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1811 Island LLC (Dicon) just had this rezoned from DS to CBD...Iloverumors wrote:They are rehabbing the building to the south plus the Dakota Title building will be done next. There is also talk of a new build in the parking lot south across from the Flatiron.
What is DS?Coyote wrote:1811 Island LLC (Dicon) just had this rezoned from DS to CBD... This was built in 1900 as an Office Building.Iloverumors wrote:They are rehabbing the building to the south plus the Dakota Title building will be done next. There is also talk of a new build in the parking lot south across from the Flatiron.
DS = Dwelling Suburban.. As it relates to a zoning district...daveoma wrote:What is DS?Coyote wrote:1811 Island LLC (Dicon) just had this rezoned from DS to CBD... This was built in 1900 as an Office Building.Iloverumors wrote:They are rehabbing the building to the south plus the Dakota Title building will be done next. There is also talk of a new build in the parking lot south across from the Flatiron.
DS downtown service district.daveoma wrote:What is DS?
There is a rendering of the 172 unit new build project in the link as well.Mixed-use redevelopment project in the historic Flatiron District! Fantastic street retail opportunities, with
approximately 200 apartments to be developed on upper levels. Only blocks away from the Old Market!
500 S. 18TH ST. The historic Standard Oil/Law Building will consist of 5,218 SF of street retail. An additional
172 apartments to be built with an estimated completion date of 1/19. Beautiful historic building perfect for a
restaurant!
563 S. 18TH ST. The former Frieden Building will consist of 2,030 SF of street retail and 13 residential units on
the second and third floors. Can be demised in two. Estimated completion date 1/18.
1801 ST. MARY’S AVE. The former Dakota Title Building will consist of 6,460 SF of street retail and 8 second
floor apartments. Newly constructed private green/patio space on the west side of newly built addition.
Estimated completion date 1/18. Can be demised to 876 SF.
aaaron wrote:That logo in the retail bay window in the rendering looks like Zen Coffee's. Kind of weird to add that detail, unless they're going to have space here. But why would they?
14 units almost all small studios. Two units as small as 244 SF.Coyote wrote:Bijoux Residences
I used to work at the jail during grad school. I walked from Creighton to the jail and really liked the Flatiron area. However, I do agree with you that the jail is a hurdle. This might be a dream, and I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before, but I would like to see the jail moved. It takes a large portion of real estate in an area just brimming with potential, as we can see with this proposed plan.iamjacobm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:53 am This area of DT is loaded with potential. Great old buildings, narrow streets keep traffic at a minimum and pedestrian friendly, close to the CBD for work and the Old Market.
The main downside right now is lack of immediate retail options and the jail. The detention center would be another hurdle. If logic prevails and the undersized detention center is abandoned the new courthouses and offices could bring a good daytime population into the area.
Spent a lot of time in and around the Flatiron building the last three years. The jail is not much of a concern - although living "next to the jail" has its stigmas, as you've ascertained. However, the Greyhound station is only a block and a half away or so and that brought some riffraff. Although, my biggest complaint was people blowing out of the OPPD parking structure. Never looked for pedestrians walking.ita wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pmI used to work at the jail during grad school. I walked from Creighton to the jail and really liked the Flatiron area. However, I do agree with you that the jail is a hurdle. This might be a dream, and I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before, but I would like to see the jail moved. It takes a large portion of real estate in an area just brimming with potential, as we can see with this proposed plan.iamjacobm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:53 am This area of DT is loaded with potential. Great old buildings, narrow streets keep traffic at a minimum and pedestrian friendly, close to the CBD for work and the Old Market.
The main downside right now is lack of immediate retail options and the jail. The detention center would be another hurdle. If logic prevails and the undersized detention center is abandoned the new courthouses and offices could bring a good daytime population into the area.
I have always had the feeling that businesses generally avoid moving into the immediate area surrounding the jail because, well it's a jail, and there are stigmas associated with being near a jail. there are vacancies in most of the buildings on that street. It's a fine facility as is, though, there were concerns in the past with its inadequate space and amenities. I think it would do this area wonders if the jail was moved to another part of town, though I don't know where it could go at this point without making trips from the courthouse to the jail too far.
