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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Yea. They took out all the mulberry treesin the fenceline and cut down the windbreaks at millard north. All the trees around the farm buildings are down. They havent done much more this week
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Looks like parking will not be an issue for the retailers.
http://www.omaha.com/money/west-farm-de ... b5dec.html
http://www.omaha.com/money/west-farm-de ... b5dec.html
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Also, I thought they were going to try to keep all the farming buildings....which are still standing. This rendering shows that the buildings have all been demolished or moved.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Wait. Is that a parking structure in the upper right of the draft pic, Yet surface parking stalls take up half this frame?Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Looks like parking will not be an issue for the retailers.
http://www.omaha.com/money/west-farm-de ... b5dec.html
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It looks like all of the residential north of pacific is designed to have alleys and the homes are all close together and 2 stories. Who do they think is going to want to live in these type of homes? Certainly not empty nesters. I would think that families would want more green space. Are there enough millinieals in Omaha to make something like this work? I was hoping that there would be ranch homes and villas. Looks like I'll have to stay put in my 2 story or look to build way out west. Disappointed.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Empty nesters that want to downsize space, and don't want to deal with downtown's unignorable issues.
Today, they have parked the earth moving equipment on the property along with the demo excavator. Some of the cottages are tagged for BTFD to burn, and some are being emptied out for demo. The cannery, barn, pavilion, office, horticulture shed and granary are not marked. I'm fearful the lead paint specter will eventually doom these since they are from 1926.
I expect the silt fence to be up this week and dirt to start moving.
They are cleaning up the existing trees along original property/pasture line.
Today, they have parked the earth moving equipment on the property along with the demo excavator. Some of the cottages are tagged for BTFD to burn, and some are being emptied out for demo. The cannery, barn, pavilion, office, horticulture shed and granary are not marked. I'm fearful the lead paint specter will eventually doom these since they are from 1926.
I expect the silt fence to be up this week and dirt to start moving.
They are cleaning up the existing trees along original property/pasture line.
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You'll probably get a little bit of everyone. Personally my fiance and I don't believe you need a half acre of grass for every kid you pop out.MKBK wrote:It looks like all of the residential north of pacific is designed to have alleys and the homes are all close together and 2 stories. Who do they think is going to want to live in these type of homes? Certainly not empty nesters. I would think that families would want more green space. Are there enough millinieals in Omaha to make something like this work? I was hoping that there would be ranch homes and villas. Looks like I'll have to stay put in my 2 story or look to build way out west. Disappointed.
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Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Where are you seeing this? Are there photos somewhere or a project website?MKBK wrote:It looks like all of the residential north of pacific is designed to have alleys and the homes are all close together and 2 stories. Who do they think is going to want to live in these type of homes? Certainly not empty nesters. I would think that families would want more green space. Are there enough millinieals in Omaha to make something like this work? I was hoping that there would be ranch homes and villas. Looks like I'll have to stay put in my 2 story or look to build way out west. Disappointed.
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About 12 posts before this one, there is a link to a PDF file which has all the information you could want.riceweb wrote:Where are you seeing this? Are there photos somewhere or a project website?MKBK wrote:It looks like all of the residential north of pacific is designed to have alleys and the homes are all close together and 2 stories. Who do they think is going to want to live in these type of homes? Certainly not empty nesters. I would think that families would want more green space. Are there enough millinieals in Omaha to make something like this work? I was hoping that there would be ranch homes and villas. Looks like I'll have to stay put in my 2 story or look to build way out west. Disappointed.
Re: Boys Town and farmland (144th Dodge)
Smaller lot homes with garages off of alley access rather than off the street is happening in a number of cities across the country. Even Lincoln has a neighborhood like that called Fallbrook.
The homes will be designed to look like the homes in Dundee most likely as well. Kind of a nod back to the streetcar suburb.
The homes will be designed to look like the homes in Dundee most likely as well. Kind of a nod back to the streetcar suburb.
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Regarding the housing concern's if the house's are Below $200,000 you could see a younger family moving into those house's. I also really like the rendering that is shown above. Very sleek and modern. I think those Farm building's will be on the south farm if I'm not mistaken. It would be nice to have some of that history incorporated into the new development. Since they did get it from Boy's town.
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
I'm hopeful that some of the housing is below $200,000 but I do not have my hopes up. Aksarben was really high on their presale prices.OmahaFan wrote: if the house's are Below $200,000
Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
I'm 27 and I got my house for $105,000 it's off 42nd and Vinton. So there is nice house's for that price but rare. I think once they master 3D printing house's prices might go down? Either way we need to keep housing affordable in Omaha. We don't need house prices sky rocketing up like San Francisco. My house that I'm currently in if it was in California would probably be $500,000 to $700,000. Crazyness!
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
Looks like page 36 of the PDF shows the buildings staying in West Farm but being moved a few hundred feet south to that big park that borders 144th street.OmahaFan wrote:I think those Farm building's will be on the south farm if I'm not mistaken. It would be nice to have some of that history incorporated into the new development. Since they did get it from Boy's town.
