Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby MTO » Thu Dec 08, 2016 8:34 pm

Looks like it.
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:05 pm

Impressive!

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby choke » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:16 pm

Coyote wrote:I was wondering when this would be announced, the plans went to the Planning Board the other day...

choke wrote:Anyone know who the Hubbards are and what role they play in Omaha?


The Theodore F & Claire M Hubbard Family Foundation was founded in 1996 after Dr. Hubbard passed away. He received an MD from UNL in 1946 and after working at the Mayo clinic, moved back to Omaha were Dr. Hubbard became a pioneer in Cardiology (Dr. Hubbard was a member of the first cardiovascular surgical team in Omaha and also perfected dry-field heart surgery, a process that uses a machine to perform the functions of a patients heart and lungs so doctors may complete heart operations free of blood.)

They formed a $25M endowment which has given primarily for education and human services in the past such as the University of Nebraska Medical Center (The Hubbard Family Foundation has made a gift to the University of Nebraska Foundation to establish two endowed chairs in the College of Medicine at the University of Nebraska Medical Center. The Theodore F. Hubbard, M.D. Chair of Cardiology and the Theodore F. Hubbard, M.D. Chair of Cardiovascular Research) University of Nebraska–Lincoln, University of Nebraska State Museum and its branch museum at Ashfall Fossil Beds State Historical Park, and University of Nebraska at Omaha. The foundation has also provided support to Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo and Aquarium, among other Nebraska organizations.


Thanks for the history. Now I know the name behind the Gorilla and Orangutan exhibits at the zoo!

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby iamjacobm » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:29 pm

If only that condo project had come through this area would really be something to see!

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Coyote » Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:41 pm

choke wrote:Thanks for the history. Now I know the name behind the Gorilla and Orangutan exhibits at the zoo!

No problem. His name is huge at Nebraska Medicine. I worked there a few years after he passed, and everyone had stories about him.
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Brad » Thu Dec 08, 2016 10:44 pm

According to the county assessor's site, Children's currently does NOT own wither the bank or the BP.
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Brad wrote:According to the county assessor's site, Children's currently does NOT own wither the bank or the BP.


How many days behind can that site get... Between change of ownership and reporting that fact?
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

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Coyote wrote:
Brad wrote:According to the county assessor's site, Children's currently does NOT own wither the bank or the BP.


How many days behind can that site get... Between change of ownership and reporting that fact?


No sure, but just because its not a recorded sale doesn't mean they don't have an agreement or a signed contract.
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Coyote » Thu Dec 08, 2016 11:25 pm

Brad wrote:
Coyote wrote:
Brad wrote:According to the county assessor's site, Children's currently does NOT own wither the bank or the BP.


How many days behind can that site get... Between change of ownership and reporting that fact?


No sure, but just because its not a recorded sale doesn't mean they don't have an agreement or a signed contract.


Exactly. Same with Turner Park East LLC
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby bargainhunter » Fri Dec 09, 2016 9:41 am

HR Paperstacks wrote:Another rendering.


I am wondering if the sky-walk that connect CHMS to NMH was left out of the rendering, or if they really are planning to remove it. CHMS currently still occupies space in north tower of NMH.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby skinzfan23 » Fri Dec 09, 2016 10:54 am

Glad to see the progress being made by Children's.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby bigredmed » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:34 pm

bargainhunter wrote:
HR Paperstacks wrote:Another rendering.


I am wondering if the sky-walk that connect CHMS to NMH was left out of the rendering, or if they really are planning to remove it. CHMS currently still occupies space in north tower of NMH.


Don't know if they will remove it, but CHMC is planning on moving out of the north tower of NMH as they want the space for NMH needs.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby MTO » Fri Dec 09, 2016 12:53 pm

The Children's employees have to park and walk all the way from the southern portion of Methodists property. They are going to love this new parking ramp with a covered walk-way right next door to their hospital.
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Garrett » Sat Dec 10, 2016 10:28 am

MTO wrote:The Children's employees have to park and walk all the way from the southern portion of Methodists property. They are going to love this new parking ramp with a covered walk-way right next door to their hospital.

