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Turner Park East (30th & Farnam)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:26 pm
by Brad
Mutual of Omaha plans major development for land east of Midtown Crossing
http://www.ketv.com/article/mutual-of-o ... ng/8481596
KETV wrote:The company has bought much of the land and is gearing up to embark on its vision for "Omaha's urban core."
The redevelopment plans obtained by KETV NewsWatch 7 show renderings for an apartment and six-story hotel between Turner Boulevard and Park Avenue and Douglas and Farnam streets. Those buildings would join the remaining Twin Towers condo on the block.
KETV-TV
Plans for 'Turner Park East' show new hotel, apartment building
Mutual of Omaha has selected Ryan Companies of Minneapolis and Timberland Partners to help develop the project.
Re: Turner Park East (30th & Farnam)
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:30 pm
by Brad
Couple Renderings from the KETV Story
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Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:38 pm
by Coyote
They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:41 pm
by Brad
Coyote wrote:They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
According to the county assessor's site, it does NOT appear so at this time.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:46 pm
by Coyote
Brad wrote:Coyote wrote:They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
According to the county assessor's site, it does NOT appear so at this time.
Unless that LLC already has something behind the scenes going on...
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:55 pm
by MTO
...6 stories.....
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:56 pm
by Athomsfere
Although a massive improvement for all of those lots and the area... I'll get it out of the way for everyone now:
Nothing of even modest height? What I assume is the hotel looks about the same height as the "Twin Tower". It's going to feel great from a density standpoint but something about 150' I think would be perfect on the southern end of the development.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 2:16 am
by 2Adam29
I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:50 am
by MadMartin8
Coyote wrote:They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
Not the historic Radio Shack! I am going to fight this egregious assault on history.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 7:19 am
by choke
MadMartin8 wrote:Coyote wrote:They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
Not the historic Radio Shack! I am going to fight this egregious assault on history.
I agree. The Radio Shack must be preserved. I don't know how it's still there but it must not be touched.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 8:47 am
by Greg S
Honestly I am not concerned about the height. I just love what they are doing down there and think it looks to be a fantastic addition.
Greg
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:15 am
by iamjacobm
Looks like the hotel and apartments could happen quickly with the rest being on a longer timeline. Still looks great, this will be a very impressive addition to midtown and really make the area active.
I did notice that it looks like they haven't done anything with the S-Turn. I wonder if they just dropped any plans to change that?
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:38 am
by Joe_Sovereign
Although not tall if those place holders are any where near the size of the finished product they are massive buildings.
It will be interesting how this will tie in with the huge redevelopment of the old St. Joseph hospital just a few blocks away.
and I am sure that Walgreens and the Burger King franchise holder will gladly sell their land for a healthy profit and move into the open retail bays in the new development.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:59 am
by justnick
what's that grey building south of the twin tower(s?), since it's grey like the hotel and apartment and not red like all the someday-dream-buildings does that mean that building is already planned?
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:01 am
by MadMartin8
choke wrote:MadMartin8 wrote:Coyote wrote:They don't own that much land do they? Walgreens? Radio Shack? BP? Burger King?
Not the historic Radio Shack! I am going to fight this egregious assault on history.
I agree. The Radio Shack must be preserved. I don't know how it's still there but it must not be touched.
I'm tired of Omaha tearing down history. I will fight this development tooth and nail until it's cancelled.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:48 am
by BRoss
iamjacobm wrote:I did notice that it looks like they haven't done anything with the S-Turn. I wonder if they just dropped any plans to change that?
Yes, they dropped those plans a little while back. But I noticed on this rendering that they eventually plan to close 30th south of Dodge and will have Park Ave connect into 30th instead.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:54 am
by omaha79
I will miss having Romeos down there. I hope they stick around int he new development, but bet they won't.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:23 pm
by Omaha Cowboy
2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:49 pm
by MTO
Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:53 pm
by TitosBuritoBarn
I realize how exciting demolition equipment is, but could we please keep these two:
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.2577166 ... 56!6m1!1e1
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 1:40 pm
by Lillian Bean
Agree 100%!! Those two would be the most significant loss.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:20 pm
by MadMartin8
I agree, we need to keep that Romeo's!
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 4:44 pm
by Omaha Cowboy
MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
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Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 5:11 pm
by Linkin5
MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
You telling somebody they don't know anything about urbanism is hilarious, you would take an empty 40 story concrete box over a great full infill project that makes money for the developers.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:00 pm
by MTO
Linkin5 wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
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Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
You telling somebody they don't know anything about urbanism is hilarious, you would take an empty 40 story concrete box over a great full infill project that makes money for the developers.
I'd take Chiraq's skyline over DC's any day.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 6:30 pm
by Omaha Cowboy
MTO wrote:Linkin5 wrote:
You telling somebody they don't know anything about urbanism is hilarious, you would take an empty 40 story concrete box over a great full infill project that makes money for the developers.
