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Postby cdub » Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:56 am

That sign is awful.  Who needs a giant Coors light can looming over them as they go by?  Glad the City could supliment the arena with some MORE ads.

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Postby jessep28 » Tue Nov 13, 2012 4:34 pm

You technically see a giant CenturyLink ad whenever you pass the Clink downtown.
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:34 pm

The sign looks like an afterthought.

I'm still not impressed with any part of this project. Cities were told to be cautious about building new arenas back when the Qwest Center was being built because it was a trend across the nation to build them and an over-saturation seemed possible. So what we learned from that, apparently, is to not compete with other regional markets, but within our own market. We'll soon have 4 arenas....5 depending on how long the Civic stays open. Why the heck does a market our size need 4 multi-million dollar arenas?

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Postby MadMartin8 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:57 pm

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:The sign looks like an afterthought.

I'm still not impressed with any part of this project. Cities were told to be cautious about building new arenas back when the Qwest Center was being built because it was a trend across the nation to build them and an over-saturation seemed possible. So what we learned from that, apparently, is to not compete with other regional markets, but within our own market. We'll soon have 4 arenas....5 depending on how long the Civic stays open. Why the heck does a market our size need 4 multi-million dollar arenas?


Add in the new Arena that the city of Lincoln is building, and it's a pretty crowded state market. One or more of these arenas will fail like the MAC.

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Nov 14, 2012 1:53 pm

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:The sign looks like an afterthought.


Maybe Ralston came in under budget for the $4m in surprise expenses, so they put in a sign.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Tue Nov 20, 2012 4:25 pm

Ralston Arena brings booming business

KETV wrote:Businesses around the new Ralston arena says they are seeing a boost in sales.

Store managers around 72nd and Q streets said they are surprised by how many more customers have been coming in.

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Menard’s, a hotel and an ice cream shop are all being built near the arena.

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Postby PobodysNerfect » Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:57 pm

The sound in this place is terrible, thought judging by a lot of other shortfalls, they probably didn't put that much thought into it.

My biggest complaint is about Ralston itself. At least when Lancer games were downtown there were a variety of local restaurants and bars around...here there is what...the Anchor Inn and Ralston Keno for bars and Subway, King Kong, Dairy Queen, and Ragazzi's for food? Good for those businesses but it just feels lacking, the area is kind of crappy.

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Postby S33 » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:07 pm

PobodysNerfect wrote:The sound in this place is terrible, thought judging by a lot of other shortfalls, they probably didn't put that much thought into it.

My biggest complaint is about Ralston itself. At least when Lancer games were downtown there were a variety of local restaurants and bars around...here there is what...the Anchor Inn and Ralston Keno for bars and Subway, King Kong, Dairy Queen, and Ragazzi's for food? Good for those businesses but it just feels lacking, the area is kind of crappy.
Do you honestly believe that restuarants attract arenas, or the arenas attract restaurants?

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Postby PobodysNerfect » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:23 pm

They don't, but their events do :-P

I have been to many events at the CenturyLink Center. Go to DJ's Dugout on an evening there is a game or concert, go another night. You will see the difference. I am willing to bet if you ask them they will corroborate.

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Postby jessep28 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 1:34 am

There's that Cuban cafe on 79th and Harrison.
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Postby S33 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 10:27 pm

PobodysNerfect wrote:They don't, but their events do :-P

I have been to many events at the CenturyLink Center. Go to DJ's Dugout on an evening there is a game or concert, go another night. You will see the difference. I am willing to bet if you ask them they will corroborate.
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Postby cdub » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:05 am

Made my first trip last night.  The place is ok, thats about it.  The concourse on the one side is pathetically small for a new building. The seating seems to designed for Hockey and our seats were pretty mediocre for basketball watching.  

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Postby Brad » Fri Mar 01, 2013 9:18 am

cdub wrote:The concourse on the one side is pathetically small for a new building.


Just think, It was packed last night and there were only 2600 people there...
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Postby Filthy McNasty » Wed Mar 06, 2013 7:10 pm

Brad wrote:
cdub wrote:The concourse on the one side is pathetically small for a new building.


Just think, It was packed last night and there were only 2600 people there...


It's so crowded no one goes there anymore!!

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Postby iamjacobm » Fri May 24, 2013 9:30 am

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130524/MONEY/705249946/1685#72nd-street-corridor-gaining-2-hotels-ralston-and-near-aksarben-village

In Ralston, a proposed 87-room Holiday Inn Express with parking would be located south of the Ralston Arena, said John Mountjoy of CFM Realty.

Mountjoy said his firm's plan, which is subject to final city approval, includes a 6,000-square-foot retail and restaurant space adjacent to the hotel. He said the $8 million hotel is expected to open in May 2014.

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Postby Brad » Fri May 24, 2013 9:32 am

Article also says the Legion is staying for now...
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Postby nativeomahan » Sun Jun 09, 2013 6:10 pm

I'm happy that more new motel construction is occurring along the 72nd Street corridor.  Maybe that will lead to a boost to the restaurant scene along what once was called "The Strip".

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Postby skinzfan23 » Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:25 pm

Thanks for the update photo...every time I drive by there, I keep thinking I need to take a picture, but I never have my camera.

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Postby Coyote » Wed May 14, 2014 10:10 pm

KETV reports that the Ralston Arena lost over $4 Mill this year. And will lose UNO soon.
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Postby ItsAllAboutMe » Wed May 14, 2014 10:13 pm

Yikes!!!! Thats a huge deficit for an arena that size.

