Posted: Fri Mar 06, 2009 10:30 am
I seriously doubt you'll see Mall of the Bluffs go under for quite some time.the1wags wrote:The new Target is open, I was in there last night. The end is near for Mall of the Bluffs.
I seriously doubt you'll see Mall of the Bluffs go under for quite some time.the1wags wrote:The new Target is open, I was in there last night. The end is near for Mall of the Bluffs.
Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
I think the Bluffs Mall will go away. They already have alot of open storefronts and have converted many storefronts into non-retail type businesses.Bosco55David wrote:Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
Oh, and it's biggest advantage over Crossroads is that they aren't owned by Simon. :mrgreen:
Seriously, I doubt that will happen for a very long time, if at all. The mall is not even 30 years old and it's the only indoor shopping mall in the area, which is very important in the midwest when winter comes around. Sure they lost an anchor, but they can get a new one and probably will in short order.S33 wrote:I think the Bluffs Mall will go away. They already have alot of open storefronts and have converted many storefronts into non-retail type businesses.Bosco55David wrote:Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
Oh, and it's biggest advantage over Crossroads is that they aren't owned by Simon. :mrgreen:
Given the present state of the retail market and the overall economy in general, bringing in other anchors isn't going to be a simple task.Bosco55David wrote:Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
Our economy isn't going to be in the dumps forever. Personally, I think it'll start to improve significantly by this summer.Mr.Nuke wrote:Given the present state of the retail market and the overall economy in general, bringing in other anchors isn't going to be a simple task.Bosco55David wrote:Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
Agreed.Bosco55David wrote:Our economy isn't going to be in the dumps forever.
No chance. Â You don't recover from the number of jobs we've lost in the last 6 months that quickly - stimulus or no. Â Now, the markets may begin to bounce back up, but that is a relatively poor indication of "the economy". Â If we're at DJIA 8000 and 13% unemployment, that's not a good thing.Bosco55David wrote:Personally, I think it'll start to improve significantly by this summer.
That is exactly right. If there is anything we have learned in the last 5 years, its that stock indexes are nearly impossible to make sense of. The entire market is so corrupted that any gain or loss is easy to ignore. In fact, the stock market as we know it may cease to exist and we will be just fine. (its happened before)Big E wrote:No chance. You don't recover from the number of jobs we've lost in the last 6 months that quickly - stimulus or no. Now, the markets may begin to bounce back up, but that is a relatively poor indication of "the economy". If we're at DJIA 8000 and 13% unemployment, that's not a good thing.
I didn't say recover, I said show significant improvement. Â :;):Big E wrote:No chance. You don't recover from the number of jobs we've lost in the last 6 months that quickly - stimulus or no. Now, the markets may begin to bounce back up, but that is a relatively poor indication of "the economy". If we're at DJIA 8000 and 13% unemployment, that's not a good thing.
At that point a strong argument could be made that economic recovery is irrelevant. Â As others have noted, we've already seen this scenario play out twice in the metro over the past several years with Southroads and Crossroads. Â Once you start loosing tenants it becomes very difficult to attract new tenants.Bosco55David wrote:Our economy isn't going to be in the dumps forever. Personally, I think it'll start to improve significantly by this summer.Mr.Nuke wrote:Given the present state of the retail market and the overall economy in general, bringing in other anchors isn't going to be a simple task.Bosco55David wrote:Sure it don't help, but other anchors can be brought it. Plus, MotB isn't hampered by having two larger and nicer malls within 10 miles.the1wags wrote:Losing anchors like Target and JCPenny isn't going to help anything. Next thing you know, it's Crossroads. Then a slow horrible change into Southroads.
And again, you're talking about two very different malls here.Mr.Nuke wrote:At that point a strong argument could be made that economic recovery is irrelevant. As others have noted, we've already seen this scenario play out twice in the metro over the past several years with Southroads and Crossroads. Once you start loosing tenants it becomes very difficult to attract new tenants.
And what would those "non-retail" businesses be? Â There's an H&R Block (seasonal, but they've been seasonal for many years at MOTB), and the only other non-retail is Kaplan U., which is in an area that at one time housed a everything-for-a-dollar store, and briefly a spa store.S33 wrote:I think the Bluffs Mall will go away. They already have alot of open storefronts and have converted many storefronts into non-retail type businesses.
Anyone happen to know whether it was just this Skeeter Barnes, or the entire chain closing? Â I know they have locations elsewhere.... Â Lincoln and Kearney, I believe.bargainhunter wrote:Skeeter Barnes closed last week without any notice. The owner said he had to abruptly so the mall wouldn't know of his plans to close. Not sure why it would matter if they knew he was closing. You'd think they'd be happy to keep any paying tenant for as long as they are willing to stay.
Very sad. Â This was a great Old Navy.The days are numbered for another retail store in Council Bluffs.
The Old Navy, located inside Mall of the Bluffs, will close Jan. 26.
“The decision to close a store is always a difficult one – a number of factors impact the decision, including store location, store performance and number of stores in the market,” Catherine Rhoades, a spokesperson for Gap Inc. corporate communications, said in an e-mail. “We are constantly evaluating our store fleet to ensure we have the right stores in the right locations to best serve our customers.”
Founded in 1993 as a division of Gap Inc., the Old Navy opened in the mall in November 1999.
At the time, it was only the second location in the metropolitan area, with the first being at Westroads Mall in Omaha. When the Mall of the Bluffs location opened, it was nearly twice as large as the Westroads store.
Since the opening, additional stores have opened at Oakview Mall and the Shops at Shadow Lakes in Papillion, Neb.
An employee at the store said they had not heard of any other closings in the metro area.
It is unclear if a stand-alone store will be open in Council Bluffs in the future, according to Rhoades.
“I do not have information to share about a new location at this time,” she said.
Although I really hate to see any shop close, it's kind of a very appropriate poetic justice considering what MOTB did to Midlands Mall (which I liked very much) maybe 20-some years ago!bargainhunter wrote:Very sad. Â This was a great Old Navy.
bargainhunter wrote:Burger King @ MOTB is closing for business today at 2 PM.
The radio report was maybe a little behind the times, Old Navy announced closing over a month ago, and I think it was only a matter of time with Radio Shack, as they're opening a new store at Metro Crossing (if not already open).nebugeater wrote:bargainhunter wrote:Burger King @ MOTB is closing for business today at 2 PM.
Radio this AM reported that three stores had not renewed their leases. In addition to BK I believe the other two were Old Navy and Radio Shack. Please correct if this is wrong.
There is a free-standing BK across the way from MOTB, but there is also a BK in the food court at MOTB.bbinks wrote:It's been some time since I was near there, but I thought the Burger King was a free standing one?
There is a free staniding BK across Madison Ave, but there was also one in the food court.bbinks wrote:KETV reported yesterday that the 3 closings were Old Navy, Burger King, and Radio Shack.
It's been some time since I was near there, but I thought the Burger King was a free standing one?
Here is the brief news stroy,
http://www.ketv.com/news/22354432/detail.html
bargainhunter wrote:The Lunar Mini Golf place is now closed.
What is Country and More?jhbenson wrote:Country and More is moving to Oakview.
And many in Omaha, too. Â Many enjoy the fact that it's right off the interstate and used to offer many shopping alternatives.Ankeny Husker Freak wrote:It's mind blowing to read about what's happening at the Mall of the Bluffs. It wasn't that long ago when the Mall was THE place to go to for those in SW Iowa.
Wow. It wasn't even a decade ago that they tore out the theater to build that add on.bargainhunter wrote:Heard that Barnes & Noble is up next to close their doors at MOTB.