I'd take Chiraq's skyline over DC's any day.
Just like you to mix up, mistake and muddy the waters of skyline and urbanism..
It would appear you, my friend, have the "misunderstanding"
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2016 11:58 pm
by daveoma
MadMartin8 wrote:
I agree, we need to keep that Romeo's!
I think they're talking about the 2 old brick structures, but the Romeo's building.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 3:22 am
by Garrett
Omaha Cowboy wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:59 am
by MadMartin8
daveoma wrote:MadMartin8 wrote:
I agree, we need to keep that Romeo's!
I think they're talking about the 2 old brick structures, but the Romeo's building.
Pshaw, we save one we have to save all historic structures. Romeo's is an Omaha staple!
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 12:41 pm
by TitosBuritoBarn
I know you're joking but there's obviously a difference between aesthetically pleasing old buildings and ones built to house a cheap chain store. Much the same way you'll see more car enthusiasts choose to restore a 1986 Mustang GT than a 1986 Ford Escort.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 1:00 pm
by Omaha Cowboy
Garrett wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
Indeed.. We shall
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 5:22 pm
by MTO
Omaha Cowboy wrote:Garrett wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
Indeed.. We shall
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Well yeah if you exclude the Paris suburbs, and NYC's CBD is inside city limits while the Paris's CBD is mostly outside the city proper. So we both can skew the numbers to make our points however no matter how you fudge the numbers NYC's skyline(S) pwn Paris's.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 6:44 pm
by Garrett
MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:Garrett wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
Indeed.. We shall
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Well yeah if you exclude the Paris suburbs, and NYC's CBD is inside city limits while the Paris's CBD is mostly outside the city proper. So we both can skew the numbers to make our points however no matter how you fudge the numbers NYC's skyline(S) pwn Paris's.
Skylines don't mean anything beyond being a dick comparing contest. The most vibrant and thriving areas of Omaha and many other major cities continue to be areas that lack skyscrapers. It's the street life that counts, not what hangs above it.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:21 pm
by Athomsfere
Garrett wrote:
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
And Omaha's is like 4 times a lot of the cities we are trying to emulate (OKC, KC)
I'll say again this project is GREAT (Along with the Children's hospital's new proposal) and will feel great.
I still say one project here of about 150' would break it up a little and look great:
Unrelated:
TitosBuritoBarn wrote:I know you're joking but there's obviously a difference between aesthetically pleasing old buildings and ones built to house a cheap chain store. Much the same way you'll see more car enthusiasts choose to restore a 1986 Mustang GT than a 1986 Ford Escort.
C'mon the Fox Body Mustang was pure |expletive| and no better than the Escort of the same year!
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 7:46 pm
by PotatoeEatsFish
A 30 story tower out here would look out of place. I'm usually all for skyscrapers but I don't want one here, the sizes are perfect for this area.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 8:19 pm
by Coyote
Who owns and how important are those two towers behind Romero's, NE of Park Ave & Harney?
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 9:19 pm
by Brad
Coyote wrote:Who owns and how important are those two towers behind Romero's, NE of Park Ave & Harney?
"ENERGY MANAGEMENT AND CONTROL" owns the cell phone looking tower
"A T S MOBILE TELEPHONE" owns the red and white three leg tower
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2016 11:09 pm
by Erik
Garrett wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:Garrett wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:MTO wrote:Omaha Cowboy wrote:2Adam29 wrote:I could care less about height here. The biggest thing for me is the fact that this can theoretically bring a walkable neighborhood right to the edge of the interstate, and get us that much closer to having a fully connected midtown and downtown.
^
This. Absolutely
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
If you think a single level addition to this block would be the same as a six or 17 or 26 or 32 you misunderstand urbanism.
Your jealousy of proposals never ceases to amaze me..
And I misunderstand NOTHING. The urban infill and connectivity this plan brings to the table is a huge development and plus for Omaha's urban core or "urbanism" as you like to say.
Significant urban projects and infill come in all shapes and sizes are are not always tied to height...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Shall we take a moment to remember that Paris, a city of 6-10 story buildings, has more than twice the density of New York?
Indeed.. We shall
...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Well yeah if you exclude the Paris suburbs, and NYC's CBD is inside city limits while the Paris's CBD is mostly outside the city proper. So we both can skew the numbers to make our points however no matter how you fudge the numbers NYC's skyline(S) pwn Paris's.
Skylines don't mean anything beyond being a dick comparing contest. The most vibrant and thriving areas of Omaha and many other major cities continue to be areas that lack skyscrapers. It's the street life that counts, not what hangs above it.
Im over the whole skyscraper |expletive|. There are far, far more important things to think about. I think Omaha is on a very impressive role. Screw skyscrapers, its about livability.
Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 11:59 am
by Coyote
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Re: Turner Park East
Posted: Sun Dec 11, 2016 3:56 pm
by RNcyanide