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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby choke » Fri Oct 07, 2016 10:17 pm

MTO wrote:Talk about paving paradise..

This, Crossroads, The Golden Mile, Rivers Edge, Civic Site, eventually Lot B... I'm amazed a city this small can pull so much off.


Not to mention, I believe on Grow Omaha, I heard a representative from the Med Center saying plans were in the works for UNMC to build their own village - bigger than Midtown Crossing but smaller than AV.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Erik » Fri Oct 07, 2016 11:36 pm

20 year max, 85% buildout projected with 8 years.

Hopes to start grading in the spring. Much fewer loopholes and delay potential given the SID with no TIF or tax break agreements.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby MadMartin8 » Sat Oct 08, 2016 7:46 am

Erik wrote:20 year max, 85% buildout projected with 8 years.

Hopes to start grading in the spring. Much fewer loopholes and delay potential given the SID with no TIF or tax break agreements.


That sounds pretty good to me. I just hope it stays true to the vision throughout.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby OverlookedFarm » Sat Oct 15, 2016 12:50 pm

Stick a fork in it. It's done. Corn is in the hopper. West Farm is now retired.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby buildomaha » Sat Oct 15, 2016 2:44 pm

Not really educated in any way on the subject but...
What is actually a good solution for the traffic Dodge already has and how much more its going to have when this is completed? Will the city be willing to but in light rail at that point in time or would they come up with some other radical solution?!

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Busguy2010 » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:44 pm

buildomaha wrote:Not really educated in any way on the subject but...
What is actually a good solution for the traffic Dodge already has and how much more its going to have when this is completed? Will the city be willing to but in light rail at that point in time or would they come up with some other radical solution?!


There's only so much room left to widen. Maybe you could get one additional lane in each direction. So what it should come down to is which mode will benefit the most in the long term with the respect to cost. I think Omaha would outgrow an eight lane HWY 6 in relatively short time.

In approximately the same amount of room, you could put two light rail tracks. The question is: Would Light rail move enough people and provide enough economic development to justify the cost? Some will say absolutely, some will say absolutely not.

In respect to the size of this development and the density involved with it, Light rail would be the way to go.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby OverlookedFarm » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:17 pm

I'll be real curious how they may 150th work. It sounds like they are going to have to re build the intersection to accommodate the EB dodge offramp. Lights are going to have to go in on both sides, I would imagine they would one 2 lanes on the bridge heading south.

Its going to move quick. I bet that once the beans are off. Prelim grading for the intersection happens. I did get some information today about the sediment project on the east slope of the property towards 144th. I guess that project (sometime in 2008), was a sediment project from Boys Town Lake. They pumped all the sediment and goose |expletive| to the farm property and let it dry out there. Thats why its soft there.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby MTO » Sat Oct 15, 2016 10:42 pm

They really should just delete the 150th option and space the interchanges out more.

And just for fun make 144th a diverging diamond.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby yellowcolumbia » Mon Oct 17, 2016 12:11 pm

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby guest2017 » Mon Oct 24, 2016 7:34 am

MTO wrote:They really should just delete the 150th option and space the interchanges out more.

And just for fun make 144th a diverging diamond.


They just completely redid 144th in 2013/4? Makes that kind of a waste then.

Also, I have never seen enough traffic on this street to assume a DDI is necessary. Put in a similar style intersection on 150th, with dedicated turn lanes between southbound traffic exiting dodge to 144th and the new development, with dual-turn lanes in each direction (like they did going into Aksarben Village). You guys are all way too concerned with the amount of traffic that this is going to get. It won't be any worse than Village Point, and should have better flow throughout. The major problem isn't more traffic on dodge, but more traffic within/poorly designed layout.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby buildomaha » Mon Oct 24, 2016 9:19 pm

guest2017 wrote:
MTO wrote:They really should just delete the 150th option and space the interchanges out more.

And just for fun make 144th a diverging diamond.


They just completely redid 144th in 2013/4? Makes that kind of a waste then.

Also, I have never seen enough traffic on this street to assume a DDI is necessary. Put in a similar style intersection on 150th, with dedicated turn lanes between southbound traffic exiting dodge to 144th and the new development, with dual-turn lanes in each direction (like they did going into Aksarben Village). You guys are all way too concerned with the amount of traffic that this is going to get. It won't be any worse than Village Point, and should have better flow throughout. The major problem isn't more traffic on dodge, but more traffic within/poorly designed layout.


