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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby RockHarbor » Fri Apr 15, 2016 3:14 am

"Crossroads Village" down the street from "Aksarben Village?" Does "Crossroads" have any meaning to people 20 and under? "Dodge At 72nd" is a type name I like better, drawing from the excitement of the iconic, special Omaha intersection. My $.02.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby jessep28 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:28 am

Can the city just take over those farm parcels, or will they have to annex Boys Town all together? All that farm ground is incorporated.
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Postby guest2016 » Fri Apr 15, 2016 10:38 am

jessep28 wrote:Can the city just take over those farm parcels, or will they have to annex Boys Town all together? All that farm ground is incorporated.


They will no longer be part of Boys Town, which will allow the parcels to be annexed at a point when it makes financial sense to the city. Boys Town proper will remain a separate entity within the city - just as it always has been.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Fri Apr 15, 2016 12:37 pm

Ben wrote:Plus, none of this land is "shovel ready" - its all pure farmland, with no water/sewer/electrical service. That's a relatively large expense that the developer will have to foot. Nevermind the timeline that this will take to accomplish. If this truly is HDR, as everyone's assuming, they'll really need to kick it into overdrive, as they were barely able to hit their required timelines downtown, and that was with all of the infrastructure relatively easily connectable.


^ This..

And it's a great point. Unless we have people who are "in the board room" during HDR's decision as to where they'll locate, all we can do here is purely speculate. I have no clue where they'll wind up. He!!, just 3 weeks ago, I was imagining how their new Downtown HQ building would look along the skyline next to the Capitol District..then that vision went "POOF"..

I still hold out hope, as faint as I believe it is, HDR will find their way back into downtown..

In any case, I predict we should know something within the next 5 business days (by next Friday)...

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby OmahaOmaha » Fri Apr 15, 2016 2:14 pm

This is where the mega mixed-use european village development will be.

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Postby nebraska » Fri Apr 15, 2016 5:27 pm

OmahaOmaha wrote:This is where the mega mixed-use european village development will be.


Oh you.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby yellowcolumbia » Sun Apr 17, 2016 8:39 am

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OverlookedFarm wrote:There has been strong rumor for 2 years that this was going to be sold. However, the DeMarco property was the plot twist. St. Wenceslaus was in sort of a gentlemans agreement to buy part of that property to expand and build a new church. I guess that went out the window.


St Wenceslaus is building a new church. It's $27 million, $10 million was donated by Wayne and Eileen Ryan. They are having a ground breaking ceremony on May 5. That's on part of the DeMarco land.


The new St Wenceslaus would be on the land SOUTH of Pacific? Correct ?

That is correct, south of pacific, next to the existing compound.
I'm pretty sure that a May groundbreaking would have to do with the school addition that is coming first. The new church is further off.


This mornings bulletin confirms that the May 5th groundbreaking is for the school addition. Six new classrooms, to be open for the 2017-2018 school year.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby RockHarbor » Sun Apr 17, 2016 3:01 pm

Does that family still live on the farmhouse on that land? Here, I'm eyeing it closer when I'm in that area of town, and I just noticed a woody patch or section that looked like an area where a farmhouse sits within trees -- not too far from Millard North on Pacific. But, I couldn't get a good look from 144th. Anyways, so the church is getting started, but when is the rest of the land going to get streets & stuff?
"Crossroads Village" down the street from "Aksarben Village?" Does "Crossroads" have any meaning to people 20 and under? "Dodge At 72nd" is a type name I like better, drawing from the excitement of the iconic, special Omaha intersection. My $.02.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby OverlookedFarm » Sun Apr 17, 2016 9:33 pm

RockHarbor wrote:Does that family still live on the farmhouse on that land? Here, I'm eyeing it closer when I'm in that area of town, and I just noticed a woody patch or section that looked like an area where a farmhouse sits within trees -- not too far from Millard North on Pacific. But, I couldn't get a good look from 144th. Anyways, so the church is getting started, but when is the rest of the land going to get streets & stuff?


Yes, the original OWH article updated to say that the Demarco's are still going to live on the property in the house. This was part of the arrangement.