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
The building(s) are being moved. They have the large barn across from the post office ready to be moved. Some other smaller buildings have started to be demolished, however they are demolishing them slowly. Maybe they are salvaging the wood, or maybe they are trying to recycle the scraps, I don't know.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:Looks like page 36 of the PDF shows the buildings staying in West Farm but being moved a few hundred feet south to that big park that borders 144th street.OmahaFan wrote:I think those Farm building's will be on the south farm if I'm not mistaken. It would be nice to have some of that history incorporated into the new development. Since they did get it from Boy's town.
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They redesigned it?!?! I'm so happy!! It looks so much better, imo. I'm way happier with it now, and much more excited that is going in. I'm glad they revamped it. It needed to be redesigned, imo. Before, I just did not like the idea of it. Now, I can't wait for it to be finished. (I think it is better because there are still features found of urban-minded design, but now softened a bit with a traditional suburban design aspect incorporated, making it blend into the area better overall. I felt it was too insensitive to the surrounding area before -- too big of a "urban splash" within a rambling suburban-scape.)
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
Correction, they are only moving the upper part of the barn, which is made from wood. The cinder block walls are being destroyed.Omaha_corn_burner wrote:The building(s) are being moved. They have the large barn across from the post office ready to be moved.
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Nope. On top of "Amazonization" of retail, some of these are going to close down and be redeveloped or repurposed.RockHarbor wrote:Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
For example amazing is predicted to use some of their newly purchased Whole Foods store locations as warehouses, whether traditional warehouses or storage for food ordered online and picked up by the consumers.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Nope. On top of "Amazonization" of retail, some of these are going to close down and be redeveloped or repurposed.RockHarbor wrote:Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
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Interesting. I never thought of that. I love Amazon. Who doesnt?buildomaha wrote:For example amazing is predicted to use some of their newly purchased Whole Foods store locations as warehouses, whether traditional warehouses or storage for food ordered online and picked up by the consumers.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Nope. On top of "Amazonization" of retail, some of these are going to close down and be redeveloped or repurposed.RockHarbor wrote:Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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Brick and mortar retailers.RockHarbor wrote:Interesting. I never thought of that. I love Amazon. Who doesnt?buildomaha wrote:For example amazing is predicted to use some of their newly purchased Whole Foods store locations as warehouses, whether traditional warehouses or storage for food ordered online and picked up by the consumers.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Nope. On top of "Amazonization" of retail, some of these are going to close down and be redeveloped or repurposed.RockHarbor wrote:Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
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LOL. Good answer. Here I have the opportunity to transfer to another city, and I'm struggling, because it's hard for me to let go (at least partially) of Omaha. There's so much new stuff going in -- like this new project. Like my co-worker stated: "Omaha is up & coming." It is. You can feel it, imo. It's the most attractive it has ever been, imo.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Brick and mortar retailers.RockHarbor wrote:Interesting. I never thought of that. I love Amazon. Who doesnt?buildomaha wrote:For example amazing is predicted to use some of their newly purchased Whole Foods store locations as warehouses, whether traditional warehouses or storage for food ordered online and picked up by the consumers.TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Nope. On top of "Amazonization" of retail, some of these are going to close down and be redeveloped or repurposed.RockHarbor wrote:Another thing: Do you think Omaha will be able to support all this, the new planned shops on Giles, new planned shops at Southport, and the new LaVista development? Along with the indoor malls, Village Point & Shadow Lake, and the outlet mall, these new urban style developments (Aksarben Village, South/West Farm, LaVista City development, and maybe Crossroads), and all the big box stores & strip malls strung along Center & Maple, I just don't understand how they all make it. Just thinking about all this today...
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
I'm just surprised that there aren't going to be any ranch style homes. Two and three stories are great when you are younger but don't make sense as you age. As an empty nester, I'm certainly interested in a smaller yard but wouldn't consider these houses because they aren't all on one level. For years a number of my friends and neighbors talked about wanting to build in this area when it finally got developed. None of us have any interest now.
Also wonder about the garages in the alleys. Won't snow removal be difficult? It kind of looks like the large houses in South Farm (next to St. Wenceslaus) have deattached garages. Does that make sense in Nebraska?
Also wonder about the garages in the alleys. Won't snow removal be difficult? It kind of looks like the large houses in South Farm (next to St. Wenceslaus) have deattached garages. Does that make sense in Nebraska?
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
Lots of detached garages around here in Detroit. Alleys too. In some older areas near us no garages at all, just driveways. People deal with it. Not too different from apartment complexes with no garages.
I would agree on the lack of ranch houses. While not necessarily popular in newer suburbs as I age I become less of a fan of stairs. There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
I would agree on the lack of ranch houses. While not necessarily popular in newer suburbs as I age I become less of a fan of stairs. There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
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And not older than me! Maybe there will be a market for this. I just don't see it. My kids might like it but they can't afford it.
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Gosh. I'm 55 and this passage actually made "The Don" feel quite young..NovakOmaha wrote:There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
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I see a market for residential elevators in this development...MKBK wrote:And not older than me! Maybe there will be a market for this. I just don't see it. My kids might like it but they can't afford it.
http://remihomeelevators.com/101.41
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
...and then they were gone.
