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Blackstone Corner (36th and Farnam)

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Former Phi Kappa Psi house to be demolished, redeveloped

http://www.wowt.com/content/news/Former ... 28373.html
www.wowt.com wrote:It will include 112 apartments and about 12,000 square feet of commercial space. The $22 million project should get underway by late fall.

Clarity Development hopes to have the project complete by the spring of 2019.
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112 apartments on that lot? Where's the parking?

It looks like 12,000 square feet on the 1st floor. Then 4 floors of apartments. It seems like each floor of apartments would be 12,000 square feet. 112 apartments on 4 floors is 28 apartments per floor. If each floor is 12,000 square feet, then each apartment would be 428 square feet.

Maybe there's a gym, apartment entrance and mailboxes on the first floor that is 1000 square feet. Then each floor would be 13,000 sq ft, or 464 sq ft per apartment.

According to the Douglas County Assesor, the lot is 132ft by 140ft or 18,480 sq ft.
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So, is Slate Architecture moving then?
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nebraska wrote:So, is Slate Architecture moving then?
Why would they? They have their own lot.

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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Why would they? They have their own lot.
That picture was cropped just enough to not verify Slate's future. But to me, it seems like the building goes to the end of the block.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Why would they? They have their own lot.
That picture was cropped just enough to not verify Slate's future. But to me, it seems like the building goes to the end of the block.
It's just a render of a building design.
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The project is being built on both the middle and east lots on that block.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:112 apartments on that lot? Where's the parking?
Due to a scheduling conflict on Saturday we pre-recorded Grow Omaha this morning. Trenton brought up the parking for this project and apparently it falls under some new zoning where they allow less parking than normal.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:112 apartments on that lot? Where's the parking?
That is really big. I wonder if the developers are banking on public transportation. A step in the right direction in my opinion, but there's no streetcar yet. This seems to be a good sized risk and it'll be interesting to see how it works out.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:112 apartments on that lot? Where's the parking?
So that could be close to 100 cars to park somewhere and that puts it right across from the Crescent Moon and their customers. Then you have all the apts on 36th between Farnam and Dodge that already park on the street.

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There are 50 parking stalls in a podium parking garage beneath the building. Between the 800 stall lot to the northeast and the 200 stalls to the southwest there seems to be ample parking for this building - kudos for finding shared parking solutions instead of building more surface parking.
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GSD BSD wrote:There are 50 parking stalls in a podium parking garage beneath the building. Between the 800 stall lot to the northeast and the 200 stalls to the southwest there seems to be ample parking for this building - kudos for finding shared parking solutions instead of building more surface parking.
That's Mutual of Omaha and Kiewit parking. Residents cannot park there.
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Omaha_corn_burner wrote:
GSD BSD wrote:There are 50 parking stalls in a podium parking garage beneath the building. Between the 800 stall lot to the northeast and the 200 stalls to the southwest there seems to be ample parking for this building - kudos for finding shared parking solutions instead of building more surface parking.
That's Mutual of Omaha and Kiewit parking. Residents cannot park there.
And it's time people wise up! I walk past that Blackstone Building parking lot often. It's empty 66-75% of the time! Let the people park! More exclamation marks!

To prove the point that businesses and residents can share, Dundee Bank has an agreement with Blackstone Station for residents to park there after hours.
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Glad to hear about the parking for next time when I am down there.
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Demo already underway.
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Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
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Uffda wrote:Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
Probably not that weird once if they showed the interior partition walls for bedrooms, bathrooms, closets, etc.
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Uffda wrote:Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
Wow, 580sq ft! That must be a record small size for new apartments in Omaha. The smallest apartment I could find in 2008 was around 700 sq ft.
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yard salad wrote:
Uffda wrote:Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
Wow, 580sq ft! That must be a record small size for new apartments in Omaha. The smallest apartment I could find in 2008 was around 700 sq ft.
Huh? you realize those are studios right? By comparison, studios at The Corvina are as small as 500, Broadmoor at Aksarben 528, Fox Run 509, City View 346, Kennsington Tower 428. A mix of new and old, all smaller than these.
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JDJase wrote:
yard salad wrote:
Uffda wrote:Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
Wow, 580sq ft! That must be a record small size for new apartments in Omaha. The smallest apartment I could find in 2008 was around 700 sq ft.
Huh? you realize those are studios right? By comparison, studios at The Corvina are as small as 500, Broadmoor at Aksarben 528, Fox Run 509, City View 346, Kennsington Tower 428. A mix of new and old, all smaller than these.
346 sqft!!
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This is certainly breaking the mold of most recent east Omaha developments that provide roughly the same amount of parking as units.

