Cloisters on the Platte

Post by **Coyote** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:59 am

Joe Ricketts 930 acre Retreat Center just south of the Holy Family Shrine and east of Schramm State Park is breaking ground this week

GRANDPASMUCKER · Post by **GRANDPASMUCKER** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 11:38 am

That is going to be grand indeed. Maybe 150 years from now when they get done with it they will give it to the state of Nebraska and we can call it Ricketts State Park.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:11 pm

What is it?

Post by **Coyote** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:47 pm

daveoma wrote:What is it?

A Retreat Center.

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:19 pm

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:That is going to be grand indeed. Maybe 150 years from now when they get done with it they will give it to the state of Nebraska and we can call it Ricketts State Park.

You're probably not far off in that guess.

vvindows10 · Post by **vvindows10** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:23 pm

Coyote wrote:A Retreat Center.

A place where sick people return if they do not get well the first time? Or that thing people do on Twitter?

Post by **Coyote** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:52 pm

vvindows10 wrote:
Coyote wrote:A Retreat Center.
A place where sick people return if they do not get well the first time? Or that thing people do on Twitter?

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by either of those...

RNcyanide · Post by **RNcyanide** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:02 pm

Coyote wrote:
vvindows10 wrote:
Coyote wrote:A Retreat Center.
A place where sick people return if they do not get well the first time? Or that thing people do on Twitter?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by either of those...

Patients who need to be retreated

'Retweet' (retreat) on twitter

U R my Helix · Post by **U R my Helix** » Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:47 pm

I really like the look of this building! It feels old just looking at it and I want to go inside and explore, the greenhouse is also inviting particularly with our Nebraska climate. I reminds me very much of an old mission that I toured years ago I think it was in Phoenix or someplace in California maybe Santa Barbara, just cant recall. I think it needs a large interior courtyard with a fountain and a plank walkway. At least those are things I recall about the Old Spanish Mission.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:53 am

Sounds like a place where people can go to rehab while going to church.

Erik · Post by **Erik** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:50 am

Is this a jesus camp?

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 2:40 pm

Erik wrote:Is this a jesus camp?

Pretty much.

iamjacobm · Post by **iamjacobm** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 8:59 am

https://www.omaha.com/news/metro/gretna ... b9d2a.html

The Cloisters on the Platte was 20 years in the making — and "really a lot of fun" to build, he said.

Ricketts, the founder of TD Ameritrade and father of Nebraska Gov. Pete Ricketts, won't say how much this undertaking cost him, but building permits filed with Sarpy County show that it cost at least $20 million. The property cost Ricketts an additional $13.6 million to purchase in 2014.

The completed retreat center, which is geared toward Catholics but open to all faiths, is akin to a country club mixed with an upscale summer camp. Guests will park in an underground parking garage designed to look like a cliff face. They'll take shuttles up the hill to the main retreat campus, featuring lakes, forest and sprawling, well-manicured lawns.

A chapel modeled after St. Margaret Mary Catholic Church in Omaha and massive main building sit on a small lake. Visible in the distance are seven guest lodges, each designed by a different architect. And across the lake, scattered throughout a 2,500-foot trail that winds through the trees and up and down hills, are life-size sculptures marking the 14 Stations of the Cross.

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 9:41 am

That place looks amazing. Here are a few of the pictures from the article showing the stations of the cross:

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm

Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?

skinzfan23 · Post by **skinzfan23** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:14 pm

PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?

It was built as a retreat center with private funds, so they should be able to do whatever they want.

OmahaOmaha · Post by **OmahaOmaha** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm

PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?

They call it a "retreat", but it's really a cult compound and Ricketts is the divine leader of the flock.

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:15 pm

OmahaOmaha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm
PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?
They call it a "retreat", but it's really a cult compound and Ricketts is the divine leader of the flock.

I freaking knew it, everyone will doubt us.
Stay woke.

RockHarbor · Post by **RockHarbor** » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:14 pm

I love the Mediterranean/Spanish look of that building! (Although Omaha probably doesn't justify that architectural style as much as Kansas City, Oklahoma City, or Dallas does, I've always wanted to see them build more of that style in Omaha. When you get from the Dakotas north into Canada and the Artic, then it is kinda out of place, imo. But, Omaha doesn't quite have that "far frozen North" feeling, and still can pull it off. Some of my favorite architecture is of that style.) At first I was confused what this really was to, until I read the explanations. I could totally tell that was a Catholic Church, at first glance, by the design cues & elements.

Omababe · Post by **Omababe** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:49 am

Coyote wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:59 amJoe Ricketts 930 acre Retreat Center just south of the Holy Family Shrine and east of Schramm State Park

Sure you don't mean east of Mahoney?

South of Holy Family Shrine would be (north)west of Schramm.

Post by **nebugeater** » Fri Jul 13, 2018 8:39 am

Omababe wrote: ↑Fri Jul 13, 2018 5:49 am
Coyote wrote: ↑Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:59 amJoe Ricketts 930 acre Retreat Center just south of the Holy Family Shrine and east of Schramm State Park
Sure you don't mean east of Mahoney?

South of Holy Family Shrine would be (north)west of Schramm.

FirebirdEngineer · Post by **FirebirdEngineer** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 9:52 am

PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?

