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The Duke of Omaha Apartment (Lyman Richey Site)

Postby U R my Helix » Sat Apr 09, 2016 5:48 pm

According to the April 2016 Dundee - Memorial Park Association Newsletter "Lyman Richey, the Cement Company, is selling their property at 46th north of Dodge Street. Recent conversations indicate an interested developer is close to securing the property. The developer is from out of state and plans to build 200-300 unit apartment complex at the location that spans from Dodge all the way up to California Street. It's no small project, with the investment estimated at over 30 million.. ..."

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Postby RNcyanide » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:22 pm

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Postby MTO » Sat Apr 09, 2016 6:27 pm

That area NEEDS something like that! Wonderful news.
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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby Taco » Sat Apr 09, 2016 8:57 pm

200-300 is a pretty small number for that size of property imo. Sounds like it would be 2-3 floors at most.

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Postby RockHarbor » Sat Apr 09, 2016 9:05 pm

Cool! I would love more urban density along that unique, meandering Saddle Creek Road... It seems like they are doing a better job of infilling areas now.
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Postby Busguy2010 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 1:53 am

But that is where the light rail is supposed to go!

Really though, that's a good amount of cars to add to the area.

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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby Brad » Sun Apr 10, 2016 12:46 pm

Busguy2010 wrote:But that is where the light rail is supposed to go!


That was a pipe dream by that now defunct group. They wanted to use the old railroad right of way, but that ran right through the middle of where that no-frills, popeye's, child saving institute, and UNMC parking garage are now.
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Postby jessep28 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:43 pm

Is this going to be too close to Dundee? If so, I can see them trying to get the project scrapped like when Fairacres and Memorial Park fussed over the proposed 70th and Cass apartments.
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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby vvindows10 » Sun Apr 10, 2016 3:57 pm

This is going to be a very unique site given its length and narrow lot with. I see a lot of potential as it sits high before it drops down to Saddle Creek.

I think it could be very cool in a row house design if they had parking access and underground garage entry from the Saddle Creek side, possibly with elevators to the upper level. This would also eliminate any possible objection from the Dundee people about traffic.

Can't wait to learn more. Who is doing this?

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Postby RNcyanide » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:29 pm

jessep28 wrote:Is this going to be too close to Dundee? If so, I can see them trying to get the project scrapped like when Fairacres and Memorial Park fussed over the proposed 70th and Cass apartments.


No, it's close to Saddle Creek. It's like two blocks away. Given what the block currently is, I don't think they'd mind about it becoming apartments.
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Postby Garrett » Sun Apr 10, 2016 4:46 pm

I'm just afraid it's going to end up being a suburban concept.
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Postby RNcyanide » Sun Apr 10, 2016 6:40 pm

I think they'll be fine. With the layout of the lot, a spacey suburban feel won't work that well here.
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Postby MTO » Mon Apr 11, 2016 8:30 am

vvindows10 wrote:This is going to be a very unique site given its length and narrow lot with. I see a lot of potential as it sits high before it drops down to Saddle Creek.

I think it could be very cool in a row house design if they had parking access and underground garage entry from the Saddle Creek side, possibly with elevators to the upper level. This would also eliminate any possible objection from the Dundee people about traffic.

Can't wait to learn more. Who is doing this?


Yeah you're right row houses would be a greate idea for that area and given the relatively low density maybe that's the plan. This area is largely disenfranchised by the greater Dundee collective so I doubt they'll give any protest.
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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby iamjacobm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 2:08 pm

U R my Helix wrote:According to the April 2016 Dundee - Memorial Park Association Newsletter "Lyman Richey, the Cement Company, is selling their property at 46th north of Dodge Street. Recent conversations indicate an interested developer is close to securing the property. The developer is from out of state and plans to build 200-300 unit apartment complex at the location that spans from Dodge all the way up to California Street. It's no small project, with the investment estimated at over 30 million.. ..."

