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Postby StreetsOfOmaha » Thu May 08, 2008 9:04 pm

Brad wrote:Here is a 2007 aerial map of the site(it has the police barn finished and the butternut is gone)

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EDIT: looks like 2 of were thinking MAP at the same time :D


OH. MY. GOD.  So much potential.  Where to begin?

You see, this is why we don't tear things down Downtown!
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Postby Brad » Thu May 08, 2008 10:00 pm

StreetsOfOmaha wrote:OH. MY. GOD.  So much potential.  Where to begin?


I am guessing 9 or 10 square blocks.
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Postby Ben » Thu May 08, 2008 10:30 pm

Question for anyone in the know....  What of this must stay?  I know the actual power station isn't in in use, but I'd assume that electrical substation (or whatever the blue-green things are) is....  What about those tanks?  While its an awfully big site, I wonder how much of it might have to stay in place for utilities use.

I absolutely love the idea of a entertainment destination - comedy place, small movie theater, bars/restaurants. etc.  My only concern is traffic / parking, as its a sort of out of the way place to get to b/c of the 10th street overpass.  I'd hope they'd be able to work out a deal with ConAgra or whomever owns those lots to use them after business hours instead of putting a sea of parking lots down there.

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Postby Brad » Thu May 08, 2008 10:49 pm

Ben wrote:Question for anyone in the know....  What of this must stay?  I know the actual power station isn't in in use, but I'd assume that electrical substation (or whatever the blue-green things are) is....  What about those tanks?  While its an awfully big site, I wonder how much of it might have to stay in place for utilities use.


Here is what I am guessing has to stay and what can go.

I bet that the Green Must Stay
The Red can Go
The Purple must remain parking of some type, May be it can be converted in to mix use garage/retail or something.

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Postby Brad » Thu May 08, 2008 11:01 pm

Here is what I would do if I had some cash!

Brown = Redevelop parking in to garages with "raised" street level retail.  By raised like the sidewalk in front of Urban wine where it is above the street like an old dock.

Purple = Complete Redevelopment.  Rehab the cool buildings, bulldoze the junk!

Red = Extend the river walk all the way to Ricks.  May be another Ped Bridge to Harra's

Black = Not going anywhere, unfortunately.

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Postby Big E » Fri May 09, 2008 9:00 am

The brown lots are ConAgra's.  I kind of doubt they are going to get into the property management game.  

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Postby Brad » Fri May 09, 2008 9:48 am

Big E wrote:The brown lots are ConAgra's.  I kind of doubt they are going to get into the property management game.  


Which would probably make the power plant property worthless.  However you never know. Mutual got in to the game!
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Postby S33 » Fri May 09, 2008 12:07 pm

Brad wrote:Here is what I would do if I had some cash!

Brown = Redevelop parking in to garages with "raised" street level retail.  By raised like the sidewalk in front of Urban wine where it is above the street like an old dock.

Purple = Complete Redevelopment.  Rehab the cool buildings, bulldoze the junk!

Red = Extend the river walk all the way to Ricks.  May be another Ped Bridge to Harra's

Black = Not going anywhere, unfortunately.

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I think those tanks in the black area could easily be removed. That was only oil storage as oil was the energy source for the old power plant.
The substation is nothing some trees and shrubs couldn't hide. So much potential for that area.

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Postby Omababe » Tue May 20, 2008 5:00 pm

Possible stupid question here.

What are those two big turquoise machinery-looking things? I drove by there the other day and it almost looked like one of them had a window with a space in it.

Just curious. :)

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Postby ItsAllAboutMe » Tue May 20, 2008 9:53 pm

Those items are gas turbines.

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Postby Bomaha » Wed May 21, 2008 11:26 am

This is sort of referring to the Durham Museum. I have two questons: Who owns the vacant rail area with no tracks? and Is there a separate rail spur-thing going to the museum?

Because I was thinking about a train park (or something like that) ala Kenefick Park & Freedom Park, but have ones from around the world and it be a signature attraction for the museum or open to the public.

I know I have had some out-there ideas, but this I think could be a good one. Tell me what you think.

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Postby Ben » Wed May 21, 2008 12:50 pm

Bomaha wrote:This is sort of referring to the Durham Museum. I have two questons: Who owns the vacant rail area with no tracks? and Is there a separate rail spur-thing going to the museum?

Because I was thinking about a train park (or something like that) ala Kenefick Park & Freedom Park, but have ones from around the world and it be a signature attraction for the museum or open to the public.