I would imagine it would take 10+ years to get all of this developed, much like the FNB business park (new in 1997, still not fully developed, lots in front of Bank of the West and the east wing of First National Bank (graded, not completed). I can't see Boys Town and the Demarco's agreeing to anything that doesn't "fit" the neighborhood, which will limit the development to commercial office space, retirement communities, lower key retail.

Again, I think folks are a bit overzealous on how fast this will move along. There is a a lot of area still available in the general area. Sterling Ridge (Ironwood GC), Blumkin Farm (property next to Costco), The lots owned by AGP next to their building on Dodge, and the vacant space in Seville and Westside Church. And, if you go futher east, the entire 114th st corridor where Bag and Slave was. That is prime spot for office.

Let's also not forget that Miracle Hills GC has mulled sale for many years.

Getting too far south towards Center is getting low rent nowdays. Seems no amount of investment in retail and commercial space can turn that area around.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby RockHarbor » Mon Apr 18, 2016 12:41 am

OverlookedFarm wrote:Yes, the original OWH article updated to say that the Demarco's are still going to live on the property in the house. This was part of the arrangement.

I would imagine it would take 10+ years to get all of this developed, much like the FNB business park (new in 1997, still not fully developed, lots in front of Bank of the West and the east wing of First National Bank (graded, not completed). I can't see Boys Town and the Demarco's agreeing to anything that doesn't "fit" the neighborhood, which will limit the development to commercial office space, retirement communities, lower key retail.

Again, I think folks are a bit overzealous on how fast this will move along. There is a a lot of area still available in the general area. Sterling Ridge (Ironwood GC), Blumkin Farm (property next to Costco), The lots owned by AGP next to their building on Dodge, and the vacant space in Seville and Westside Church. And, if you go futher east, the entire 114th st corridor where Bag and Slave was. That is prime spot for office.

Let's also not forget that Miracle Hills GC has mulled sale for many years.

Getting too far south towards Center is getting low rent nowdays. Seems no amount of investment in retail and commercial space can turn that area around.


Oh. I always think that is interesting when somebody sells their land for suburban development, but then end up keeping a small patch of land w/ their original house intact. They must be really attached to the place. I see that type thing here & there throughout suburban Omaha (like near Staple Chase Apts on Maple, like the house near 192nd & Harrison). However, I know of a family that lived out near Bennington on a farm (as a teen, I helped them spray beans), and once suburbia reached them, they sold off the land, and now live in a bigger, nicer house.

Yeah, it is a pretty big patch of land to develop, and I think 10 years sounds about right. I know the owner said something about not selling...unless people were "good stewards of the land." I get that concept, but I don't understand who wouldn't be "good stewards of the land", if sold for a typical office park, school, shopping center, subdivision, or apartments. Wouldn't any of those typical things qualify for "good stewardship?" I've been thinking about that since I read it. I'm just wondering what kind of examples he would object to. Just curious...
"Crossroads Village" down the street from "Aksarben Village?" Does "Crossroads" have any meaning to people 20 and under? "Dodge At 72nd" is a type name I like better, drawing from the excitement of the iconic, special Omaha intersection. My $.02.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue May 03, 2016 10:22 pm

Well, it's not HDR..

From the W-H:

"A part of Warren Buffett’s empire is behind the planned transformation of a nearly 500-acre tract that includes high-profile Boys Town farmland near 144th Street and West Dodge Road.

Applied Underwriters Inc., acquired a decade ago by Omaha-based Berkshire Hathaway, is finalizing a contract to buy the undeveloped land from Boys Town and the DeMarco family, Omaha developer Jay Noddle told The World-Herald.

On a piece of the vast farm area, Applied Underwriters intends to build a new hub for its local workforce of between 650 and 700. The rest is to become more offices, shops, housing, restaurants, hotel rooms, public space and more.

Said Noddle: “These are spectacular pieces of property that, developed together, will be a tremendous addition to the Omaha community.”

Noddle, whose firm was tapped to be master developer, said Applied Underwriters will retain an executive headquarters in the San Francisco Bay area but wanted an investment opportunity and updated digs for its main business operation, which has been in Omaha since 1998..."