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Anyway you could post the rough dimensions of that lot from google maps? DC Assessor doesn't have the info and my computer isn't getting along with google maps lately.

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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby U R my Helix » Tue Apr 12, 2016 4:36 pm

Relying on the "Google scale" I would guess it is just over 200 wide by about 1800 ft long + or - . The assessors website says it is 8.5 acres and 374,042 sf.

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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby jessep28 » Tue Apr 12, 2016 8:49 pm

U R my Helix wrote:Relying on the "Google scale" I would guess it is just over 200 wide by about 1800 ft long + or - . The assessors website says it is 8.5 acres and 374,042 sf.




That's pretty close. The measuring tools in Google Earth Pro says about 230 x 1800, or 9 acres.
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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby U R my Helix » Tue Apr 12, 2016 9:58 pm

My hope for this site is that they present a modern clean row house design with underground parking access from the commercial area below. Something similar to these photos in Buffalo but cleaner. Something with a variety of facades that blend in with the age and look of the area and not just one or two long flat buildings. It could be a couple of long buildings on the inside just make it interesting on the exterior. One can at least hope.

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Postby iamjacobm » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:05 pm

Thanks for the dimensions guys!

The reason I asked was to see how this project would fit. Turns out the depth is spot on, but the length is about double! This is 330 units so expect quite a bit less density than that.

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Postby U R my Helix » Tue Apr 12, 2016 10:29 pm

It is amazing what you can find with a quick search these days. Yes your plans look like they would fit well here. These are for the Metropolitan in Oklahoma City, OK. There are no good street views out yet but the renderings look accurate. Note for those who don’t scan the posts well this is not the actual development but something on a similar sized site.

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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby Lillian Bean » Wed Jun 22, 2016 2:22 pm

From the Dundee Memorial Park Facebook page...

"Tonight, come see a presentation by the developers proposing a very large apartment complex on the Lyman Richie concrete site at 46th and Dodge (north side). Christopher Jerram will be present as well as representatives from the developer. The presentation is at UNO's Thompson Alumni house at 67th and Dodge. 7pm!"

Additional information from the post: [The developer is] The Giddings Group from Georgia. $40 million project, 300+ units, $6 million or so in TIF request.
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Postby choke » Wed Jun 22, 2016 3:55 pm

Lillian Bean wrote:From the Dundee Memorial Park Facebook page...

"Tonight, come see a presentation by the developers proposing a very large apartment complex on the Lyman Richie concrete site at 46th and Dodge (north side). Christopher Jerram will be present as well as representatives from the developer. The presentation is at UNO's Thompson Alumni house at 67th and Dodge. 7pm!"

Additional information from the post: [The developer is] The Giddings Group from Georgia. $40 million project, 300+ units, $6 million or so in TIF request.



Used to live on 41st and Chicago. I love that area. Much better after the Travel Lodge was removed.

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Jun 22, 2016 6:32 pm

Lillian Bean wrote:From the Dundee Memorial Park Facebook page...

"Tonight, come see a presentation by the developers proposing a very large apartment complex on the Lyman Richie concrete site at 46th and Dodge (north side). Christopher Jerram will be present as well as representatives from the developer. The presentation is at UNO's Thompson Alumni house at 67th and Dodge. 7pm!"

Additional information from the post: [The developer is] The Giddings Group from Georgia. $40 million project, 300+ units, $6 million or so in TIF request.


Wish I could go, but that would be a heck of an investment in a part of town that could use some more residents. Hope it goes well.

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Postby Garrett » Thu Jun 23, 2016 8:33 am

Anyone make it and have more info? No news sites have postings yet from what I can tell.
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Jun 30, 2016 5:10 pm

Zoning changes in the works.

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Re: Lyman Richey - Apartment Site 200-300 Units

Postby Taco » Thu Jun 30, 2016 6:11 pm

Looking at the Giddings Group's other projects, I'm afraid this development will be rather suburban looking. Also, their other projects are all rather high-end developments, so they might not be going the same route here.