I know I have had some out-there ideas, but this I think could be a good one. Tell me what you think.


During Railroad days, they often park several special interest locomotives and railcars behind the Durham.  There is an exit from their lower level that easily facilitates this.   If this was a permanent exhibit, with routine access to the rails, I'm fairly sure UP would have issue with it, or at the very least, require fencing around whatever display area would be established.  Those UP tracks are very busy, and the last thing they'd want would be access / potential for an accident.

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Postby DTO Luv » Tue Mar 24, 2009 2:20 pm

During the DT Master plan meetings last week this building came up a lot. I guess it's been bought by a developer that plans to do something with it. Good news. I bet the views up there would kick |expletive|.
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Postby windsor » Fri Mar 27, 2009 11:11 am

Brad wrote:Here is what I would do if I had some cash!

Brown = Redevelop parking in to garages with "raised" street level retail.  By raised like the sidewalk in front of Urban wine where it is above the street like an old dock.

Purple = Complete Redevelopment.  Rehab the cool buildings, bulldoze the junk!

Red = Extend the river walk all the way to Ricks.  May be another Ped Bridge to Harra's

Black = Not going anywhere, unfortunately.

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I never new the was so much under utilized space down there.  Its good to hear they are talking about this area in the master plan meetings!
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Postby iamjacobm » Fri Jan 25, 2013 3:31 pm

There was a crane and a bunch of earth movers just south of the old power plant today.  I assume it is something to do with the sewer separation work, just caught my eye driving down 10th.

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Postby mcarch » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:39 am

Has anyone ever been in Minneapolis and gone to the Mill City Museum next to the Guntheire Theater (spelling).  Across the street there are apartment buildings (whole Block).  The apartments are on the outside while in the interior is the parking garage.  On the first floors were Work/Commercial Spaces.  As you can see in this Photo.  This would be good for the Orange Areas as well as The areas by The Link and Stadium.

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Postby pseudoprometheus » Fri Feb 08, 2013 12:12 am

iamjacobm wrote:There was a crane and a bunch of earth movers just south of the old power plant today.  I assume it is something to do with the sewer separation work, just caught my eye driving down 10th.

I think you're right that it's related to the sewer separation project.  Most likely it's what they're calling the "South Interceptor Force Main Project", which was slated to start construction in 2012:  http://omahacso.com/projects/southinterceptor.html.  Unless they've finished already, a lift station/pump replacement is also taking place just south of there, past the railroad bridge:  http://omahacso.com/projects/leavenworthlsr.html.

We'll see more separation-related construction in that area again around 2020 since, according to the Executive Summary (http://omahacso.com/docs/OmahaLTCP_Executive_Summary.pdf), two proposed drop shaft sites are pretty close to that area.  (For those who aren't aware, plans for the separation project include laying a deep tunnel along the riverfront to deposit sewage overflow in a temporary holding basin instead of into the river untreated.)  So don't get too excited when the heavy machinery starts showing up again around then.  :)
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Postby Coyote » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:33 pm

Grow Omaha wrote:Redevelopment could be coming to one of downtown Omaha's last undeveloped parcels of Missouri Riverfront land. A former power plant at 505 Marcy Street is now offered for sale through a bid process in November. The eight-acre parcel is located immediately south/southeast of the ConAgra Foods, Inc. Campus and east of The Durham Museum. Potential buyers would most likely be interested in building a mixed-use project on the site.


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Mixed-use redevelopment opportunity. Being sold via bid process. ALL BIDS DUE BY 3:00 PM CST ON NOVEMBER 22, 2013. Property to be sold to best value as determined soley by the seller. PUBLIC WALK-THROUGH ANYTIME BETWEEN 8:30 AM and 4:00 PM CST ON OCTOBER 18, 2013 OR BY APPOINTMENT.

Waterfront location in Downtown Omaha just south of Conagra Campus.


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Postby iamjacobm » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:38 pm

Such a cool property, would probably take a lot of money and a pretty ambitious developer to tackle it though.

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Oct 21, 2013 5:40 pm

From what I saw of it when I worked at Gavilon, the place seems to be in rough shape...
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Postby Brad » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:09 pm

I just left the Barker Buding which was in super rough shape not very long ago and now it's beautiful...  All it takes is imagination and lots of money...
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Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 6:51 pm

Well, I don't know how much hope there is of anyone wanting to spend enough it would probably take...but at least it's something.
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Postby ItsAllAboutMe » Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:20 pm

There is at least two interested parties

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Postby iamjacobm » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:12 pm

ItsAllAboutMe wrote:There is at least two interested parties


Good to hear.

