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Postby nebport5 » Fri May 03, 2013 12:54 pm

If over-saturation is the issue I'd love to see Cordish go downtown...North Downtown or riverfront.
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Postby RNcyanide » Fri May 03, 2013 10:05 pm

nebport5 wrote:If over-saturation is the issue I'd love to see Cordish go downtown...North Downtown or riverfront.


Ohhhhh that would be awesome...

It's a shame about Southport, I was just so excited because I live nearby.
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Postby Greg S » Tue May 07, 2013 8:11 am

I think North Downtown and the area around the Clink would be so much better off if we had brought in Cordish or the like to coordinate the development.

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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Jun 19, 2013 9:07 am

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130618/NEWS/130619626/1685#alcohol-ok-in-downtown-entertainment-district-approved-by-lincoln-council

In passing, this article stated that earlier this year, Sarpy County officials donated $10,000 to a study on the Southport area as an entertainment district. Only a baby step, but a step closer, nonetheless...
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Postby nebugeater » Mon Sep 23, 2013 6:19 am

The Outlet mall concept at Southport is officially a dead project.  I think once new construction started at Nebraska Crossing this was all but a sure thing as far as outlets go.  



http://www.omaha.com/article/20130923/N ... wing-board


In La Vista, the Southport West outlets, a project spearheaded by Maryland developer Cordish Cos., is officially a no-go. The company that promised a $114 million outlet and entertainment district quietly scrapped the deal after running into problems purchasing land and choosing to focus on other business ventures, including a large casino project in Maryland, La Vista Mayor Doug Kindig said.



But while Cordish officials in 2012 said leases were being signed and design plans drawn up, little on-site work occurred, even as piles were driven and pipes fitted at the Nebraska Crossing site 11 miles away.




Cordish Cos. did not respond to multiple requests for comment.

Kindig now said he regrets going along with the splashy announcement when plans were so tentative.

“Announcements don't mean anything until there's a contract,” he said.
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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:19 am

Marvelous. I guess that means more room for nondescript 2 story suburban office buildings.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:28 am

Well who didn't see this coming?

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:30 am

HR Paperstacks wrote:Well who didn't see this coming?


Mayor Kindig.
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Postby NovakOmaha » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:33 am

I would have put money on Southport before Gretna until I found out that Gretna was a local/national partnership.  I doubt that Cordish ever had skin in the game.  

Nondescript two story light brick office buildings?  Don't tease us.  You know something.

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:35 am

NovakOmaha wrote:I would have put money on Southport before Gretna until I found out that Gretna was a local/national partnership.  I doubt that Cordish ever had skin in the game.  

Nondescript two story light brick office buildings?  Don't tease us.  You know something.


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Postby guitarguy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:49 am

I'm not terribly disappointed with this falling through after seeing on how large of a scale NebCrossing is.. Outlet malls have a very specific clientele and having 2 within a relatively close distance would tend to mean one of them would struggle so seeing NebCrossing thrive will be better for the whole area. Also, I really don't see a lack of potential where the Southport Outlet was planned.. it is the fastest growing area of the city after all... and building office buildings down that way is sure to increase demand for housing in that area as well.

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:24 am

I was mainly excited to have Cordish do something here in Omaha because I think they did a splendid job on the Power and Light District in KC; and to have it within walking distance of my house.
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Postby guitarguy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:33 am

I find it hard to look at what a certain company has done in another much larger city and think that there can be any comparisons made.. The P&L district is impressive and I would love having the same thing in Omaha but I think Cordish would have given us something very similar to NebCrossing since there is a certain style to Outlet malls and its not very impressive..

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:46 am

guitarguy wrote:I find it hard to look at what a certain company has done in another much larger city and think that there can be any comparisons made.. The P&L district is impressive and I would love having the same thing in Omaha but I think Cordish would have given us something very similar to NebCrossing since there is a certain style to Outlet malls and its not very impressive..


I guess the only perspective on outlet malls I have personally would be La Zona Rosa in KC. I thought it was a really nice place. Super suburban, considering it's a stone's throw from being in the middle of nowhere but rather pleasant.
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Postby guitarguy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:55 am

I have seen a lot of them on the East Coast and nearly all of them are basically a well designed sexy looking strip mall. I have no complaints with that but it would be a mistake to feel cheated on not having 2 within 10 miles here in town..  :yes:

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Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:57 am

I agree, I visited Zona Rosa last summer and thought they did a great job of incorporating the shopping and restuarants to make it a pedestrian friendly area.  Unlike Village Pointe and Shadow Lake, they didn't have large massive parking lots breaking up the cohesiveness of the retail and dining establishments.  There were a few smaller parking lots and a parking garage.  I like the inner ring of Shadow Lake, but the outer area feels like nothing more than a strip mall.
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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 11:58 am

After a while, weren't they starting to talk about making Southport an 'entertainment district' of sorts?
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Postby guitarguy » Mon Sep 23, 2013 12:00 pm

Really the 370 corridor has itself become an Entertainment district and one would believe that it all started with the building of Southport.

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Postby MadMartin8 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 7:14 pm

No surprises there. Maybe they'll turn it into a "Business Park" now.
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Postby RNcyanide » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:10 pm

How great would it be if us five years ago could see these pictures?
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Postby Brad » Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:11 pm

RNcyanide wrote:How great would it be if us five years ago could see these pictures?


Like see the future? Or see the photos from 5 years ago? Because I have the photos from 5 years ago.
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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:25 am

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RNcyanide wrote:How great would it be if us five years ago could see these pictures?