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Postby daveoma » Thu Jun 30, 2016 7:29 pm

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Taco wrote:Looking at the Giddings Group's other projects, I'm afraid this development will be rather suburban looking. Also, their other projects are all rather high-end developments, so they might not be going the same route here.

A suburban design would be really out of place in Dundee. I hope they choose a design that will fit in.

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Postby MTO » Thu Jun 30, 2016 8:29 pm

Suburban or urban even exurban beats a comcrete plant.
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:45 am

I don't really like the design, but it sounds like they've been sent back to the drawing board to make them fit in more with the neighborhood.
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Re: The Duke of Omaha Apartment (Lyman Richey Site)

Postby Brad » Wed Jul 13, 2016 8:58 am

Lol, doesn't "Fit" with the neighborhood... And a concrete plant does?

On the west side, starting at dodge street working north you have, Crummy print shop building, over grown parking lot, wood siding single family home, wood siding single family home, brick home, brick home, stucco finish apartment, wood siding single family home, wood siding single family home, brick and stucco finish apartment, and a brick apartment.

So what appears to be a new brick and stucco finished apartment would fit right in.

I think this would be an amazing transformation for that neighborhood and the saddlecreek corridor.
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Postby MTO » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:41 am

There's one thing you can count on any time a rendering is released, the vanity police showing up. I say build it and I live on 49th and Chicago, bring on the new neighbors! That area looks so dâmn derelict anything would be an improvement..
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Postby Dundeemaha » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:43 am

If it didn't actually fit with the neighborhood style it would make sense to try to get the design changed. Even though it's a concrete plant now, for the foreseeable future it will be apartments and now is the time to get the style right.

But I agree with your other point. This design seems like it would fit nearly perfectly w/ Dundee so I'm not sure what the problem is.

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Postby Taco » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:52 am

I think the rendering is quite nice and fits well, but with some minor changes to appease the neighbors, it will be even better. What a great land use of this difficult parcel, I really hope this project works out.

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Postby loess hill lusting » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:29 am

Ideally, this super block would be broken up by at least one cross-street between Dodge and California connecting Saddle Creek to 46th. It'd be almost impossible now that the City allowed for Walmart to take over the old Target site without securing ROW or an easement.

Davenport and/or Chicago would be the most logical points to tie into the existing street network, even if you had a diagonal street to traverse the elevation change more gradually. The lack of permeability can add over half a mile of walking from Dundee to destinations along Saddle Creek.

If the developer wanted to be super awesome, they could build a step street passageway through their ground floor to allow pedestrians to cut down the hill.

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Postby GetUrban » Wed Jul 13, 2016 11:31 am

I think the design looks really good as is. Dundee is already known for its great variety of good materials and styles, and this design compliments that. I believe designs should be reflective of the time in which they were built and not necessarily have to copy exactly what has been done before from other eras. I don't see where the neighbors have anything to complain about with this design.
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Postby choke » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:24 pm

Maybe they need to keep the design more inline with what the concrete plant looks like. Perhaps, Dundee residents would be happy with that. Investors try to save Dundee time and time again and all Dundee can do is gripe about it.

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Jul 13, 2016 12:58 pm

The development surrounding Midtown, Med Center and Dundee right now is impressive. ~600 units u/c along Leavenworth from 30th to 50th. Two new buildings fronting Dodge on the way and now a huge influx to support the local businesses in Dundee.

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Postby Brad » Wed Jul 13, 2016 1:52 pm

I just drove down Saddlecreek and looked harder at this site than normal, its going to have a great presence along Saddlecreek!
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Postby MadMartin8 » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:41 pm

choke wrote:Maybe they need to keep the design more inline with what the concrete plant looks like. Perhaps, Dundee residents would be happy with that. Investors try to save Dundee time and time again and all Dundee can do is gripe about it.



Or make it low income housing.
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:43 pm

Say what you will, but this is what the Duke of Nashville looks like...

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I'd rather have this.
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