The Crossroads (72 & Dodge)

ShawJ · Post by **ShawJ** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:36 pm

Looks great. If this happens, I really hope momentum trickles down 72nd Street and the surrounding area.

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 4:48 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:The comments section of this story are fun reading. Most like it but as always there are those who see conspiracy.

From the comments:

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If this was such a "sure thing", the developers wouldn't need any public financing assistance. There is plenty of private money available for big projects that make economic sense. Unfortunately, this apparently isn't one of those or these developers are too small time to be good credit risks for banks. Don't believe that taxpayers aren't in the end responsible for the debt if this project fails despite what any elected official tells you. I wonder how Target fits into their upscale urban village concept? Target owns their building and the land it sits on. Given the current customer base for that store, that presents a real challenge for this upscale development. Mayor Stothert has now lost any support from me going forward and I'll never vote for her again for any office. She sold us out for future campaign donations from the developers, architects, engineers, construction companies, etc.

NovakOmaha · Post by **NovakOmaha** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:20 pm

He forgot to include in the donors the space people. You know, the ones this guy sees orbiting over his house at night.

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 5:25 pm

Looks like even Omaha has a healthy community of NIMBY's

S33 · Post by **S33** » Thu Jan 30, 2014 6:19 pm

I read some of those comments, and it really should be illegal for some people to talk about anything other than sports and reality TV.

One lady even had the audacity to say something like "Omaha doesn't have the funds to pull off a project of this scale, and that money belongs in North Omaha"

yeah, ok, lady.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 8:00 am

Article today mentioned that the hotel would be an Aloft brand.

Post by **Brad** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:45 am

Today's article also mentioned that Applebee's and Bestbuy are gone too!

Post by **Coyote** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:48 am

... But the Parking structure stays. Now if it gets improvements I have not heard.

Post by **Brad** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 10:49 am

Coyote wrote:... But the Parking structure stays. Now if it gets improvements I have not heard.

Its been staying all along.

Bugeater · Post by **Bugeater** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 11:50 am

I am curious as to how they talked Sears out of that sweetheart lease they are in.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:04 pm

Thought I would post the picture from the World Herald today since no one has yet.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 12:14 pm

The only things I don't like are the words 'future' and 'proposed.' Also, I know there's nothing they could have done, but I don't like the way Target fits in; or doesn't fit in more accurately... Otherwise looks good.

windsor · Post by **windsor** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:39 pm

What an absolutely stunning urban makeover. Right now we have a suburban dump. It's going to be fabulous to see this space transform over the next two years.

Post by **Coyote** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 1:56 pm

RNcyanide wrote:Also, I know there's nothing they could have done, but I don't like the way Target fits in; or doesn't fit in more accurately... Otherwise looks good.

I sort of like the way they have sort of partitioned Target and the parking garage from the rest of the project

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Fri Jan 31, 2014 4:07 pm

I'm not to worried about the proposed and future developments. There is only one building out of many they have marked for future development and all the rest will be built in the first phase. The building with proposed on it is marked so because that is the library and that would be built with city funds, not the developers. So whether or not that building comes to fruition is up to the city council.

omahahawk · Post by **omahahawk** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:50 am

OK, so to everyone who would like to see this project come to fruition I just want to be the first to say make sure you vote for it in May.

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:06 am

Let's be honest. I could easily see this bond getting rejected because of all the people in west Omaha voting no because it wouldn't affect them.

Post by **Coyote** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:30 am

lmdramos wrote:Let's be honest. I could easily see this bond getting rejected because of all the people in west Omaha voting no because it wouldn't affect them.

I could see that, but only if Stothert had alienated her support base... Which she hasn't... Yet.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 10:33 am

Putting this to a vote was a terrible idea. It'll end up just like a casino vote with no one actually knowing what the heck they are actually voting against.

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 4:18 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:Putting this to a vote was a terrible idea. It'll end up just like a casino vote with no one actually knowing what the heck they are actually voting against.

They probably had to do it as a matter of procedure.

guitarguy · Post by **guitarguy** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:12 pm

Do you really think people would vote to turn down a new development that would be replacing a ghost mall?

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 8:23 pm

guitarguy wrote:Do you really think people would vote to turn down a new development that would be replacing a ghost mall?

If people come to the wrong conclusions, they just might.

lmdramos · Post by **lmdramos** » Sat Feb 01, 2014 9:35 pm

I absolutely do. Sometime Omahans are not the best thinkers (including myself).

