GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:Wonder if that West Roads lobby was one of the ones who came to this forum to tell us how great West Roads is and how Oak View is doomed?
Ummmm, no. Both Oak View and Westroads have the same owner, General Growth.
Greg
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GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:Wonder if that West Roads lobby was one of the ones who came to this forum to tell us how great West Roads is and how Oak View is doomed?
Once Streets' moat is built around Oakview, the mall will be doomed.GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:Wonder if that West Roads lobby was one of the ones who came to this forum to tell us how great West Roads is and how Oak View is doomed?
Westroads is doing great and Oakview blows. I know this because I have working eyeballs and have been to both.GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:Wonder if that West Roads lobby was one of the ones who came to this forum to tell us how great West Roads is and how Oak View is doomed?
Since best buy left, I have a little more faith than I did a year ago. The boundaries are clearly defined now.PotatoeEatsFish wrote:Anyone else think this project won't happen? People are already upset at how much the city is spending on HDR and the Holland mess. If the developers want the city to pay millions for it you can consider it dead. Trust me I want this project to happen as much as the next guy I just still don't see it getting off the ground.
I seriously hope I look back on this a year later and feel like an idiot.
Oh I'm sure. but to start, I think they could make Oakview better by remodeling the grounds/outside retail by negotiating the area to make it a destination. I hardly find Oakview failing. But it is, however, not doing as well as Westroads.jessep28 wrote:From my understanding, anchor retailers at a lot of these shopping malls negotiated ridiculous leases which are hard to break. Replacing one Oakview anchor with another probably isn't feasible if the current tenant doesn't want to leave.
Oh yeah, we're getting Wallstreeted pretty good. I expect the old Best Buy to become some kind of Dragon and Sword outlet. It's funny that Crossroads Village was supposed to spur the development of the surrounding area. But it seems the area has started without Yates. Crossroads is definitely the glaring eyesore.MTO wrote:So Yates is either Wallstreeting or Shamrocking us which is fine but in the mean time the parking lots NEEDS resurfacing somn' fence. A friend and I just went to Applebee's and the craters nearly |expletive| the car up.
Watch out, whenever you say something bad about this development people freak out.choke wrote:Oh yeah, we're getting Wallstreeted pretty good. I expect the old Best Buy to become some kind of Dragon and Sword outlet. It's funny that Crossroads Village was supposed to spur the development of the surrounding area. But it seems the area has started without Yates. Crossroads is definitely the glaring eyesore.MTO wrote:So Yates is either Wallstreeting or Shamrocking us which is fine but in the mean time the parking lots NEEDS resurfacing somn' fence. A friend and I just went to Applebee's and the craters nearly |expletive| the car up.
I don't freak out, just shake my head an laugh now...PotatoeEatsFish wrote:Watch out, whenever you say something bad about this development people freak out.
Amen Brad! I completely agree ...Brad wrote:I don't freak out, just shake my head an laugh now...PotatoeEatsFish wrote:Watch out, whenever you say something bad about this development people freak out.
I give them the benefit of the doubt. We live in such a strange time where everyone wants everything right now. There is no patients for anything anymore, its just a compulsive, instant gratification society we live in.
Meanwhile, developments have become more complex, financing has become more complex, regulations and permits have become more complex. Developers just cant go make a handshake deal and start building, there are so many moving parts involved. There is a lot longer lead times on development now.
I would much rather them keep the existing mall open until they have all their ducks in a row. I think it would be worse if they were to tear the existing structure down and then let it sit as a dirt field for a year until they are ready to build.
All and all, I hope they take their time and do it right. Nothing would be worse for this location than they rushed in to something and we ended up with a half assed development.
Very true.. I still remember the old NW corner..and the Burger King and VIP car wash.. Oh and Putt-Putt Golf and the International House of Pies ...Coyote wrote:Yeah. look at how long Slosburg took at 90th and Center... and its still not done...
and that building that just said "computer games" on it. I never actually knew what that was. Was it an arcade at one point? It seemed closed down by the time I was old enough to remember driving by it.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Very true.. I still remember the old NW corner..and the Burger King and VIP car wash.. Oh and Putt-Putt Golf and the International House of Pies ...Coyote wrote:Yeah. look at how long Slosburg took at 90th and Center... and its still not done...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
I vaguely remember that "computer games" too. I'm pretty sure it was not an arcade though...omaha79 wrote:and that building that just said "computer games" on it. I never actually knew what that was. Was it an arcade at one point? It seemed closed down by the time I was old enough to remember driving by it.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Very true.. I still remember the old NW corner..and the Burger King and VIP car wash.. Oh and Putt-Putt Golf and the International House of Pies ...Coyote wrote:Yeah. look at how long Slosburg took at 90th and Center... and its still not done...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Always wondered what it was.