Every time I hear about this project, it gives me nothing but sketchy feelings about the whole thing, especially with Ricketts being the founder for the whole thing. The amount of money pouring into this project doesn't make a lick of sense to me, either. Engineers I've talked to that worked on it told me it was treated as an "unlimited budget" project, allowing designers to do whatever they wanted.

edsas · Post by **edsas** » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm

Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.

FirebirdEngineer · Post by **FirebirdEngineer** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am

edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.

It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:15 am

FirebirdEngineer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am
edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.
It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.

Lets call this thing what it is. Rich and powerful old people have been trying to buy their way into Heaven for thousands of years.

Louie · Post by **Louie** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:05 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:15 am
FirebirdEngineer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am
edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.
It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.
Lets call this thing what it is. Rich and powerful old people have been trying to buy their way into Heaven for thousands of years.

Exactly. Or maybe it’s some tax loophole thing.

FirebirdEngineer · Post by **FirebirdEngineer** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:59 pm

Louie wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 12:05 pm
GrandpaaSmucker wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:15 am
FirebirdEngineer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am
edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.
It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.
Lets call this thing what it is. Rich and powerful old people have been trying to buy their way into Heaven for thousands of years.
Exactly. Or maybe it’s some tax loophole thing.

I wouldn't be surprised if it's a little of column A, a little of column B.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:36 pm

PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:15 pm
OmahaOmaha wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm
PotatoeEatsFish wrote: ↑Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm Why do they need that massive building for a summer camp? This whole thing just confuses me, is it going to be some catholic convention center?
They call it a "retreat", but it's really a cult compound and Ricketts is the divine leader of the flock.
I freaking knew it, everyone will doubt us.
Stay woke.

I totally agree with you. Why do rich people need to go to a luxurious place far from poverty to find spiritual bliss? Maybe it's not spiritual, maybe it's a refuge away from people with REAL problems.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:36 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:15 am
FirebirdEngineer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am
edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.
It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.
Lets call this thing what it is. Rich and powerful old people have been trying to buy their way into Heaven for thousands of years.

I KNEW YOU WERE ONE OF US GRANDPA!!!

STAY WOKE!

Post by **Coyote** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:02 pm

Feudal Lords built dozens of monasteries throughout Europe so they would have people praying for the repose of their souls in perpetuity. Lord Ricketts is just following history.

FirebirdEngineer · Post by **FirebirdEngineer** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:03 pm

daveoma wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 4:36 pm
GrandpaaSmucker wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 8:15 am
FirebirdEngineer wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 2:06 am
edsas wrote: ↑Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:39 pm Kind of weird that people feel creeped out by this place. I think it's gorgeous and a nice addition to the metro. Then again, I'm Catholic so religious places don't bother me, I guess.
It's not that it's a religious site that weirds me out, it's the stupidly immense sums of money being shoveled into the project.
Lets call this thing what it is. Rich and powerful old people have been trying to buy their way into Heaven for thousands of years.
I KNEW YOU WERE ONE OF US GRANDPA!!! STAY WOKE!

Never in my life did I think I'd be in agreement with Grandpa over anything!

jessep28 · Post by **jessep28** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:06 pm

Nobody bats an eye when a city spends over $120 million in public tax money to build a baseball stadium that's largely used only two weeks out of the year. But when private funds are used to build a Roman Catholic retreat compound, that's crossing the line.

EastCB · Post by **EastCB** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:08 pm

jessep28 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:06 pm Nobody bats an eye when a city spends over $120 million in public tax money to build a baseball stadium that's largely used only two weeks out of the year. But when private funds are used to build a Roman Catholic retreat compound, that's crossing the line.

It's his money, he can do what he wants. Who made you all in charge of his money???

EastCB · Post by **EastCB** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:09 pm

AND, I am not Catholic!

GrandpaaSmucker · Post by **GrandpaaSmucker** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:38 pm

I saw some of that Cloisters on the Platte bread but never bought any. Its just Rotellas. I wonder if that genius idea is dead yet or are they going to make millions off it

Cloisters Bread Article- https://www.omaha.com/news/metro/joe-ri ... 663b9.html

PotatoeEatsFish · Post by **PotatoeEatsFish** » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:53 pm

I refuse to eat bread now.

ricko · Post by **ricko** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:46 am

EastCB wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:09 pm AND, I am not Catholic!

Yet!

Fr. Ignatius O'Flaherty Loyola S.J., B.F.D.

damonhynes · Post by **damonhynes** » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:58 am

jessep28 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:06 pm Nobody bats an eye when a city spends over $120 million in public tax money to build a baseball stadium that's largely used only two weeks out of the year. But when private funds are used to build a Roman Catholic retreat compound, that's crossing the line.

Bingeaux.

daveoma · Post by **daveoma** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:19 pm

ricko wrote: ↑Mon Jul 16, 2018 1:46 am
EastCB wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:09 pm AND, I am not Catholic!
Yet!

Fr. Ignatius O'Flaherty Loyola S.J., B.F.D.

ThatGuy · Post by **ThatGuy** » Sun Jul 22, 2018 5:55 pm

jessep28 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 15, 2018 5:06 pm Nobody bats an eye when a city spends over $120 million in public tax money to build a baseball stadium that's largely used only two weeks out of the year. But when private funds are used to build a Roman Catholic retreat compound, that's crossing the line.

They both can be bad.