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Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:14 pm

ItsAllAboutMe wrote:There is at least two interested parties


So there's some promise.
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Postby Coyote » Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:19 pm

"Interested Parties" as in Developers?
I would think they would raze that building and develop the acreage from there.
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Postby Coyote » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:30 pm

After thinking about this location, traffic support is going to limit their development. How else couldn't you push traffic there?
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Postby iamjacobm » Mon Oct 21, 2013 11:45 pm

Coyote wrote:After thinking about this location, traffic support is going to limit their development. How else couldn't you push traffic there?


Thats what makes me think residential and office are the only remote possibilities here.  Commercial space doesn't make any sense.  Even office would take a company looking for a very unique space, not sure there is a demand for that in Omaha.  Residential could sell looking over the river and the skyline while being a little ways a way from the busier part of downtown.

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Postby Brad » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:18 am

In the past couple years, Rail Traffic on those tracks between the power plant and the river has really picked up.  Wonder if that would hurt development?

I still think someone with plenty of money and lots of patients could do a lot in this area.
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Postby ShawJ » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:21 pm

Looks prime for another arena.

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Postby Coyote » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:05 pm

Brad wrote:In the past couple years, Rail Traffic on those tracks between the power plant and the river has really picked up.  Wonder if that would hurt development?


Besides OWH, who else uses this spur?
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Postby Brad » Tue Oct 22, 2013 2:23 pm

Coyote wrote:
Brad wrote:In the past couple years, Rail Traffic on those tracks between the power plant and the river has really picked up.  Wonder if that would hurt development?


Besides OWH, who else uses this spur?


Well all the "new" traffic is for right next door.  There is a new "trans-loading facility" just south of the UP at 5th and Pierce.  They store cars in the yard that is right in front of the old power plant building.  I think most of those cars are delivered by the BNSF, but I am not positive.

Other traffic that passes by is for both the Union Pacific Railroad and the Canadian National Railroad (former the Illinois Central).

UP serves OPPD, MUD, OWH,  that grain elevator in North Downtown, as well as several industries up north of carter lake.
CN serves several industries east of carter lake.  They own the old Swing Bridge which is currently out of service so they use the UP and BNSF tracks to reach their customers.  They serve the steel plant as well as stuff south of Eppley (lots of tank cars).  

I believe both the UP and CN locals are working 5-6 days a week up there.  The OPPD coal trains vary.
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Postby Coyote » Fri Nov 22, 2013 9:45 am

ALL BIDS DUE BY 3:00 PM CST ON NOVEMBER 22, 2013.


>6 hours to go. I wonder how long before we get info on who won the bid for this property.
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Postby SaveOmaha » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:50 pm

Omaha by Design

According to Omaha by Design, NuStyle is attempting to rehab the old power plant. Can't imagine another historic property on the riverfront. This rumor has some validity to it. The news is toward the end of the article.

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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Dec 26, 2013 6:42 pm

OmahaJosh618 wrote:Omaha by Design

According to Omaha by Design, NuStyle is attempting to rehab the old power plant. Can't imagine another historic property on the riverfront. This rumor has some validity to it. The news is toward the end of the article.


Would love to see what they could do with this building!

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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:28 pm

Huge news!

http://www.wowt.com/news/headlines/OPPD-Selling-Downtown-Property-245421311.html

OPPD will sell a stretch of its property in downtown Omaha. The sale includes the utility's original generating facility - the Jones Street Station.

NuStyle Development Corporation will pay $100,000 for a 10-acre portion of property along 5th & Marcy.

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Postby Brad » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:38 pm

Awesome! Just wish there was more info if OPPD was keeping the substation portion of if its all going...

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Postby Coyote » Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:57 pm

Great to hear NUStyle is going to work on this.
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Postby Brad » Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:33 pm

Just looking at the GIS map, looks like the city built some sort of large storm structure in the lot???

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Re: Southern Riverfront - Old Power Plant

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:01 pm

Are those access points for the giant storm water tunnel they're building along the riverfront, as part of the sewer separation project?

If those are permanent, that further complicates an already crowded site plan. Rail tracks, an OPPD substation, now 2 access points for the storm sewer, never mind the concrete river levy system... Plus, some tough street access.


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