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Apartment complex going up on site of old Omaha church
KETV wrote:After the church, rectory and gym are gone, only a three-story brick schoolhouse will remain on the 2-acre site. They'll be replaced by about 50 apartment units in two new structures, with one connected to the school building.
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Where's that at?
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MTO wrote:Where's that at?
14th & Castelar

OWH also has an article about it: http://www.omaha.com/money/fresh-start- ... df914.html
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It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
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Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Market rate to me means young couples or families and units that will more rapidly turn into section 8 units.
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Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Unfortunately, I think this will be a hugely missed opportunity. I would have hoped for something unique (like this church to apartment renovation in Boston - below). Sounds like we're going to get another boxy, featureless apartment complex. I bet it will come with a jazzy name though :roll: .

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ILexpat wrote:
Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Unfortunately, I think this will be a hugely missed opportunity. I would have hoped for something unique (like this church to apartment renovation in Boston - below). Sounds like we're going to get another boxy, featureless apartment complex. I bet it will come with a jazzy name though :roll: .

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That may be Unique but unique is not always good. I do not like the looks of that at all.

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Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Unfortunately, I think this will be a hugely missed opportunity. I would have hoped for something unique (like this church to apartment renovation in Boston - below). Sounds like we're going to get another boxy, featureless apartment complex. I bet it will come with a jazzy name though :roll: .

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FWIW, I think that looks awesome.
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I am in the awesome camp as well. But to each his own. It is what makes the world go round. Awesome or not though, the Boston renovation has to be several times more expensive. I mean I would like to drive a Ferrari but . . . the budget says I am still driving a 12 year old Cavalier. It has the sport package though. Now there is an oxymoron: Cavalier with Sport Package.
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That glass box looks horrible
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guy4omaha wrote: there is an oxymoron: Cavalier with Sport Package.
It came with cool decals? :P
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I appreciate what they were trying to do, but I don't think they executed the concept well. They should have incorporated more elements of the church into the addition instead of making it a straight-up glass cube.
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I think it looks awesome. It's unconventional which is refreshing in my opinion.
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MTO wrote:
ILexpat wrote:
Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Unfortunately, I think this will be a hugely missed opportunity. I would have hoped for something unique (like this church to apartment renovation in Boston - below). Sounds like we're going to get another boxy, featureless apartment complex. I bet it will come with a jazzy name though :roll: .

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He's entitled to an opinion, regardless of whether or not he is the developer of the site. This is after all a public forum full of them.

I agree with ILexpat and the others--this is absolutely a missed opportunity. Visually, St. Patrick's is a great structure. And incorporating the church (and perhaps the other structures, to some degree) would be both a sustainable use of materials and unique for the Omaha area.
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bigredmed wrote:
Athomsfere wrote:It is a good looking building! I'm not sure how unique it really is (from the outside it looks like a lot of other churches).

On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
Market rate to me means young couples or families and units that will more rapidly turn into section 8 units.

The OWH article stated:
OWH wrote:Still unknown is the target audience. Woodling said possibilities include independent senior living and market-rate apartments that have been in demand in similar pockets not far from downtown.
On that glass cube church repurpose: I like the idea but I do feel the execution came a little short.
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Coyote wrote:
guy4omaha wrote: there is an oxymoron: Cavalier with Sport Package.
It came with cool decals? :P
No darnit. Sorry to say those weren't in the budget either.
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Athomsfere wrote:On that glass cube church repurpose: I like the idea but I do feel the execution came a little short.
Execution of what? The sketch? Or the idea?

Athomsfere wrote:On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
This whole area is starting to be redeveloped (13th St). I assume they need to build some new apartments to create a higher success rate for the redevelopment.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:
Athomsfere wrote:On that glass cube church repurpose: I like the idea but I do feel the execution came a little short.
Execution of what? The sketch? Or the idea?

Athomsfere wrote:On the new apartments, that doesn't sound interesting. Apartments without a demographic yet...
This whole area is starting to be redeveloped (13th St). I assume they need to build some new apartments to create a higher success rate for the redevelopment.
That sketch came up a little short. It still feels really rough or like the integration wasn't finished. It isn't ugly, but it needs more work IMO.

Also, isn't what the area really needs is some properties that can be bought by earners closer to under the mean earners bracket? Condos around $100k for example?
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St. Patrick Church to make way for housing for seniors, young mothers
Cindy Gonzales - Omaha World Herald wrote:Of the 50 total apartments to be built by Foundations Development, 15 will be for low-to-moderate-income families including graduates of Bethlehem House, which helps pregnant women in crisis.

That family wing is to be built at the site of the soon-to-be-demolished parish gym that is a neighbor to the existing 11-bedroom Bethlehem House (which years ago was the parish convent).

The 35 other apartments will be contained in a separate but nearby structure for independent senior citizens.
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Tax credit application for this site says 38 total units, 30 affordable and 8 market rate. $4.7 million project requesting $287K in tax credits.
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Awarded tax credits today.
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Looks like the developer got their permits recently. Does anyone know what these will look like? I have a house nearby and am interested in how this will turn out.

The Record: Building permits, Sept. 13
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RD Blair LLC, 1404 Castelar St., $2,475,168.
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It looks like the 2nd building containing 15 units is still being considered as well.
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Apartments for seniors, new moms to rise on former church grounds
Construction is to start in March at the 1.3-acre former St. Agnes tract, where a 130-year-old church, a school and priest rectory were demolished over a year ago.

When finished, the 23rd and Q Streets property is to have a new $6.3 million, four-story apartment structure containing 40 units dedicated to seniors.
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ita wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:09 am Apartments for seniors, new moms to rise on former church grounds
Construction is to start in March at the 1.3-acre former St. Agnes tract, where a 130-year-old church, a school and priest rectory were demolished over a year ago.

When finished, the 23rd and Q Streets property is to have a new $6.3 million, four-story apartment structure containing 40 units dedicated to seniors.
Having worked in this neighborhood before I moved I was wondering if anything was coming up in this spot.
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This is at 23rd and Q right? Not 14th & Castelar? If so, we're not talking about a nursing home. I know plenty of people 65+ and they love driving around, so I'm sure a grocery store will not be hard to find for that group. Family Fare on 24th, Supermercado on Vinton, Wal-Mart on Cornhusker, Family Fare on Grover, Wal-Mart on L, all a short drive away. And if worst come to worst, the Family Fare on 24th is along one of the best bus routes in Omaha.
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Busguy2010 wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:17 pm This is at 23rd and Q right? Not 14th & Castelar? If so, we're not talking about a nursing home. I know plenty of people 65+ and they love driving around, so I'm sure a grocery store will not be hard to find for that group. Family Fare on 24th, Supermercado on Vinton, Wal-Mart on Cornhusker, Family Fare on Grover, Wal-Mart on L, all a short drive away. And if worst come to worst, the Family Fare on 24th is along one of the best bus routes in Omaha.
Picture above is at 14th & Castelar.....used to attend the Ukrainian Church at 16th and Martha and would pass this site frequently. However the article talks about both sites.
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I'll have to look for this project next weekend. I guess, I somehow missed it.
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