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http://www.omaha.com/money/with-new-tow ... d4e4d.html

Avanti, the Italian word for onward or forward, is what P.J. Morgan Real Estate is calling the proposed 19-unit residential community to be built on an acre currently occupied by a few boarded-up structures and lots.

The name nods to the property’s cultural roots as well as the rebirth of an urban corridor filling with new residences, restaurants and businesses.

Their plan features three different building types. On the lower end of the price range, about $285,000, would be more densely packed town houses facing 10th Street. The largest of the residences with two-car garages, rooftop decks and private courtyards likely will go for upward of $400,000.

Honestly, for architecture that bland, I would much rather have a rowhouse development that has units in the $175,000-$200,000 range instead of having the cheapest ones be $285,000.

But it's good to see this corridor filling in quickly.

Midwestern wrote:Honestly, for architecture that bland, I would much rather have a rowhouse development that has units in the $175,000-$200,000 range instead of having the cheapest ones be $285,000.

But it's good to see this corridor filling in quickly.

Why do developers in the Omaha area love to build such bland, boring buildings? All of this high-density development had so much potential. Too bad we love to waste it.

Erik wrote:

Midwestern wrote:Honestly, for architecture that bland, I would much rather have a rowhouse development that has units in the $175,000-$200,000 range instead of having the cheapest ones be $285,000.

But it's good to see this corridor filling in quickly.

Why do developers in the Omaha area love to build such bland, boring buildings? All of this high-density development had so much potential. Too bad we love to waste it.

It's not just an Omaha area thing, I'm pretty sure it's an almost everywhere thing.

Midwestern wrote:

Erik wrote:

Midwestern wrote:Honestly, for architecture that bland, I would much rather have a rowhouse development that has units in the $175,000-$200,000 range instead of having the cheapest ones be $285,000.

But it's good to see this corridor filling in quickly.

Why do developers in the Omaha area love to build such bland, boring buildings? All of this high-density development had so much potential. Too bad we love to waste it.

It's not just an Omaha area thing, I'm pretty sure it's an almost everywhere thing.

I do not disagree at all. My thought is that we do it more so than most places. Our architecture is so boring it's embarrassing.

They can only build what people are willing to pay for. Often, the more creative the design, the more effort & skill it takes to actually get it built...not to mention higher design fees.

It will be interesting to see if all this re-development around here takes a Little Italy/Little Bohemia theme, or if it becomes more of a 10th street thing where the development keeps spreading south directly on 10th St.

I'm kinda hoping for the former.

Erik wrote:

Midwestern wrote:

Erik wrote:

Midwestern wrote:Honestly, for architecture that bland, I would much rather have a rowhouse development that has units in the $175,000-$200,000 range instead of having the cheapest ones be $285,000.

But it's good to see this corridor filling in quickly.

Why do developers in the Omaha area love to build such bland, boring buildings? All of this high-density development had so much potential. Too bad we love to waste it.

It's not just an Omaha area thing, I'm pretty sure it's an almost everywhere thing.

I do not disagree at all. My thought is that we do it more so than most places. Our architecture is so boring it's embarrassing.

What you call bland I call minimalist (which is good IMO).

$400,000 is a ridiculous price in my opinion but apparently the developers have done their research and decided they can sell at those prices.

MTO wrote:What you call bland I call minimalist (which is good IMO).

I agree...these are far from bland...minimalist, yes. This is better than some cute slapped-on historicism.

From these drawings it really is hard to tell. If this is a real wood exterior this could be cool... If not...
I can't tell what the building materials will be...

I really like it. Nice to see it south of DTO too!

They feel mid-century modernist to me. I like it.

Now the Catholic church needs to dump serious energy into All Saints School and the city needs to dress up the Park up the hill on 6th street.

TIF request already in the works.

With all the density being gained around 6th and 10th and pierce, makes you wonder if that 10th streetcar idea would make more sense. At least a bus route. Although, with prices like that, probably wouldn't be much public transportation.

Busguy2010 wrote:With all the density being gained around 6th and 10th and pierce, makes you wonder if that 10th streetcar idea would make more sense. At least a bus route. Although, with prices like that, probably wouldn't be much public transportation.

In a perfect Omaha there will be a perspective change in the coming years about wealth and public transit. I am sure that is idealistic of me though.

iamjacobm wrote:

Busguy2010 wrote:With all the density being gained around 6th and 10th and pierce, makes you wonder if that 10th streetcar idea would make more sense. At least a bus route. Although, with prices like that, probably wouldn't be much public transportation.

In a perfect Omaha there will be a perspective change in the coming years about wealth and public transit. I am sure that is idealistic of me though.

One would hope and I'm with you on the idealism, but it seems to me that, although the tides changing, there are still yet too many West Omahan folks who think a huge back yard, 4 car garage and a 35 minute commute grants them wisdom on public transit and they seem to unanimously conclude the following: "you wouldn't need or use any public transit if you moved to 212 & Pacifc like me."

$1.2 million TIF request before the city council.

This seems like a perfect fit for this lot. I too am a little surprised at the prices, but if the market will bear it, it signals a strong demand for redevelopment here.

Probably not much of a surprise, but these are at least a month behind schedule. I do know that all 4 of the large units have been reserved and many of the smaller units as well, which I think is impressive considering I don't think they've really advertised.

Word on the street is this project is now dead.

Brad wrote:Word on the street is this project is now dead.

Any idea what happened? Seemed like a neat project.

DAnalyst68135 wrote:

Brad wrote:Word on the street is this project is now dead.

Any idea what happened? Seemed like a neat project.

Nope, just a short "You didn't dear it from me, but this project is dead" message...

From what I've heard from people at PJ Morgan this project is still alive and will get built. They've had issues with construction costs coming in over budget, but as early as last week there have been meetings to sort out pushing this project through. I'm confident it will get build. But Brad may know something I don't which proves this wrong.

I do know that several months ago they returned the deposits of those who had reserved lots, but not because the project was dead but because they weren't certain what it was they were selling just yet. I anticipate these will be done spring 2018.

I hope you're correct Catfish I truly like this one.

http://www.omaha.com/money/changes-ahea ... 224c5.html

The $7 million Avanti town house project that had been proposed southeast of 10th and Pierce Streets has been ditched.

PJ Morgan Real Estate had planned to build 19 for-sale homes at the site — selling two-bedroom homes for between $285,000 and $395,000 — but the land instead has changed hands.

Costs had grown higher than expected, PJ Morgan said, and the company sold the land. Half of the units had been reserved.

County records still listed the old owner. Ryan Ellis of PJ Morgan declined to identify the buyer but said the replacement project would be some type of housing.

Voting to rescind TIF.

New project rolling through. Rezoning request for a 5 story building with 89 units.

https://planning.cityofomaha.org/images ... ust/17.pdf

I like it

Easier to cover building costs with 89 units instead of 19.

Liking the new design.

https://planning.cityofomaha.org/images ... ber/30.pdf

iamjacobm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 2:39 pm Liking the new design.

https://planning.cityofomaha.org/images ... ber/30.pdf

Yes, that is much better than their initial expanded plan. I like that it is no longer just going to be a flat facade. Hopefully they can follow through with this design.

They went and doubled the height as well. Not too shabby.

This incarnation looks much better than the earlier plans for this property.

Joe_Sovereign wrote: ↑Thu Aug 02, 2018 9:42 am Easier to cover building costs with 89 units instead of 19.

Project now has 83 units listed.