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http://www.omaha.com/money/applied-unde ... l?mode=jqm

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Applied Underwriters, part of Berkshire Hathaway, is company planning to develop Boys Town farmland near 144th, West Dodge

Cindy Gonzalez - World-Herald staff writer wrote:On a piece of the vast farm area, Applied Underwriters intends to build a new hub for its local workforce of between 650 and 700. The rest is to become more offices, shops, housing, restaurants, hotel rooms, public space and more.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby 43county » Tue May 03, 2016 10:26 pm

This won't do anything to quiet the NFM rumors.

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Postby iamjacobm » Tue May 03, 2016 11:18 pm

Great anchor.

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Postby Brad » Wed May 04, 2016 7:41 am

I am glad it's all being developed together by someone with some with some good mixed use experience. It would be see this much open space pieced together with no real master plan.
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Postby MTO » Wed May 04, 2016 10:33 pm

KETV's story on the Applied Underwriters announcement.

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Postby OverlookedFarm » Sat May 07, 2016 9:14 am

Planting the last crop this morning, cultivated last night. Btpd posted up at farm.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge) up for redevelopment

Postby charlie123 » Tue May 10, 2016 10:32 am

HDR was offered (By Applied Underwriters) the corner/highest profile parcel (144th & Dodge) as Applied Underwriters wants to build further back on either parcel (DeMarco or Boystown). This was before they decided to build downtown...then since backed out of that deal. The article a couple months ago hinted that HDR still have the option. The land purchase had to first have Warren's approval. If and perhaps NFM is looking to relocate, as a BRK company, they would be given the option first as they would require a significant portion of either property. Applied Underwriters is planning on building 3 office buildings similar to those in the Old Mill Business Park which they leased after First Data vacated them over 12 years ago to move to Aksarben.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby RockHarbor » Sat May 14, 2016 2:50 pm

It's going to be nice to have 144th lined with office buildings, restaurants, businesses, ect., along there. I'm so used that gap of country through there, between NW Omaha and the Millard area. It will be nice to have it all connect as a continual suburbanscape. I met a lady here that moved here from California, and lives in suburban Omaha, and she thought this seemed like the countryside at first. You almost can't blame her with this big chunk of farm fields & trees & farm in the center of suburban Omaha.
"Crossroads Village" down the street from "Aksarben Village?" Does "Crossroads" have any meaning to people 20 and under? "Dodge At 72nd" is a type name I like better, drawing from the excitement of the iconic, special Omaha intersection. My $.02.

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Tue Sep 27, 2016 1:31 pm

Noddle with a rezoning request for the land SW of 144th and Pacific. Gears are cranking here.

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Postby zippy » Mon Oct 03, 2016 2:26 pm

I received an email telling about a "Developer Town Hall Meeting" on 10/3 at 6:30pm at St Wenceslaus Church. It reads "The purpose of this meeting is for Noddle Companies to present the details of the proposed development to adjacent home owners, community associations and stake holder, and to provide an opportunity to answer questions".

I'm hoping to attend. Does anybody have any useful questions to ask?

There also a meeting on Thursday, 10/6, at 6:30pm at Common Ground called "Mayor Town Hall Meeting". It seems like it will focus on District 6.

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Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Mon Oct 03, 2016 3:37 pm

zippy wrote:I'm hoping to attend. Does anybody have any useful questions to ask?

Do they plan to widen 144th street?

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Postby OverlookedFarm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 7:41 am

From the meeting;
1. Boulevard will connect 150th dodge to pine street at 144th.
2. Will be east bound off ramp from dodge, reconfig intersections.
3. Grading will be done in one swipe, start may 2017, finish following year.
4. Ped bridge like the one on memorial park will cross pacific on west edge of boys town propperty
5. Additional access to mnhs off boulevard through existing fb practice fields
6. Applied underwriters will be in center of south farm, built for room for expansion
7. Noddle plans to try to maintain or move some west farm buildings (granary and harvestore where depicted) as part of a new farm-market concept. Garden will be move to where the apple trees are now.
8. 2600 total new residents from condos, apts, senior living, mansion single fam houses
9. 4 star hotel, operator yet to be named
10. Green space will remain on western edge of west farm and be expanded. Trees and path on 144th on south farm will remain
11. 10mi of trails, parks.
12. Water retention ponds on all low lying areas you see today.
13. Community green space directly north of mnhs baseball diamond with pond, amphitheater

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Postby OmahaJaysCU » Tue Oct 04, 2016 8:37 am

This is a rumor obviously but I had heard Boystown placed a restriction on the land not allowing big box retail.

