DTO Luv wrote:nebport5 wrote:here's a few bullet points from the latest DID meeting...
-Move buses off 16th St. to location just north of 480(as seen in downtown master plan)
-parallel parking, no diagonal
I think these are both bad ideas. Say what you want about the buses but I don't think that moving them away from the core of DT is the best idea. Is there some sort of plan for the buses beyond moving them to essentially the middle of nowhere north of 480? I don't see this helping anything transportation, it seems to be more about aesthetics. I went to the 16th St. Master Plan meeting awhile back and most people's complaints about the buses were people riding the buses. Well excuse people for needing public transportation.
The buses on 16th run close to many important places that people now have convenient access to. OPPD, MUD, the courthouse, library, etc. This doesn't seem to be well thought out. You're moving all of that activity away from 16th St. which is one place that needs all the help it can get. I see this coming back and biting us in the |expletive| in the future.
Also, parallel parking on 16th? Do people just want 16th St. to be a failure? There needs to be parking in the area but they could add so more with diagonal. This is just more of what DT already has problems with. Lack of public transportation and misuse of parking. It looks like I gave up hope in this city at the right time though.
I think you're passing judgement on this plan a bit too soon. Â I only list a brief thumb nail which Regis Resident expanded upon. Â However, you should really listen and see the whole plan in its entirety as each part play off another. Â As RR stated, the idea is to remove the move the idle buses from coughing up exhaust, on an already narrow traffic crowded street, all day in an area where we want more pedestrian traffic. Â Retaining this approach and adding more parking (diagonal) isn't going to make this area more pedestrian friendly. Â HDR also identified certain stretches of 16th street where more parking could be added (such as in front of OPPD and near the fire station) by having a narrower median with center of the street parallel parking. Â The relocated hub would only be 3 blocks to the north, where maybe a possible streetcar hub could be as that wouldn't be likely on 16th St. Â It would make a lot of senses to have a bus hub and streetcar hub close together. Â The 480 location isn't alaways going to be "in the middle of nowhere" and as north downtown continues to develop.