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Postby skinzfan23 » Wed May 14, 2014 10:25 pm

In all fairness:
Groesser said the $4 million does not paint an accurate financial picture. First, it includes the depreciation on the building and everything inside, and second, it includes the bond payments on the facility. Even with those set aside, the arena still shows a financial loss of $600,000.

Read more: http://www.ketv.com/news/annual-report- ... z31kd5YFBa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Still not good though....they are going to really have to book some good things because Lancer hockey alone isn't going to pay the bills.

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed May 14, 2014 10:27 pm

Whatever happened to the NBA D League talk? That would be a nice addition for them.

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Postby skinzfan23 » Wed May 14, 2014 10:32 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Whatever happened to the NBA D League talk?  That would be a nice addition for them.

Don't know, but apparently Lingerie Football must not be bringing in the dough either.

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Postby Coyote » Thu May 15, 2014 1:36 pm

OWH picks up the same story...

How much money Ralston Arena lost in its first year

Emily Nohr: World-Herald staff writer wrote:The problems include several events that lost the arena money: Video Games Live, Kenny G, Creedence Clearwater Revisited, Martina McBride, Wynonna Judd and Bill O'Reilly.
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Postby twiztid1 » Thu May 15, 2014 2:52 pm

The Lancers had a dark line in their ice their entire first season.  So the floor in the main arena had to be dug up to fix a bad pipe last summer.  That had to hurt the bottom line.

To me it sounds like things are generally in pretty good shape.  They just learned some lessons when it comes to booking acts.

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Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Fri May 16, 2014 1:05 am

twiztid1 wrote:
To me it sounds like things are generally in pretty good shape.  They just learned some lessons when it comes to booking acts.


This comment reminds me of the scene on the Titanic when the ship is clearly sinking and the musicians are still standing around playing their instruments. :shock:

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Postby nebugeater » Fri May 16, 2014 7:21 am

Why should these be excluded? IT is part of the cost of exiting for any business.

skinzfan23 wrote:In all fairness:
Groesser said the $4 million does not paint an accurate financial picture.  First, it includes the depreciation on the building and everything inside, and second, it includes the bond payments on the facility. Even with those set aside, the arena still shows a financial loss of $600,000.

Read more: http://www.ketv.com/news/annual-report- ... z31kd5YFBa" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Still not good though....they are going to really have to book some good things because Lancer hockey alone isn't going to pay the bills.
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Postby Coyote » Thu Jun 05, 2014 9:25 am

Ralston Arena is looking for a new tenant; NDBL team from Milwaukee?
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Postby Greg S » Fri Jun 06, 2014 10:29 am

I remember they almost had one at their opening, then supposedly announced it too soon and scared the team away. I think it was going to be for Denver.

Did the roller derby thing move back to CB?

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Postby Coyote » Thu Aug 07, 2014 5:55 pm

I will be so happy after tomorrow when Firehouse finally plays at the Ralston Arena, they have been playing radio ads ad naseum on many stations and charging only $20 for the show. They must be losing money on this concert, I can't see how they are spending so much on advertisement...
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Aug 07, 2014 6:01 pm

Coyote wrote:I will be so happy after tomorrow when Firehouse finally plays at the Ralston Arena, they have been playing radio ads ad naseum on many stations and charging only $20 for the show. They must be losing money on this concert, I can't see how they are spending so much on advertisement...


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Postby Brad » Thu Aug 07, 2014 9:10 pm

I thought about going, but I am heading to Lincoln for the Doobie Brothers and Boston!
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Postby skinzfan23 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 8:48 am

Ralston Arena still losing money, but city officials work to stem red ink, aim to break even in 2016

The arena posted an operating loss of nearly $300,000 in 2013-14, and Ralston officials are hoping they can get the 2½-year-old, 4,400-seat arena to break even next year.
In its third year, the arena is finally coming into its own, Groesser said. The arena, located near 72nd and Q Streets, is hosting more events: 141 events have deposits down already for this year, compared with the 165 booked all of last year.

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Postby Greg S » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:07 am

Might be a tough year for them. They are losing UNO basketball and more hockey rinks to compete with (UNO's practice sheet and Grover Street Ice).

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Postby RNcyanide » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:14 am

Yeah I've never understood why this arena needed to be built.
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Postby Brad » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:28 am

RNcyanide wrote:Yeah I've never understood why this arena needed to be built.


165 events booked last year and 141 so far this year, I would say there is a need for this sized arena. I think once they quite trying to book Bill Clinton and Bill O'Riley, they will do fine. I am sure they can make up for UNO's 15 games a year with a few more hair bands and what not. The guy that's running it now came from the CenturyLink Center. I am sure he is better than the Mayor's brother or whoever they picked to run it in the first place.
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Postby skinzfan23 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:29 am

RNcyanide wrote:Yeah I've never understood why this arena needed to be built.

They are still the perfect size for the Lancers, which is their main tenant. Plus it does sound like there is a very large demand for ice, so I think that aspect of it is ok. The problem is they aren't getting enough shows or concerts.

Either way, arenas rarely make a ton of money. They are a lot like parks. They take funding from the public and in return provide an amenity to the community. Granted most parks don't charge to attend like an arena has to.

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Postby twiztid1 » Fri Apr 24, 2015 10:48 am

RNcyanide wrote:Yeah I've never understood why this arena needed to be built.


For the same reason any arena or baseball stadium in the metro needed to be built. None of them needed to be built. But each entity whether it's a team, city, university, or county wants to have their own venue. Metro Omaha is big enough that it has the fortune (or maybe misfortune at times) to have several entities that can build their own facilities. The venues take events from each other, but they probably increase the metro's entertainment options overall.


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