...and then they were gone.
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It's really not the years. It's the mileage. I got a million on me. You? You're still young & damn handsome. Clean livin' brother.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Gosh. I'm 55 and this passage actually made "The Don" feel quite young..NovakOmaha wrote:There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
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Don't knock it. Lately I can really see the value in those stairlift commercials.GetUrban wrote:I see a market for residential elevators in this development...MKBK wrote:And not older than me! Maybe there will be a market for this. I just don't see it. My kids might like it but they can't afford it.
http://remihomeelevators.com/101.41
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I think many would be surprised of the number of people that frequent here that are on the + side of 50.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Gosh. I'm 55 and this passage actually made "The Don" feel quite young..NovakOmaha wrote:There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
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Is that because we all cry like children when a tower goes from 20 stories, to 15?nebugeater wrote:I think many would be surprised of the number of people that frequent here that are on the + side of 50.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Gosh. I'm 55 and this passage actually made "The Don" feel quite young..NovakOmaha wrote:There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
Thanks Novak ...
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
You guys are the ones with the experience and knowledge!nebugeater wrote:I think many would be surprised of the number of people that frequent here that are on the + side of 50.Omaha Cowboy wrote:Gosh. I'm 55 and this passage actually made "The Don" feel quite young..NovakOmaha wrote:There is a lot to be said for getting up from the couch or easy chair and stumbling down the hall to the bed. I get the feeling that at 58 I'm older than two or three of you put together. Well, except for Jeff.
Thanks Novak ...
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Can't disagree with this point, lol..NovakOmaha wrote:Don't knock it. Lately I can really see the value in those stairlift commercials.GetUrban wrote:I see a market for residential elevators in this development...MKBK wrote:And not older than me! Maybe there will be a market for this. I just don't see it. My kids might like it but they can't afford it.
http://remihomeelevators.com/101.41
Now excuse me, as our friend MadMartin8 has pointed out, I need to have as solid cry.. As I'm sure there is some highrise development proposal in Omaha that has been cut from 20 to 8 stories ..
Great responses guys. Carry on ...
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
Im sure many of you have seen the news articles and passing by on the progress
1. Cottages are completely removed and burned and backfiled.
2. Windbreak pens and knocked down. All the posts pulled up and concrete removed.
3. Horse barn roof removed by Scrib's and placed next to the pavillion
4. The Cannery and Garage are taped off for asbestos. Likely shingles. I bet they get demolished.
5. Granary and feed barn are coming down board by board, not sure if they are trying to rebuild or barnwood something.
6. Old Farm office was flattened 2 weeks ago
7. One of the modern grain bins was taken down bolt by bolt a month ago.
Heavy scraping along new new boulevard. Raccoons are running wild. I notice the manufacture date on the heaps of barbed wire and fence posts left on the property. November 1987. Thats when the easement was likely build for the new pasture.
Sad in a way. History is slipping away.
1. Cottages are completely removed and burned and backfiled.
2. Windbreak pens and knocked down. All the posts pulled up and concrete removed.
3. Horse barn roof removed by Scrib's and placed next to the pavillion
4. The Cannery and Garage are taped off for asbestos. Likely shingles. I bet they get demolished.
5. Granary and feed barn are coming down board by board, not sure if they are trying to rebuild or barnwood something.
6. Old Farm office was flattened 2 weeks ago
7. One of the modern grain bins was taken down bolt by bolt a month ago.
Heavy scraping along new new boulevard. Raccoons are running wild. I notice the manufacture date on the heaps of barbed wire and fence posts left on the property. November 1987. Thats when the easement was likely build for the new pasture.
Sad in a way. History is slipping away.
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Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
I'm pretty excited.OverlookedFarm wrote:Sad in a way.
They've really seemed to have picked up the pace on grading this week. They are making a lot of progress.
In other news, the are widening the intersection at 132nd and Pacific.
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I was looking at Oak View today and thinking about the impact all this will have on a slightly struggling mall. Then, it hit me: Maybe it will help Oak View overall. For example, if people are at West Farm shopping, and a family member all of a sudden says she needs to go to Bath & Body Works at Oak View afterwards, it may bring people to the mall, the area, the vicinity, that might not have if just Oak View was there. As long as they offer different stores & restaurants, then maybe it will boost the mall.
I can get pushed out because I'm "too much" for some. Then, an observer of me comes suddenly swooping in to "fill my shoes." People are always more accepting of the new one, because their feathers aren't truly ruffled by them. (Yawn) I can count on it every time.
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http://www.stwenceslaus.org/giving/737-new-church-plansyellowcolumbia wrote:From Sunday's bulletin:
St Wenceslaus is purchasing 16 acres for the new church. Proposed floor plan available after masses 12-13November. Groundbreaking 24September2017.
Renderings for the new church at the link.
Re: West Farms/South Farms (144th Dodge/Pacific)
I am very excited for this project and truly hope that it pans out they way they are planning. Omaha is in desparate need of this kind of development thats uses styling from the older neighborhoods and makes it (hopefully) more affordable.
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