Between this and the Colonial, which has next to no dedicated parking, it will really put a test out there for how much parking developers need to provide and how well the neighborhood can handle the influx.
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iamjacobm wrote:This is certainly breaking the mold of most recent east Omaha developments that provide roughly the same amount of parking as units.

Between this and the Colonial, which has next to no dedicated parking, it will really put a test out there for how much parking developers need to provide and how well the neighborhood can handle the influx.
https://www.google.com/maps/@41.258144, ... a=!3m1!1e3

Huh? The house north of Colonial Hotel was torn down to make a parking lot. I can see this from my apartment window. Best guess is maybe 20-30 spots (they haven't finished pouring the concrete yet).

And it's absolutely insane that there are thousands of parking spots within 3 blocks of the the frat house. They need to work with Mutual on getting some of that sweet after-business hours parking.
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yard salad wrote:
JDJase wrote:
yard salad wrote:
Uffda wrote:Those are some small apts. and a few have really interesting shapes.
Wow, 580sq ft! That must be a record small size for new apartments in Omaha. The smallest apartment I could find in 2008 was around 700 sq ft.
Huh? you realize those are studios right? By comparison, studios at The Corvina are as small as 500, Broadmoor at Aksarben 528, Fox Run 509, City View 346, Kennsington Tower 428. A mix of new and old, all smaller than these.
346 sqft!!
I lived with my ex in a 325 sqft studio. Our building had units somewhere in the mid-upper 200s. I live in a 590 sqft 2 bedroom now
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And its gone.
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Plans submitted for Blackstone Corner:
Parking Garage 23530sf,
1st level Mixed Use 22395sf,
2nd-5th level Apartments 88800sf.
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Foundation starting to go up. Need some warm weather here and they can pour a little more.
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Steel going up here. Looking good!
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Wow...those are cool. I like how it incorporates themes & ques from the old Blackstone Hotel. I saw that sudden change in one day w/ thar particular lot.
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Really nice project saw it this past weekend the whole Blackstone area is coming together real good. I was wondering if it would be possible to get some residential taller than 4-5 floors in Blackstone just to break up the monotony. Even a 7-8 story building will add a little variety. Just a thought..
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Cermak wrote: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:27 pm Really nice project saw it this past weekend the whole Blackstone area is coming together real good. I was wondering if it would be possible to get some residential taller than 4-5 floors in Blackstone just to break up the monotony. Even a 7-8 story building will add a little variety. Just a thought..
Or perhaps some condos.
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Yes a few condos would be nice, sometimes I get the feeling developers in Omaha would rather just build apartments. Maybe it’s easier and less hassle, I dunno.
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Cermak wrote: Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:31 pm Yes a few condos would be nice, sometimes I get the feeling developers in Omaha would rather just build apartments. Maybe it’s easier and less hassle, I dunno.
Much easier from a loan perspective. Generate revenue much quicker/easier to pay off the loans. A building is much more likely to sit with unsold condo units rather than unrented apartments.
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Thanks for the info, just what I thought apartments easier. Actually very few condos being built in Omaha nowadays.
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One of the retail bays in here is going to be a sports bar concept called the "The Sports Hall"
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BIGO88 wrote: Wed Mar 27, 2019 11:26 am One of the retail bays in here is going to be a sports bar concept called the "The Sports Hall"
Sports Hall is going in next to Dante/Forno actually.
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