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Postby iamjacobm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:21 am

Thanks for the info! I walked to school at St. Wenc for 5 years when I was a kid so I basically grew up right around all of this. Not a lot has changed in that area in the almost decade since I moved out. Very interested to see how this comes together.

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Postby Coyote » Tue Oct 04, 2016 9:36 am

Thanks Overlooked Farm! Keep us informed if you hear anything else.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby zippy » Tue Oct 04, 2016 10:03 am

OverlookedFarm wrote:From the meeting;


Thanks, OverlookedFarm! I was at the meeting, and appreciate the summary. I was impressed by the amount of green space and the fact that it was a complete plan, rather than vaguely-described sections and phases. Can't wait for the renderings to be made available online!

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Ill post a pic of the plan shortly

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Postby OverlookedFarm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:29 pm

Hard to see, so I MSPainted it.

-Black circle is hotel
-Red lines is boulevard
- Orange circle is pond greenspace, amphitheater
-Gray circle is AU HQ
-Yellow Circles are single fam homes
-Purple line is the ped bridge
-Blue Circles are other office buildings
-Red circles are mixed use condo/apt/1st floor retail, etc Ak village type stuff
-Green is the farmers market area. The green spot to the right in the circle is the new garden

Noddle expects that 85% buildout by 8 years time. The project is 6 times larger than the FNBO-LindenEstates-CommFed project. Streets and utilities going in first. 10mi of trail is to circle and cross the property. Trying to get trail connections through Peidmont-Wycliff and Harvey Oaks. All road stubs in place now will be utilized. They want to keep as much greenspace as possible. The creek area directly south of pacific at about 150th is going to be a park area.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby OverlookedFarm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 12:33 pm

Here is a rendering of the farm buildings farm-garden area

One thing to point out is, the area between MNHS and Wycliffe, is like the 3rd highest point in Douglas CO. Should be spectacular views. my only concern is how the amphitheater will "fit" next to MN and Boys town.

My property backs to the west farm, I think it will be great for me. Boys Town kinda stopped caring this year.
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Postby Garrett » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:04 pm

That's amazing! I wish that was around when I was at Millard North.
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Postby iamjacobm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 1:15 pm

Wow looks great!

EDIT: Also I am just curious, did they mention if there was a name for the development? You know something with Village or Crossing or Pointe in the name?

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Postby OverlookedFarm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 2:02 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Wow looks great!

EDIT: Also I am just curious, did they mention if there was a name for the development? You know something with Village or Crossing or Pointe in the name?

No mention by jay noddle. He said there was more emphasis on working in the historical element of boys town west farm than demarco. I would imagine it would have a name referencing that.

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Postby bigredmed » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:06 pm

OverlookedFarm wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Wow looks great!

EDIT: Also I am just curious, did they mention if there was a name for the development? You know something with Village or Crossing or Pointe in the name?

No mention by jay noddle. He said there was more emphasis on working in the historical element of boys town west farm than demarco. I would imagine it would have a name referencing that.


Boystowne Weste ?

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby jessep28 » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:13 pm

Boys Towne Pointe
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Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Tue Oct 04, 2016 4:19 pm

Boys Towne Centre Pointe

Let's see if we can get 2 bedroom condos for under $200,000 and monthly fees around $200

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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:15 pm

Looks like it will be really good! Here's hoping they stick to the plan.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:22 pm

Dang the article said $1.2 billion in assessed value. No mention of TIF as well...

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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)

Postby Stargazer » Tue Oct 04, 2016 6:35 pm

The original Legacy rendering reminded me of this. I do like Legacy, but it's a far from cry from the grandiose plan which was originally presented.


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