board and let them know how you feel. It's not impossible to stop these things. I actually saw a better rendering somewhere else, and it still looks horrible.


I don't live there, but I drive Leavenworth many times a week and do not relish having the added traffic, to say nothing of the construction related delays on that road. I would go with you. Does anyone know if the Planning board accepts Email testimony like the Unicameral does?

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Taco » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:28 pm

51st ave wrote:
Taco wrote:This is the type of project Omaha needs. Turning two single family homes into apartments for 200 will provide a great boost of density for the area, and I believe that it's close enough to Leavenworth that it won't affect the neighborhood too much.

I live here. This is not a positive. I did not move here in the hopes of one day achieving increased density. I am looking to move now and will turn my home into rental property.


Your neighborhood is in between two universities that are rapidly expanding and one of Omaha's premier parks. From an urban development perspective it is ripe for densification as is currently going on further east on Leavenworth. The city's urban planners will likely support this proposal as a way to add property tax to the area with a developer with a track record of success. When looking at the city layout it makes sense to build this project here.

Still, talk to your councilmen and your neighbors. Stakeholder input is an essential part of the planning process, and it seems from the news article that you aren't the only one against it. With loud enough voices you could certainly get this project amended or reduced.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby 51st ave » Tue Feb 02, 2016 6:58 pm

bigredmed wrote:I don't live there, but I drive Leavenworth many times a week and do not relish having the added traffic, to say nothing of the construction related delays on that road. I would go with you. Does anyone know if the Planning board accepts Email testimony like the Unicameral does?


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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby cdub » Wed Feb 03, 2016 8:24 am

Good lord. I thought it was traffic engineers causing problems but the darn neighborhood people are asking for more parking, turn lanes, street widenings and traffic lights. Yes, by all means, move away, that will show em... :hammer:

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

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cdub wrote:Good lord. I thought it was traffic engineers causing problems but the darn neighborhood people are asking for more parking, turn lanes, street widenings and traffic lights. Yes, by all means, move away, that will show em... :hammer:

I don't want more parking. I don't want turn lanes. I don't want the streets to be widened. I don't want traffic lights. I'm not trying to "show" anyone.
I want to be left alone. I want the green space to remain and I especially don't want some darn bubblehead forum member who doesn't live near me to recommend what is best for me.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby asherballa » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:00 pm

51st ave wrote:
cdub wrote:Good lord. I thought it was traffic engineers causing problems but the darn neighborhood people are asking for more parking, turn lanes, street widenings and traffic lights. Yes, by all means, move away, that will show em... :hammer:

I don't want more parking. I don't want turn lanes. I don't want the streets to be widened. I don't want traffic lights. I'm not trying to "show" anyone.
I want to be left alone. I want the green space to remain and I especially don't want some darn bubblehead forum member who doesn't live near me to recommend what is best for me.


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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby daveoma » Wed Feb 03, 2016 1:52 pm

51st ave wrote:
cdub wrote:Good lord. I thought it was traffic engineers causing problems but the darn neighborhood people are asking for more parking, turn lanes, street widenings and traffic lights. Yes, by all means, move away, that will show em... :hammer:

I don't want more parking. I don't want turn lanes. I don't want the streets to be widened. I don't want traffic lights. I'm not trying to "show" anyone.
I want to be left alone. I want the green space to remain and I especially don't want some darn bubblehead forum member who doesn't live near me to recommend what is best for me.

I have some questions for you 51st ave if you don't mind. I sincerely don't mean to sound mocking, and I am interested in your perspective and expectations for the neighborhood.

1. Do you feel that given the high demand in this part of town between two of the largest universities in the state that are growing, do you feel it is justified that developers are wanting to increase density?

2. Do you feel like it is good for the city for this development as it is currently proposed to occur?

3. Do you feel it could increase the property values in your neighborhood, and if no then how exactly would it decrease the value of your home?

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby iamjacobm » Wed Feb 03, 2016 4:55 pm

Planning Board approves on the plan 7-0. Will go to the city council next.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby cdub » Thu Feb 04, 2016 9:09 am

51st ave wrote:
cdub wrote:Good lord. I thought it was traffic engineers causing problems but the darn neighborhood people are asking for more parking, turn lanes, street widenings and traffic lights. Yes, by all means, move away, that will show em... :hammer:

I don't want more parking. I don't want turn lanes. I don't want the streets to be widened. I don't want traffic lights. I'm not trying to "show" anyone.
I want to be left alone. I want the green space to remain and I especially don't want some darn bubblehead forum member who doesn't live near me to recommend what is best for me.


I have a few bubble head real estate agents if you'd like the phone numbers.

I'm sure the owners of the property in question also don't want people telling them what to do.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Busguy2010 » Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:37 am

Good emphasis on 21 stories

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Seth » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:28 pm



That's a pretty good presentation.

The only part of this project that doesn't make much sense is that it doesn't front Leavenworth with first-floor commercial. A street-fronted multi-story building would fit in very well there, complementing the older buildings like Gerdas and the old Wohlner's. The strip mall with grimy parking in front just doesn't make that stretch very inviting.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of new development go up on the nursery/Christmas tree site sometime. It seems like there are more valuable uses for that space now.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby riceweb » Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:51 pm

Seth wrote:


That's a pretty good presentation.

The only part of this project that doesn't make much sense is that it doesn't front Leavenworth with first-floor commercial. A street-fronted multi-story building would fit in very well there, complementing the older buildings like Gerdas and the old Wohlner's. The strip mall with grimy parking in front just doesn't make that stretch very inviting.

