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More dam plans. This time in NW Omaha by 168th & Fort. For more, click the dam link.

http://www.omaha.com/article/20121112/N ... g-activity
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Re: Dam Site 15A (168th and Fort)

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Here is a bunch of information on the new Dam Site 15A being designed at 168th and Forth Street.

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So.. if I'm correctly interpreting the 180-225 acre pool under normal conditions.. we're talking a lake that should be just a bit smaller than Zorinsky.
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So probably a dumb question, but why no dams on the main branches of the Papio? All of them are on tributaries.
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Now they really need to get 168th St north of Dodge fixed.

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bigredmed wrote:So probably a dumb question, but why no dams on the main branches of the Papio?  All of them are on tributaries.
I'm not an expert on the subject, but it would most likely take much larger reservoirs on the main Papio Branches to control flooding. The West Branches and Little Papio tie into the Big Papio within the Metro area, so it's too late to build reservoirs in areas already developed along the main Papio branches. It's' easier to catch the water in smaller reservoirs along the tributaries of the West Papio branches, Little Papio, and Big Papio and other northern tributaries. Plus It's easier to obtain 200-400 acre parcels of land too, and provides more more opportunities for recreation and development around multiple reservoirs.

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GetUrban wrote:
bigredmed wrote:So probably a dumb question, but why no dams on the main branches of the Papio?  All of them are on tributaries.
I'm not an expert on the subject, but it would most likely take much larger reservoirs on the main Papio Branches to control flooding. The West Branches and Little Papio tie into the Big Papio within the Metro area, so it's too late to build reservoirs in areas already developed along the main Papio branches. It's' easier to catch the water in smaller reservoirs along the tributaries of the West Papio branches, Little Papio, and Big Papio and other northern tributaries. Plus It's easier to obtain 200-400 acre parcels of land too, and provides more more opportunities for recreation and development around multiple reservoirs.

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Looks like construction on 15a will begin in a few weeks.
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Did they get everything OK with the land? I know they had the issue with the weird NRD Board Member trying to buy "surface" rights to the land. When I drove by recently they also still had for sale signs on the parcel at 168th and Fort.

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Greg S wrote:Did they get everything OK with the land?  I know they had the issue with the weird NRD Board Member trying to buy "surface" rights to the land.  When I drove by recently they also still had for sale signs on the parcel at 168th and Fort.

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The developer to its east said it was, so I guess he knows, their center point in his development will look across to the lake.
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I'm not sure how close this is to starting. The big for sale sign is still up at 168th and Fort. I drove along 168th from Fort until Ida. There's a ton of corn growing, and the farmer's house show's no signs of anyone moving out.

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Douglas County reluctantly OKs agreement for northwest Omaha dam site work

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Cody Winchester / World-Herald staff writer wrote:Tuesday, after weeks of delay, the County Board approved an agreement with the Papio-Missouri River Natural Resources District for roadwork at Dam Site 15A, a 225-acre reservoir and park planned for an area near 168th and Fort Streets.
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Let's get this Dam thing moving. :)


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Greg S wrote:Let's get this Dam thing moving. :)
Its moving, you can see a lot of dirt work from Fort Street.
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How will this size up to Prairy Queen?
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Much larger than Prairie Queen. I believe Prairie Queen's lake was just under 135 acres. We were told at a Home Owners meeting when this was announced (I live near 156th and Fort) that this lake would be about 225 acres, the total acres on site is 725. At the time they were comparing it to Standing Bear and saying it would be much larger than Standing Bear for frame of reference, since the two will be close to each other off of Fort St.

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Re: Dam Site 15A (168th and Fort)

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Here is a good link to some of the potential dam sites. It is a little old but gives you a good idea of what is out there. http://dataomaha.com/media/metro-dams/

Prairie Queen is 135 acres of water and 335 acres of green space. Site 15A will be 225 acres of water.
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Given its size will this still have a no wake rule?
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Brad wrote:
Greg S wrote:Let's get this Dam thing moving. :)
Its moving, you can see a lot of dirt work from Fort Street.

I meant to post that they had closed off Ida at 168th back in early May. I had forgotten there was a dam/lark coming in.


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Look at all that dam machinery.
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I have lake envy.

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If this dam project goes backwards it will be mad.
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Wow HDR does everything!
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There was supposed to be a Bucky's at 156th and Fort (even had a sign up). It never came to be. For this area, Kum and Go is not too far off at 168th north of Maple.

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Coyote wrote:Now they really need to get 168th St north of Dodge fixed.

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That looks like it is going to be nice long trail for walking\biking.
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Yeah will be nice to have it go all the way around.

Still can't believe they have not done something about the one at Standing Bear on 144th. Somebody will be seriously hurt or worse there at some point I'm afraid.

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Greg S wrote:Yeah will be nice to have it go all the way around.

Still can't believe they have not done something about the one at Standing Bear on 144th. Somebody will be seriously hurt or worse there at some point I'm afraid.

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I run at all of the Lakes and trails in and around Omaha and I am upset about the 144th Street side of Standing Bear. I love the lake, but it's so dangerous. I am training for a half marathon and talked some friends into running there with me. They aren't familiar with the lakes and thought it was extremely dangerous. I don't think they'll want to go back there. I personally will. Mostly because I am used to it, but it's sad that they can't put a sidewalk up and some guard rails.
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I am outdoorsy wrote:I run at all of the Lakes and trails in and around Omaha and I am upset about the 144th Street side of Standing Bear. I love the lake, but it's so dangerous. I am training for a half marathon and talked some friends into running there with me. They aren't familiar with the lakes and thought it was extremely dangerous. I don't think they'll want to go back there. I personally will. Mostly because I am used to it, but it's sad that they can't put a sidewalk up and some guard rails.
Wasn't Standing Bear one of the first Lakes in our system? I remember going there at least in the late 70's, when, there was nothing out there. At the time I am sure they never imagined Omaha developing around it, or the need to protect people from, traffic, of all things.
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I think Standing Bear and Cunningham were early in the process. Anybody know which came first?


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Greg S wrote:I think Standing Bear and Cunningham were early in the process. Anybody know which came first?
They both opened in 1977...
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I've wished they would make a side walk and put a guard rail up forever though. Does anyone know how you would go about getting it done?
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I'm afraid something tragic will happen before anything is done.

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I am outdoorsy wrote:I've wished they would make a side walk and put a guard rail up forever though. Does anyone know how you would go about getting it done?
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Thank you! I just emailed her. We will see what we can do. I love taking my kids out to the lakes. They ride bikes and I run. But I wouldn't ever take them on that side of Standing Bear!
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Back to Damsite 15A. Here are a couple photos I shot on Tuesday. My company engineered a Sanitary Sewer that will run along the east side of the lake.

No Dam built yet.

1. Looking South form Ida Street, Parking Lot in the foreground, "Fishing Structure" in the middle.
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2. Location of the new Ida Street Bridge
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The lake is filling up fast!

1. Looking NW towards the downstream side of the dam
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2. Looking NW
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3. Looking NW from further west.
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4. Looking west
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Did you see any new subdivision popping up around it brad?
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MTO wrote:Did you see any new subdivision popping up around it brad?
Boyer and Young has been building "Anchor Point" on the East side of the lake since last year.
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