RockHarbor wrote:I've been patiently waiting on this whole project (like we all have). I haven't heard anything for awhile. I'm glad that Best Buy recently moved further West. I think that's a good sign. In the meantime, I'm ecstatic about the new Bucky's gas station and Hobby Lobby there now. It looks so much better. That is a very busy prime area of town, so it should look great, imo.
I have to say: As much as that new Target on 72nd & Dodge is very nice, I almost hate that it (and the large parking lot in front, and the parking garage behind) ruins any idea of a 100% "clean slate" there for designers. But, oh well... I think I would have loved to have the feeling of urban density with highrises near the corner of 72nd & Dodge, and stuff. Anyways, I like the overall plan as it is. I just wonder when they'll get it started?
Or hełł freezing over.nativeomahan wrote:Has anyone checked the Las Vegas oddsmakers to see which is favored to occur first, the Crossroads reconstruction or a new HDR headquarters?
nativeomahan wrote:Has anyone checked the Las Vegas oddsmakers to see which is favored to occur first, the Crossroads reconstruction or a new HDR headquarters?
Said the same person about Shamrock...MTO wrote:Well if time kills deals than I suppose the crossroads plan is a rotting corpse by now.
In the big scheme of things, I care 100% more about the Crossroads project getting started than anything HDR does outside of DT...unless they can help kick-start Crossroads.Greg S wrote:nativeomahan wrote:Has anyone checked the Las Vegas oddsmakers to see which is favored to occur first, the Crossroads reconstruction or a new HDR headquarters?
My money is on HDR announcing Boystown for it's HQ in the next 30 days. For Crossroads, nothing unfortunately.
Greg
Said part sarcastic part citing, I've heard "time kills deals" a lot ever since HDR's chickenshit pullout.Coyote wrote:Said the same person about Shamrock...MTO wrote:Well if time kills deals than I suppose the crossroads plan is a rotting corpse by now.
Maybe Gates and HDR can team up to redevelop Crossroads?Greg S wrote:Agreed. If HDR isn't building downtown then I'd rather see Crossroads start happening (provided it's not too scaled down).
Greg
HDR could have a 1/2 of 1/2 Name Brand Clothing on its ground floor for retail. That'd be awesome.daveoma wrote:Maybe Gates and HDR can team up to redevelop Crossroads?Greg S wrote:Agreed. If HDR isn't building downtown then I'd rather see Crossroads start happening (provided it's not too scaled down).
Greg
As well as the off-brand Yankee Candle shop and seasonal costume shop that's there now!! Maybe even a Halloween store!choke wrote:HDR could have a 1/2 of 1/2 Name Brand Clothing on its ground floor for retail. That'd be awesome.daveoma wrote:Maybe Gates and HDR can team up to redevelop Crossroads?Greg S wrote:Agreed. If HDR isn't building downtown then I'd rather see Crossroads start happening (provided it's not too scaled down).
Greg
Even better, the county fair.RNcyanide wrote:As well as the off-brand Yankee Candle shop and seasonal costume shop that's there now!! Maybe even a Halloween store!choke wrote:HDR could have a 1/2 of 1/2 Name Brand Clothing on its ground floor for retail. That'd be awesome.daveoma wrote:Maybe Gates and HDR can team up to redevelop Crossroads?Greg S wrote:Agreed. If HDR isn't building downtown then I'd rather see Crossroads start happening (provided it's not too scaled down).
Greg
Yep. I think this pretty much sums it up...Greg S wrote:The announcement and this thread started in 2011 so I don't think those of us complaining can necessarily all be included in the "I want it now crowd." I think 5 years is quite awhile. Yes I want it done right. That being said I am extremely frustrated with Yates. I think he wanted and believed he was going to get an incentive package similar to what he got at Gretna. That would have been great for him, but he does not have the leverage here that he did there. That's where my doubts come in.
Greg