I moved to this side of DT about two months ago and totally agree that the jail has realistically been a nonissue for me. I think stigma matters when concerning investors and tenants though, it is still a hurdle that some people will need to get over when considering their housing or where to locate their business.obvious2677 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:45 pmSpent a lot of time in and around the Flatiron building the last three years. The jail is not much of a concern - although living "next to the jail" has its stigmas, as you've ascertained. However, the Greyhound station is only a block and a half away or so and that brought some riffraff. Although, my biggest complaint was people blowing out of the OPPD parking structure. Never looked for pedestrians walking.ita wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pmI used to work at the jail during grad school. I walked from Creighton to the jail and really liked the Flatiron area. However, I do agree with you that the jail is a hurdle. This might be a dream, and I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before, but I would like to see the jail moved. It takes a large portion of real estate in an area just brimming with potential, as we can see with this proposed plan.iamjacobm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:53 am This area of DT is loaded with potential. Great old buildings, narrow streets keep traffic at a minimum and pedestrian friendly, close to the CBD for work and the Old Market.
The main downside right now is lack of immediate retail options and the jail. The detention center would be another hurdle. If logic prevails and the undersized detention center is abandoned the new courthouses and offices could bring a good daytime population into the area.
I have always had the feeling that businesses generally avoid moving into the immediate area surrounding the jail because, well it's a jail, and there are stigmas associated with being near a jail. there are vacancies in most of the buildings on that street. It's a fine facility as is, though, there were concerns in the past with its inadequate space and amenities. I think it would do this area wonders if the jail was moved to another part of town, though I don't know where it could go at this point without making trips from the courthouse to the jail too far.
Go to Rose and Crown!iamjacobm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 05, 2018 8:52 amI moved to this side of DT about two months ago and totally agree that the jail has realistically been a nonissue for me. I think stigma matters when concerning investors and tenants though, it is still a hurdle that some people will need to get over when considering their housing or where to locate their business.obvious2677 wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 6:45 pmSpent a lot of time in and around the Flatiron building the last three years. The jail is not much of a concern - although living "next to the jail" has its stigmas, as you've ascertained. However, the Greyhound station is only a block and a half away or so and that brought some riffraff. Although, my biggest complaint was people blowing out of the OPPD parking structure. Never looked for pedestrians walking.ita wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 5:11 pmI used to work at the jail during grad school. I walked from Creighton to the jail and really liked the Flatiron area. However, I do agree with you that the jail is a hurdle. This might be a dream, and I don't know if anyone has mentioned it before, but I would like to see the jail moved. It takes a large portion of real estate in an area just brimming with potential, as we can see with this proposed plan.iamjacobm wrote: ↑Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:53 am This area of DT is loaded with potential. Great old buildings, narrow streets keep traffic at a minimum and pedestrian friendly, close to the CBD for work and the Old Market.
The main downside right now is lack of immediate retail options and the jail. The detention center would be another hurdle. If logic prevails and the undersized detention center is abandoned the new courthouses and offices could bring a good daytime population into the area.
I have always had the feeling that businesses generally avoid moving into the immediate area surrounding the jail because, well it's a jail, and there are stigmas associated with being near a jail. there are vacancies in most of the buildings on that street. It's a fine facility as is, though, there were concerns in the past with its inadequate space and amenities. I think it would do this area wonders if the jail was moved to another part of town, though I don't know where it could go at this point without making trips from the courthouse to the jail too far.
My biggest gripe would be just being to early to the party in the neighborhood. It would be great if there were a neighborhood bar and a more casual dining option than Flatiron Cafe. Even something as simple as the catering business off of 19th and Jackson opening some lunch hours would be great. There is a catering business in Dallas housed in a very similar older building off of DT that I frequent when in the city that opens for lunch and they just offer cold sandwiches and salads that is great for a quick bite and is quite busy. Would love to have that option when more people start living and working in the area.
Oops, Coyote's images didn't carry.
Annoying when the key point is obscurely abbreviated, especially in this age of artificial intelligence instantaneously suggesting words as you type them in. Although that can be annoying too.
Dated a girl that lived in the Flatiron building. She was not from here and it took her all of two minutes to realize that was a jail.... based on all of the fences having razor wire over them...PWL73316 wrote: ↑Sun Jun 02, 2019 10:15 pm Missed the previous discussion - I don't think the jail is a huge hurdle because its basically anonymous and most young people don't even know its there. I had lived in Omaha, starting at Creighton, for many years before I found out about it. There are plenty of young professionals in similar situations who will want to live there and not care about the jail, if they even know about it. Only the main entrance even has clear signage to let you know its a correctional facility, and nobody goes that way unless they have business there.