Some actually have to park as far as Crossroads currently, and then ride shuttles in.
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby choke » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:45 pm

Per Emily Nohr / World-Herald Bureau:

Alarm raised over effect of cuts on Medicaid providers


Dr. Richard Azizkhan, Children’s Hospital & Medical Center's president and chief executive officer, said the 3 percent Medicaid cut would “greatly impact” his hospital’s ability to grow and expand to meet the needs of the 2 million children that live within the hospital’s 250-mile radius.

Forty-five percent of the hospital’s patients last year were on Medicaid, up from 43.5 percent in 2015, he said.


http://www.omaha.com/news/legislature/alarm-raised-over-effect-of-cuts-on-medicaid-providers/article_f5b612ea-ca1a-58bf-afb3-cf339a116563.html

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby bigredmed » Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:01 pm

Lots of medicaid patients at CHMC and UNMC. We have no choice but to cut our state budget. We have made cuts other places. Unless we want to act like mature adults who are capable of making and sticking to tough choices, we will have these kind of things over and over again.

We have patients who are high cost patients and we do nothing to really lower their cost. We have means of doing stuff to lower cost, but it would mean telling some parent that their kid won't get every thing, or perhaps won't get something. It will mean that old people will have to spend their own assets to care for themselves and this will be met with screams. We will then back down and |expletive| about Pete Ricketts.

We have drugs that we buy in the commercial market instead of through the state where scale can help us. There are a fair number of big dollar drugs that we could lower the cost of.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Taco » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:24 pm

bigredmed wrote:We have patients who are high cost patients and we do nothing to really lower their cost. We have means of doing stuff to lower cost, but it would mean telling some parent that their kid won't get every thing, or perhaps won't get something. It will mean that old people will have to spend their own assets to care for themselves and this will be met with screams. We will then back down and |expletive| about Pete Ricketts.

We have drugs that we buy in the commercial market instead of through the state where scale can help us. There are a fair number of big dollar drugs that we could lower the cost of.


The changes you suggest are necessary and practical, but sadly too much of a political nonstarter to happen (neither party will embrace them). I fear for the next few years as we take drastic measures while avoiding the obvious solutions.

In the end - Children's, UNMC, CHI will all be fine as entities. The insurers and drug companies will be laughing at us from their mountains of cash. As for the patients...we will see.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Wed Mar 15, 2017 11:28 am

I don't see the new development. Where is it on the OP's photo?

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby choke » Wed Mar 15, 2017 12:34 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't see the new development. Where is it on the OP's photo?



Well. if Medicaid gets cut, there probably won't be any new development. I wonder if Childrens will still buy HDR's office when they move out?

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Wed Mar 15, 2017 3:36 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't see the new development. Where is it on the OP's photo?

Ha, weird. In my old age I didn't see that we are on page 4. I thought the post at the top of this page was the OP.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby OmahaJaysCU » Wed Mar 15, 2017 6:50 pm

choke wrote:
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I don't see the new development. Where is it on the OP's photo?



Well. if Medicaid gets cut, there probably won't be any new development. I wonder if Childrens will still buy HDR's office when they move out?

They already own it.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby jessep28 » Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:56 pm

Anytime you bring up the free market as a potential health care solution, people immediately scream that free markets are inhumane and accuse you of wanting rich people to have better health care.
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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby bigredmed » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:58 pm

jessep28 wrote:Anytime you bring up the free market as a potential health care solution, people immediately scream that free markets are inhumane and accuse you of wanting rich people to have better health care.

The only problem with the free market approach is that in a free market some stuff doesn't get covered or provided. The Friday night special at the orthopedic hospital is in west Omaha for a reason. Well insured teenagers with blown out ACLs are a profit center. Teenagers with Medicaid are not.

My hemophilia patients can burn through $100k in a month just in prophylactic factor. Then they want to play soccer that will add $25k each month assuming they don't get hurt. In a free market some of these kids will get this and others won't.

Society has never decided how cool they are with either the limit setting or the idea that little Billy gets to have very expensive healthy joints while Steve gets a wheelchair for his 21st birthday.

The free market has made their care possible, but has done so at a profit margin that is not sustainable. When the profit margin is not there, the treatments aren't there. We saw this with hemophilia B. Many fewer patients and they were left with plasma derived factor when hemophilia A patients were two generations into recombinant products.

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Re: Children's Hospital Expanding (84th and Dodge)

Postby HR Paperstacks » Tue Apr 11, 2017 6:11 pm

Have they started this? They fenced off the parking lot to the south and are now tearing out the wall around the ACs.


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