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:19 pm

lmdramos wrote:I absolutely do. Sometime Omahans are not the best thinkers (including myself).

Indeed.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Sun Feb 02, 2014 6:33 pm

guitarguy wrote:Do you really think people would vote to turn down a new development that would be replacing a ghost mall?

Yes, absolutely yes.

Linkin5 · Post by **Linkin5** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:50 am

This development looks nice, but it could use a moat.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 12:46 pm

I really like the new concept, and I'm really hoping the "No new taxes" crowd doesn't kill it. If Stothert is backing it strongly and campaigns for it on it's business merit, I could see it having a solid chance of passing, though.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 4:17 pm

Early website.

http://www.crossroadsomaha.com/

almighty_tuna · Post by **almighty_tuna** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:13 pm

Linkin5 wrote:This development looks nice, but it could use a moat.

Suppose if we built a large, wooden badger...

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 8:11 pm

Linkin5 wrote:This development looks nice, but it could use a moat.

And lasers.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 11:06 pm

jessep28 wrote:
Linkin5 wrote:This development looks nice, but it could use a moat.
And lasers.

And a different name. I suggest Batman Crossing.

MadMartin8 · Post by **MadMartin8** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:31 am

Batman Lake Crossing Pointe Village.... The III.

SaOmaha · Post by **SaOmaha** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:05 pm

Crossroad Village has been in news a lot lately. Site plan were published in the January 30th Omaha World-Herald is similar to concept plan published a year ago in the paper.

Concept (January 2013)

Latest site Plan

Crossroad Village is a cross between Midtown Crossing (Apartment and retails surround a park, single developer ) and Aksarben Village (Street grid). True both have a park, retails, office and apartments, but unlike them, do not have a movie theater.

I think the new North - South streets would be 74th & 75th. East - West Streets would be Capitol & Davenport.

I hope residents of Omaha vote yes for Crossroad Village!

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:05 pm

I hope they make the road in front of Target into a real street by adding sidewalks on both sides and minimizing entrances into the parking lot.

I doubt it will happen, but it would be ideal.

Busguy2010 · Post by **Busguy2010** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:55 pm

SaOmaha wrote:I think the new North - South streets would be 74th & 75th. East - West Streets would be Capitol & Davenport.

I think you are spot on about 74th, 75th and Capitol. There's a little wiggle room with the northern street. It could end up being Davenport, Chicago, or the widely unknown Wakeley.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:13 pm

Better street connectivity through there like the plans show would be awesome.

The latest site plan seems to show the buildings closer to Dodge, which I think will make it look a lot better. The big malls surrounded by oceans of parking always look desolate, and i think current trends towards the lifestyle centers and more mixed placement reflect a changing philosophy.

I doubt anything would happen between Target and their parking lot, since it's all their land.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:15 pm

Seth wrote:Better street connectivity through there like the plans show would be awesome.

The latest site plan seems to show the buildings closer to Dodge, which I think will make it look a lot better. The big malls surrounded by oceans of parking always look desolate, and i think current trends towards the lifestyle centers and more mixed placement reflect a changing philosophy.

I doubt anything would happen between Target and their parking lot, since it's all their land.

The only thing I could possibly see happening in front of Target would be if the city took some of the land for the BRT transit stop in a couple years from now.

Dusty · Post by **Dusty** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:43 pm

I wonder if the Target building could support adding on more floors? If they could add 2-3 floors on top of apartments and/or office space, that's would be cool. This concept would be similar construction to the Lerner building on 16th street.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Sun Feb 09, 2014 10:47 pm

Dusty wrote:I wonder if the Target building could support adding on more floors? If they could add 2-3 floors on top of apartments and/or office space, that's would be cool. This concept would be similar construction to the Lerner building on 16th street.

I doubt that that would be possible. Normally buildings are built with that ability in mind. For some reason I doubt Target regularly builds stores with the thought of putting apartments on top. I could be wrong though.

Seth · Post by **Seth** » Tue Feb 11, 2014 1:24 pm

Yeah, the Target is a very typical big-box structure. It's built with precast concrete exterior walls, and steel bar-joist roof structure on HSS columns. Anything above would need to be it's own separate structure, so it just wouldn't be practical. I'd put a pretty big bet on the Target and their parking lot looking like it does now for a long time to come.