This is going to be a much larger project than Village Point, but it is estimated to take at least 20 years to complete. So in my view, traffic will probably be an issue, but at the same time, by the time it fills out there should be some solution to the traffic issues that it may have.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Mon Oct 24, 2016 11:41 pm

Omaha's traffic will be exasperated much more in the next 20 years from fringe sprawl than this development.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Joe_Sovereign » Tue Oct 25, 2016 5:17 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Omaha's traffic will be exasperated much more in the next 20 years from fringe sprawl than this development.


In 2036 you will be able to request a driverless flying uber from your smart implant and be anywhere in the city in ten minutes. Although you won't have anywhere to go and no money to pay for it because artificial intelligence and robotics will have raised human unemployment to 80%.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Joe_Sovereign » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:09 pm

There is a sign up for this development along Dodge with the name "West Farm" on it. I truly hope this isn't the name they are actually going with.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:48 pm

I suggest The Collection of Reserve at the Villages Shoppes Fountain District. Covers all the bases.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Turtle9160 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:54 pm

Joe_Sovereign wrote:There is a sign up for this development along Dodge with the name "West Farm" on it. I truly hope this isn't the name they are actually going with.


They have signs up on 144th as well, the one between Pacific and Dodge says "West Farm" but the one on the southwest corner of 144th and Pacific says "South Farm". Guess there going with "Farm" for it, and I hope its not the name they actually go with either

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby buildomaha » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:06 pm

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Joe_Sovereign wrote:There is a sign up for this development along Dodge with the name "West Farm" on it. I truly hope this isn't the name they are actually going with.


They have signs up on 144th as well, the one between Pacific and Dodge says "West Farm" but the one on the southwest corner of 144th and Pacific says "South Farm". Guess there going with "Farm" for it, and I hope its not the name they actually go with either


I agree. Very tacky and especially typicizing of Nebraska...

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Coyote » Tue Dec 20, 2016 10:15 pm

You know, it was a very historic local farm for many years. :shrug: just saying. Read the title of this thread.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby nebugeater » Wed Dec 21, 2016 6:25 am

buildomaha wrote:
Turtle9160 wrote:
Joe_Sovereign wrote:There is a sign up for this development along Dodge with the name "West Farm" on it. I truly hope this isn't the name they are actually going with.


They have signs up on 144th as well, the one between Pacific and Dodge says "West Farm" but the one on the southwest corner of 144th and Pacific says "South Farm". Guess there going with "Farm" for it, and I hope its not the name they actually go with either


I agree. Very tacky and especially typicizing of Nebraska...


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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby nebraska » Wed Dec 21, 2016 10:07 am

When I hear West Farms, I think of this mall in Connecticut, Google maps.

So hearing new-agey commercial names like West Farms on Dodge Street does not sit well with me. Might as well just call it Jordan Creek II.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Erik » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:14 am

I dont see the problem with it at all. Not embarrassing an actually pretty cool imo. Not everything related to farms is shaming.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby buildomaha » Wed Dec 21, 2016 11:31 am

I'm just saying for something that's supposed to be an urban core for west O, "West Farm" does not really fit the area and what it represents.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby HR Paperstacks » Wed Dec 21, 2016 1:09 pm

buildomaha wrote:I'm just saying for something that's supposed to be an urban core for west O, "West Farm" does not really fit the area and what it represents.

I'm with Erik. I don't see a problem with the name.

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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:26 pm

I think they're missing a big opportunity to have it be 'West Farme'.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby choke » Wed Dec 21, 2016 3:52 pm

RNcyanide wrote:I think they're missing a big opportunity to have it be 'West Farme'.



West Farme Centre

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby HR Paperstacks » Wed Dec 21, 2016 4:21 pm

choke wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I think they're missing a big opportunity to have it be 'West Farme'.



West Farme Centre

West Farnam Centre could actually work

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby nebugeater » Wed Dec 21, 2016 5:45 pm

HR Paperstacks wrote:
choke wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I think they're missing a big opportunity to have it be 'West Farme'.