Like see the future?  Or see the photos from 5 years ago?  Because I have the photos from 5 years ago.


See the future.
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Postby Garrett » Mon Jul 07, 2014 1:43 am

RNcyanide wrote:How great would it be if us five years ago could see these pictures?

Wouldn't we basically see the same thing?
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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Jul 07, 2014 8:24 am

Garrett wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:How great would it be if us five years ago could see these pictures?

Wouldn't we basically see the same thing?


Five years ago we had big expectations of outlets and entertainment venues by Cordish that ought to have been here by now. It would just be interesting to see our reaction at the discovery it never happened.
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Postby NovakOmaha » Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:17 pm

As to a business park one thing did happen that impacted this area. Aksarben Village. I'm a business owner and I call a realtor to inquire about available space. He says he's got a couple of areas on which to build, AV and Southport. I jump in the family truckster and drive to both to take a look. Do I want to locate in a mixed use area in the city with great access or in next to Paypal near not much with great access? The companies that located in AV voted with their feet and money. It's great that Paypal chose Omaha but imagine them locating somewhere else in Omaha, like downtown, AV, a renovated Old Mill, etc. That's a ton of employees.

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Postby NEDodger » Mon Jul 07, 2014 4:27 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:As to a business park one thing did happen that impacted this area.  Aksarben Village.  I'm a business owner and I call a realtor to inquire about available space.  He says he's got a couple of areas on which to build, AV and Southport.  I jump in the family truckster and drive to both to take a look.  Do I want to locate in a mixed use area in the city with great access or in next to Paypal near not much with great access?  The companies that located in AV voted with their feet and money.  It's great that Paypal chose Omaha but imagine them locating somewhere else in Omaha, like downtown, AV, a renovated Old Mill, etc.  That's a ton of employees.


PayPal wanted a suburban campus, so downtown/AV never would have been considered. Old Mill likely would not have been either, but of the ones mentioned would have been the closest possibility.

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Postby NovakOmaha » Mon Jul 07, 2014 5:40 pm

NEDodger wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:As to a business park one thing did happen that impacted this area.  Aksarben Village.  I'm a business owner and I call a realtor to inquire about available space.  He says he's got a couple of areas on which to build, AV and Southport.  I jump in the family truckster and drive to both to take a look.  Do I want to locate in a mixed use area in the city with great access or in next to Paypal near not much with great access?  The companies that located in AV voted with their feet and money.  It's great that Paypal chose Omaha but imagine them locating somewhere else in Omaha, like downtown, AV, a renovated Old Mill, etc.  That's a ton of employees.


PayPal wanted a suburban campus, so downtown/AV never would have been considered.   Old Mill likely would not have been either, but of the ones mentioned would have been the closest possibility.


I know they wanted suburban, although their predecessor, X.com, was located in the 11128 John Galt Blvd building. I was simply saying imagine what may have been had they located somewhere "sexier".

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NovakOmaha wrote:  I was simply saying imagine what may have been had they located somewhere "sexier".

A 5:15 traffic jam.
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Postby NovakOmaha » Mon Jul 07, 2014 6:40 pm

Coyote wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:  I was simply saying imagine what may have been had they located somewhere "sexier".

A 5:15 traffic jam.


I could be cheeky & say "Until 5:30", but I'll stick with "Naaah. They'd all jump on bikes & the light rail.

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Coming Soon:

My Place Hotel (Southport East)
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Patience rewarded as La Vista OKs additional development in Southport area

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Emily Nohr / World-Herald staff writer wrote:Several years since its last major development, La Vista’s Southport area is seeing new momentum.

The La Vista City Council this week approved a conditional use permit for a new hotel called My Place Hotel on the development’s east side.
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Postby skinzfan23 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:22 pm

Is Costco for sure building there? The article didn't mention anything about it.

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Postby Coyote » Mon Jul 21, 2014 3:24 pm

Brad wrote:Coming Soon:

My Place Hotel (Southport East)
Costco (South of Cabella's)
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skinzfan23 wrote:Is Costco for sure building there?  The article didn't mention anything about it.


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Postby guitarguy » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:29 pm

Are they going to keep the one on Dodge open?
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Postby jessep28 » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:42 pm

guitarguy wrote:Are they going to keep the one on Dodge open?


I don't see why they wouldn't.
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Postby nebugeater » Mon Jul 21, 2014 4:54 pm

guitarguy wrote:Are they going to keep the one on Dodge open?


As packed as that place always seem to be I would be shocked if it was closed.

If there is room for a second Sam's (third if you count CB) in the metro there is room for two Costco's for sure.
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Postby Trips » Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:54 am

I was excited for the entertainment district of bars and condo's. Now it just seems that they are trying to fill it up with whatever they can so they can pay for Vision 84. I really have hate their 8% sales tax and will drive past their Runza/Jimmy John's and get my food 3 miles down the road.

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Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:51 pm

Trips wrote:I was excited for the entertainment district of bars and condo's. Now it just seems that they are trying to fill it up with whatever they can so they can pay for Vision 84. I really have hate their 8% sales tax and will drive past their Runza/Jimmy John's and get my food 3 miles down the road.


The food at Runza has went way down hill over the years but if you have to do Runza then that one in La Vista is a good choice. Its very clean and not to crowded. :yes:

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Postby Brad » Tue Jul 22, 2014 3:09 pm

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:The food at Runza has went way down hill over the years but if you have to do Runza then that one in La Vista is a good choice. Its very clean and not to crowded. :yes:


I don't think the Runza sandwiches are as qood as they once were, but they still have one of the best Fast Food Drive Through Cheese Burgers in town.
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