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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Garrett » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:24 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:
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iamjacobm wrote:Well according to a post over on DSM's forum the IT department for Kiewit will be staying in their current building.



I checked with a friend who is a senior IT manager at Kiewit and she stated IT may eventually be going downtown as well.


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That is also what I heard earlier today.



As for working harder to bring in companies to relocate here, an actual HQ and not just a satellite office, what exactly could be done that is fesible and would pass given the mindset of the people and government in this city and state?


These days there’s basically just one thing that will attract an HQ.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby MadMartin8 » Sat Dec 16, 2017 7:42 pm

Garrett wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:
Greg S wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Well according to a post over on DSM's forum the IT department for Kiewit will be staying in their current building.



I checked with a friend who is a senior IT manager at Kiewit and she stated IT may eventually be going downtown as well.


Greg



That is also what I heard earlier today.



As for working harder to bring in companies to relocate here, an actual HQ and not just a satellite office, what exactly could be done that is fesible and would pass given the mindset of the people and government in this city and state?


These days there’s basically just one thing that will attract an HQ.... $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$



Hence my caveat "given the mindset of the people amd government of the state". I doubt they do what it takes.
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Dundeemaha » Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:05 pm

I am starting to really doubt that the tax breaks and incentives really attract companies. I think they can be a tie breaker but by and large companies decide where they want to go and use incentive offers as bargaining chips too get a sweeter deal where they were going to go anyway.

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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sun Dec 17, 2017 11:40 pm

Dundeemaha wrote: I think they can be a tie breaker but by and large companies decide where they want to go and use incentive offers as bargaining chips too get a sweeter deal where they were going to go anyway.


Hard to disagree with this one.. Good point :thumb: ...

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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:11 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote:
Dundeemaha wrote: I think they can be a tie breaker but by and large companies decide where they want to go and use incentive offers as bargaining chips too get a sweeter deal where they were going to go anyway.


Hard to disagree with this one.. Good point :thumb: ...

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When I made my original post, I was meaning more than what one would typically think of as incentives, but including them. For example, civic improvements like public transportation, airport improvements, entertainment focus, etc. Things that not only attract business in of themselves, but help keep talent in state. Not to mention focused Omaha/Nebraska marketing (Nebraska nice? Yikes). Those all cost $$$, and sometimes lots of it. *Shrugs*
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon Dec 18, 2017 12:33 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
Dundeemaha wrote: I think they can be a tie breaker but by and large companies decide where they want to go and use incentive offers as bargaining chips too get a sweeter deal where they were going to go anyway.


Hard to disagree with this one.. Good point :thumb: ...

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When I made my original post, I was meaning more than what one would typically think of as incentives, but including them. For example, civic improvements like public transportation, airport improvements, entertainment focus, etc. Things that not only attract business in of themselves, but help keep talent in state. Not to mention focused Omaha/Nebraska marketing (Nebraska nice? Yikes). Those all cost $$$, and sometimes lots of it. *Shrugs*


No disagreement at all here. I agree...

Kiewit “may” have been the last local corporate chance Omaha has of going vertical in the central business district.. But I’m satisfied with their commitment to build in north downtown..even with a 5-9 story low rise structure..

If we’re thinking of vertical, then what happens at the old Civic site as it relates to a possible public library move.. Then the current location of W Dale Clark becomes a prime location for a premium structure of some sort.. But that’s another discussion for another thread :) ...

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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:06 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
Dundeemaha wrote: I think they can be a tie breaker but by and large companies decide where they want to go and use incentive offers as bargaining chips too get a sweeter deal where they were going to go anyway.


Hard to disagree with this one.. Good point :thumb: ...

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When I made my original post, I was meaning more than what one would typically think of as incentives, but including them. For example, civic improvements like public transportation, airport improvements, entertainment focus, etc. Things that not only attract business in of themselves, but help keep talent in state. Not to mention focused Omaha/Nebraska marketing (Nebraska nice? Yikes). Those all cost $$$, and sometimes lots of it. *Shrugs*


No disagreement at all here. I agree...

Kiewit “may” have been the last local corporate chance Omaha has of going vertical in the central business district.. But I’m satisfied with their commitment to build in north downtown..even with a 5-9 story low rise structure..

If we’re thinking of vertical, then what happens at the old Civic site as it relates to a possible public library move.. Then the current location of W Dale Clark becomes a prime location for a premium structure of some sort.. But that’s another discussion for another thread :) ...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


Don't get me wrong, I LOVE what Kiewit has done for the area. Just stated that, for those looking for a commercial based high rise, they may be out of luck in the near, mid terms.
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby MTO » Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:36 pm

I’d say they’re out of luck for th long terms too. I only have three problems with this and of course it’s an asinine low rise, it shortens the list of this famed GLM head piece and we are losing another street. I think it’s OCD but our downtown street grid is already looking like a Cadillac grill full of bullet holes. And Omaha just gives these blocks up like they want a confusing |expletive| grid it should be an ordinance to preserve continuity.
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Coyote » Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:09 pm

I like what Kiewit is doing.
They are making a long term commitment to Omaha.
If they had to pull the strings now,
it's probably because they knew the library wasn't moving anytime soon.
They can now spur great retail/restaurant energy in North Downtown.
Isn't this what we really wanted?

Who knows when of if the Library location will be open for development?
Who knows what will be on the Tetrad site? The ConAgra site? Lot B?

I trust our World class Chamber in finding the right fit for the Library site.
Downtown Omaha has a lot going for it right now.
There just might be a wild card waiting for an amazing opportunity to open up.
This can be a huge selling point for an outside business to make a huge splash.
How many other cities can offer a World class location for instant recognition?

I look on the bright side of an opportunity for a huge get for Omaha.
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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby EastCB » Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:30 pm

MTO wrote:I’d say they’re out of luck for th long terms too. I only have three problems with this and of course it’s an asinine low rise, it shortens the list of this famed GLM head piece and we are losing another street. I think it’s OCD but our downtown street grid is already looking like a Cadillac grill full of bullet holes. And Omaha just gives these blocks up like they want a confusing |expletive| grid it should be an ordinance to preserve continuity.

Well, then you give your millions and then you can get what you want,:)

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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby Joe_Sovereign » Tue Dec 19, 2017 9:14 am

Another Super Block. Couldn't the building on one block and the parking lot on the other connected by some elevated walkways serve the same purpose. Is ConAgra campus the first Super Block in Omaha where the city might reclaim a street?

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Re: New Kiewit HQ

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Feb 02, 2018 12:36 pm

Of interest. The property to the west of the Session room sold in January, as far as I can tell not to Kiewit. "North Downtown Condos LLC" is the owner now.


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