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Postby guitarguy » Fri Nov 08, 2013 11:20 pm

These are definitely a major improvement over the |expletive| that used to be there! :yes:

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Postby nativeomahan » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:36 am

I live less than five minutes away, and would kill to have a good breakfast place go in here.  And a pizzeria.
I have heard absolutely no rumors about businesses going in here.

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Postby Coyote » Sat Nov 09, 2013 10:16 am

Neither have I, and from the sign out front, they might be very selective in who they lease out to.
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Postby Jason4225 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:27 am

nativeomahan wrote:I live less than five minutes away, and would kill to have a good breakfast place go in here.  And a pizzeria.
I have heard absolutely no rumors about businesses going in here.


I agree completely. I live very close to here also. It would be nice to have a local breakfast place go in here. I'm wondering when we will start to see businesses opening.

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Postby GetUrban » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:12 pm

Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
...and then they were gone.

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Postby jessep28 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 3:26 pm

GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Slosburg is behind the project. That would require spending money.
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Postby S33 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 4:53 pm

jessep28 wrote:
GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Slosburg is behind the project. That would require spending money.
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:40 pm

jessep28 wrote:
GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Slosburg is behind the project. That would require spending money.


It fits in with the area. That may or may not have been a requirement. It's not horrible, at least.
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Postby nativeomahan » Tue Nov 12, 2013 8:59 pm

GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Boy, I disagree.  I really like the use of classic materials, with a somewhat more modern touch.  And I think the design of the new outlet mall just bites.  It looks cheap and unappealing.  The former mall had covered sidewalks, for one thing, to keep shoppers out of the rain and blazing sun.  Apparently no one was smart enough to think of that when they designed this replacement property.

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Postby GetUrban » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:48 am

nativeomahan wrote:
GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Boy, I disagree.  I really like the use of classic materials, with a somewhat more modern touch.  And I think the design of the new outlet mall just bites.  It looks cheap and unappealing.  The former mall had covered sidewalks, for one thing, to keep shoppers out of the rain and blazing sun.  Apparently no one was smart enough to think of that when they designed this replacement property.


Well, you're entitled to your own opinion. I'll agree to disagree. Many people are more comfortable with more historical-looking forms and decoration, even if it is "applied" and has no historical significance or context. You bring-up good points about protection from the weather, but the new Nebraska Crossing design does have some covered canopies to provide shade, plus the outdoor "streets" between stores are fairly narrow so you don't have far to scurry between stores during a downpour or sub-zero days. I think it will be a pretty active, fun place to shop with all of the storefronts along the narrow pedestrian-friendly walkways. People in Omaha are weather wimps compared to people in Minneapolis. I can't believe how many people you see out in the winter up there. The building materials are likely inexpensive, but I don't agree it looks cheap. The materials were used in a very creative way, creating a nice modern design composition.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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Postby GetUrban » Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:55 am

RNcyanide wrote:
jessep28 wrote:
GetUrban wrote:Glad to see something happening at that location, but the design looks kind of 1980-ish Post-Modern. Disappointing, compared to the new Nebraska Crossing Outlet design.


Slosburg is behind the project. That would require spending money.


It fits in with the area. That may or may not have been a requirement. It's not horrible, at least.


I agree, it's not horrible. We'll have to wait and see what the final product looks like before passing judgement. It's definitely better than what was there before!
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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Postby Brad » Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:00 pm

Just like it has been for every call in show on Grow Omaha for the past several years... First Question this morning, "What going on at 90th and Center".  Funny because Trenton even said before we took calls that nobody is sure...
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Brad » Tue Dec 24, 2013 9:27 am

I was thinking this morning that it's been a few months since I have seen anyone working on this building....
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby nativeomahan » Tue Dec 24, 2013 5:51 pm

It looks like they have taken the winter off. Stacks of bricks were piled up in October. Now they have disappeared.

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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby OmahaJaysCU » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:36 am

Knowing Slosburg they pry haven't paid the contractors and they're going to hault progress until they get paid...I'm kidding. Kind of.

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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby jessep28 » Wed Dec 25, 2013 1:54 am

Lol, this developer is terrible.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Coyote » Wed Jan 15, 2014 1:35 pm

I've seen roofers here lately, but three at the most...
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Ben » Thu Jan 16, 2014 7:59 am

Given the lack of committed tenants dictating a move in schedule, they probably didn't want to pay the extra costs associated with laying brick in the winter (tenting/heating). Hopefully with the warmer weather we'll see progress start back up.

An interesting side note - construction companies here in town must be really fearful of jobsite theft with all of the copper (and other) burglaries around town. They've been paying a security guard to sit in their car all night at the site every night for the last couple of months. Even at minimum wage, that's got to add up....

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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Ben » Thu Feb 27, 2014 9:32 am

There was a flurry of activity at the site yesterday. OPPD had several trucks there, I'd assume to connect the building to the power grid. Also, it appeared like several workmen were up on the roof, presumably preparing for roofing materials...