I wouldn't be surprised to see some kind of new development go up on the nursery/Christmas tree site sometime. It seems like there are more valuable uses for that space now.


There are other developments planned along Leavenworth. If I remember correctly, things have not yet worked out for a couple of other locations, but as leases expire at some locations along Leavenworth, we might see more projects announced soon.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby garyomaha » Fri Feb 12, 2016 2:51 pm

I used to live right there (well, across the street). I'm trying to imagine 400-ish additional residents in that block. Certainly, something would have to be improved in the infrastructure. Not to mention Three Happiness probably needing to expand into yet another bay. :;): I'm an advocate of increasing density in general, but I suppose that's easy for me to say now that I don't live in that neighborhood anymore.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby iamjacobm » Thu Apr 21, 2016 2:39 pm

$2.74 million in TIF before the city council.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Apr 29, 2016 3:15 pm

Demo well underway.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby MTO » Thu May 05, 2016 9:22 am

KETV is reporting some demo has begun and construction will start soon.
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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby iamjacobm » Sun Aug 07, 2016 9:33 pm

Looks like footings are in here.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby nebraska » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:13 pm

What you can't see in this photo, just to the right side, the northern parking lot has been poured.

Also, did you know that 4 or 5 bays in the strip mall are empty. Hopefully, Leavenworth starts to become a district and businesses start picking up speed.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby daveoma » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:34 pm

They didn't tear down three happiness did they?

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby nebraska » Sat Aug 13, 2016 2:36 pm

No. But it's a sad strip mall. I'd like to see it replaced and 3 Happiness move into a much more worthy building.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Taco » Sat Aug 13, 2016 3:27 pm

nebraska wrote:No. But it's a sad strip mall. I'd like to see it replaced and 3 Happiness move into a much more worthy building.


A building there similar to the blackstone station building fronting farnam or the new one in dundee is high on my wishlist. Leavenworth from saddle creek to 52nd is criminally underdeveloped imo.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby iamjacobm » Thu Oct 27, 2016 2:32 pm

This is going vertical.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

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The best things about all of these midtown and downtown developments is an increase in the tax base and more density as opposed to single family homes. More density makes a good mass transit system more financially viable.
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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:24 pm

I drove by this the other day. Some residents will definitely have complaints about their new view, and I could see why people complained about parking. Pretty big development for the land area. Should hopefully be great when it's done.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Gopher » Tue Mar 21, 2017 4:12 pm

Somebody posted to Google Maps a good view of the construction progress for this site. The photo is about a month old, and it looks like the view is from Elmwood Tower.

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby Lillian Bean » Tue May 09, 2017 12:39 pm

Taken today from my polling place.
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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby iamjacobm » Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:44 pm

"Zag Apartments"

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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Fri Jul 21, 2017 8:55 am

I don't understand these $1000 a month studios. Who is their target demographic? What I mean is, who has $1000 a month to throw away on a 676 sq ft studio apartment?

Studio $1,020
1 Bedroom $1,120 – 1,270
2 Bedrooms $1,350

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http://www.apartmenthomeliving.com/apar ... 06-5695479
https://www.apartments.com/zag-omaha-ne/te1yjjc/
https://www.apartmentguide.com/apartmen ... 100033527/

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Re: 51st & Mayberry

Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Fri Jul 21, 2017 9:57 am

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't understand these $1000 a month studios. Who is their target demographic?


It looks like the "studio" actually has a bedroom, just no door for it. 676 sq. ft is pretty big for a studio.
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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby Linkin5 » Fri Jul 21, 2017 11:35 am

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't understand these $1000 a month studios. Who is their target demographic? What I mean is, who has $1000 a month to throw away on a 676 sq ft studio apartment?

Studio $1,020
1 Bedroom $1,120 – 1,270
2 Bedrooms $1,350

Source:
http://www.apartmenthomeliving.com/apar ... 06-5695479
https://www.apartments.com/zag-omaha-ne/te1yjjc/
https://www.apartmentguide.com/apartmen ... 100033527/



Young single professionals, which being close to UNMC and several Fortune Five Hundred companies will be easy to find.

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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby daveoma » Sat Jul 22, 2017 3:06 am

I agree that the increase in the price of rental properties in Omaha is outrageous. I believe the increases in rent are not keeping pace with wage increases. I suspect that if this continues there will be an apartment bubble or at least a luxury apartment bubble. If the bubble doesn't happen due to a slowing in construction, and wage growth is still slower than rate increases of rent then I think you'll see more and more people sharing homes/apartments. Hopefully the market will compensate to prevent this.

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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:43 am

Linkin5 wrote:
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't understand these $1000 a month studios. Who is their target demographic? What I mean is, who has $1000 a month to throw away on a 676 sq ft studio apartment?


Young single professionals, which being close to UNMC and several Fortune Five Hundred companies will be easy to find.

Thanks. Where do those people live now? Rental homes, or just other not-as-nice apartments?

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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby jjjjhskr » Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:54 am

I think the downtown rental market is softening. When I was looking a couple months ago for my new place there was a lot of wheeling and dealing going on.
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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby nativeomahan » Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:11 pm

One man's expensive apartment is another man's bargain. My buddy paid over $6000 a month for a 2 BR in NYC. No balcony or clubhouse. But he thought it was a bargain compared to the $9000 a month approximately he was paying in his former city.
Now he is in San Francisco and has a 2 BR condo costing him "only" $4,500 a month.

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Re: Zag Apartments (51st & Mayberry)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Mon Jul 31, 2017 9:42 am

nativeomahan wrote:My buddy paid over $6000 a month for a 2 BR in NYC.

Who cares? We are talking about Omaha.
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