West Farme Centre

West Farnam Centre could actually work



That's so 2015....
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:58 am

Not sure if it matters, but the sign actually says "west farm" in all lower case letters

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Postby MTO » Tue Dec 27, 2016 10:17 am

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby GetUrban » Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:45 pm

"west farm" seems to have legs....looks like that's what it will be known as for eternity.

I'm just glad Heartland ________ didn't make the cut.
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Postby MadMartin8 » Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:42 pm

GetUrban wrote:"west farm" seems to have legs....looks like that's what it will be known as for eternity.

I'm just glad Heartland ________ didn't make the cut.


Heartland Farms at Town Centre.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby lonnie » Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:03 pm

buildomaha wrote:
Turtle9160 wrote:
Joe_Sovereign wrote:There is a sign up for this development along Dodge with the name "West Farm" on it. I truly hope this isn't the name they are actually going with.


They have signs up on 144th as well, the one between Pacific and Dodge says "West Farm" but the one on the southwest corner of 144th and Pacific says "South Farm". Guess there going with "Farm" for it, and I hope its not the name they actually go with either


I agree. Very tacky and especially typicizing of Nebraska...

The Stanford University campus has always been referred to as "The Farm" and has not held it back.

"THE FARM Campus nickname, derived from the days when horses rather than students roamed in what previously was the farm of university founders Leland and Jane Stanford."

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Garrett » Tue Dec 27, 2016 5:42 pm

MadMartin8 wrote:
GetUrban wrote:"west farm" seems to have legs....looks like that's what it will be known as for eternity.

I'm just glad Heartland ________ didn't make the cut.


Heartland Farms at Town Centre.

BOOM.

You forgot "European"

Heartland Farms at the European Town Centre.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby OverlookedFarm » Mon Mar 06, 2017 10:43 am

Im sure you saw the owh today. Removal of trees to start today and must be completed by april 1.

The staked the lot lines last week. Marked all utilities the week before.

Apparently mnhs has been given a traffic plan notice and timeline. Not sure on the specifics

Boys town has moved most if not all of their farm equip from west farm to southeast farm. Not sure if the garden office or cannery garages have been emptied yet.


Noddle did say they were going to do a tree survey, not sure what those reults were.

Does anybody know where to get info on the project? Noddles website is thin on details, and he said he was going to keep stakeholders aware of news as it comes avail. Im just using my mk 1 eyeballs

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Thu Mar 16, 2017 3:58 pm

The entire master plan was included in the zoning request. Tons of info.

https://cityclerk.cityofomaha.org/images/agenda/ID_17_03_21w/Planning_Zoning/371.pdf

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Garrett » Thu Mar 16, 2017 5:37 pm

iamjacobm wrote:The entire master plan was included in the zoning request. Tons of info.

https://cityclerk.cityofomaha.org/images/agenda/ID_17_03_21w/Planning_Zoning/371.pdf

Highlights:

On page 23:

"In total, the development will include over 1,400,000 square feet of office space, 819,000 square feet of retail, a 300 room hotel, 1,600 apartments, 144 townhouses, and 290 single family homes. One third of the total are will be devoted to parks, trails, and recreation areas."

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"Here, the residential neighborhoods set themselves apart by creating a walkable environment based on the finest Omaha neighborhoods from the early 20th century. The houses will be modeled after Omaha's great Tudor, Craftsman, and Colonial houses. Garages will be alley loaded so that streets can be lined with porches, authentic facades, and gardens instead of garage doors."
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Fri Mar 17, 2017 10:59 am

Garrett wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:The entire master plan was included in the zoning request. Tons of info.

https://cityclerk.cityofomaha.org/images/agenda/ID_17_03_21w/Planning_Zoning/371.pdf

Highlights:

On page 23:

"In total, the development will include over 1,400,000 square feet of office space, 819,000 square feet of retail, a 300 room hotel, 1,600 apartments, 144 townhouses, and 290 single family homes. One third of the total are will be devoted to parks, trails, and recreation areas."

Page 29:

"Here, the residential neighborhoods set themselves apart by creating a walkable environment based on the finest Omaha neighborhoods from the early 20th century. The houses will be modeled after Omaha's great Tudor, Craftsman, and Colonial houses. Garages will be alley loaded so that streets can be lined with porches, authentic facades, and gardens instead of garage doors."


Thanks for digging some stuff out. I didn't have a chance to read into it too much.


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