Glad to see progress again at this site.

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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby nativeomahan » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:31 pm

I noticed work on the building as well, yesterday. Perhaps the first activity in two months. Apparently the property owner decided to wake up from his hibernation and actually complete the building.

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Postby jessep28 » Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:38 pm

nativeomahan wrote:I noticed work on the building as well, yesterday.  Perhaps the first activity in two months.  Apparently the property owner decided to wake up from his hibernation and actually complete the building.


If this is a low priority project for them, why spend the money heating the structure over the winter?
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby nativeomahan » Sat Mar 01, 2014 7:49 am

jessep28 wrote:
nativeomahan wrote:I noticed work on the building as well, yesterday.  Perhaps the first activity in two months.  Apparently the property owner decided to wake up from his hibernation and actually complete the building.


If this is a low priority project for them, why spend the money heating the structure over the winter?



Oh, I don't know. Maybe so they can finish the bays so businesses can move in and start paying the rent needed to offset the building's construction costs?

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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Ben » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:24 am

Hasn't been heated. Hasn't even been fully enclosed yet....

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Mar 19, 2014 9:20 am

I didn't realize just how massive these were for a single story retail center.

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Postby Stargazer » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:14 pm

I grew up in this area... I think I liked the old strip mall better.

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Postby Brad » Sat Mar 22, 2014 11:35 pm

Stargazer wrote:I grew up in this area... I think I liked the old strip mall better.


The whole tear down and start over seems odd. These days, it seems like they can re-face any existing building, and that would have saved some cash and also grandfather in some old building codes.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby RNcyanide » Mon Mar 24, 2014 7:26 am

I drove by this place on Saturday. It's a lot taller than it looks in pictures.

As for rebuilding instead of renovating, maybe they already had interested tenants who wanted either a better-looking space or larger amount of space. Who knows, we might get something interesting in there.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby Seth » Thu Mar 27, 2014 4:46 pm

Brad wrote:
Stargazer wrote:I grew up in this area... I think I liked the old strip mall better.


The whole tear down and start over seems odd.  These days, it seems like they can re-face any existing building, and that would have saved some cash and also grandfather in some old building codes.


You'd be surprised how often it's cheaper to just raze a building and start over. Labor is just so much more expensive than materials these days, that the labor-itensive remodeling process of remodeling and restoration just makes it more attractive to do a full teardown. I generally prefer reuse and remodeling/restoration, especially in residential structures, but I understand the economic aspects of it. I also clearly don't value my labor enough, because, for example, I did a full disassembly, restoration, and reassembly on every double-hung 100-year-old wood window in our house. They turned out amazing, but there is no way I could have afforded it if I had to pay carpenter's rates on my time.

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Postby Brad » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:10 am

Lots of brick layers on site today.
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Postby Coyote » Mon Apr 07, 2014 8:49 am

I was going to post yesterday it looked like everything was set up to go...
It will be interesting to see how long this will take...
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Postby Jason4225 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 9:32 am

Even though this project has progressed very slowly, it's nice to see that it is moving forward. On a side note, I'm surprised they have not renovated the Hy-Vee across the street with all of the other Hy-Vee improvements in the metro over the last 10 years.

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:16 pm

Jason4225 wrote:Even though this project has progressed very slowly, it's nice to see that it is moving forward. On a side note, I'm surprised they have not renovated the Hy-Vee across the street with all of the other Hy-Vee improvements in the metro over the last 10 years.


There are several HyVee locations that have not been updated yet.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby GetUrban » Wed Apr 16, 2014 12:53 pm

Coyote wrote:Image


Looks kind of Von Mauer-ish. Not a bad looking brick background building, nothing avant-garde design-wise, but much better than what was there before.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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Postby Brad » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:21 pm

GetUrban wrote:
Coyote wrote:Image


Looks kind of Von Mauer-ish. Not a bad looking brick background building, nothing avant-garde design-wise, but much better than what was there before.


Trenton keeps saying that its an exact copy of a building in Lincoln.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby RNcyanide » Wed Apr 16, 2014 1:39 pm

So not only did we end up with another strippe malle, we ended up with a generic one to boote.
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Re: 90th and Center Discussion

Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Apr 16, 2014 3:47 pm

Brad wrote:
GetUrban wrote:
Coyote wrote:Image


Looks kind of Von Mauer-ish. Not a bad looking brick background building, nothing avant-garde design-wise, but much better than what was there before.


Trenton keeps saying that its an exact copy of a building in Lincoln.


That made me think of a shopping center near my Grandparent's house. I believe I've found it:
http://goo.gl/maps/zN48t

The shopping center contains a pretty nice looking Hy-Vee. Maybe we can expect something similar for 90th and Center:
http://goo.gl/maps/c9vYt
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