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Historic Street Names

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:47 pm
by riceweb
The downtown streets are laid out alphabetically, with a few exceptions. I wonder if anyone on the board knows, what were the original names of the streets?

Burt
Mike Fahey - Previous Name Webster - Original Name ???
California
Cass
Chicago
Davenport
Capitol Ave - Original Name ???
Dodge
Douglas
Farnam
Harney
Howard
Jackson
Jones
Leavenworth
Marcy
Mason
Pacific
Pierce
Poppleton

North of Burt, you have Cuming, Izard, and Nicholas, which are totally random as far as I can tell. South of Pierce, again, the pattern drops off. But does anyone know the original street names?

Also, I think we should, at least as a separate, historical sign, list the old street names. We could even give Cuming the alternate name "Abbott" so that our street names have a definitive starting street. I think then it'd be a lot easier for first-timers to navigate the downtown area.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:52 pm
by iamjacobm
http://www.omahahistory.org/Education_StreetNames.htm

This can answer your every question.

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:06 pm
by riceweb
It's close! But it doesn't say what they originally were. However, the bibliography does mention this:

Brick, H. Ben. The Streets of Omaha: Their Origins and Changes. Omaha: Omaha Public Library, 1997.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:37 am
by Brad
Then they get in to tree streets...

Pine
Hickory
Walnut
Cedar
Elm
Oak

Then A-Z streets

Then Presidents

Washington
Jefferson
Adams
Madison
Monroe

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 3:02 am
by Omababe
riceweb wrote:The downtown streets are laid out alphabetically, with a few exceptions. I wonder if anyone on the board knows, what were the original names of the streets?

Burt
Mike Fahey - Previous Name Webster - Original Name ???
California
Cass
Chicago
Davenport
Capitol Ave - Original Name ???
Dodge
Douglas
Farnam
Harney
Howard
Jackson
Jones
Leavenworth
Marcy
Mason
Pacific
Pierce
Poppleton
Ya know, I've lived here 30 years now and I did not notice that pattern!

I've heard that Cuming (singular, of course), Webster, Izard, and Burt are named for 19th century political figures. I really did not notice the (semi) alphabetic pattern from north to south. I'm kinda surprised, since the area I come from has a number of pockets of alphabetical streets (Albemarle, Beverl(e)y, Cortelyou, Dorchester; Huron, India, Java, Kent dot-dot-dot).

I wonder if there are any other patterns to the Omaha streets?

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:58 am
by TitosBuritoBarn
Not downtown, but my favorite street is John Galt Boulevard. It's named after a fictional character from Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged whose life apparently isn't going anywhere. It received it's name because, just like character, it doesn't go anywhere.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:59 am
by bigredmed
The streets are laid out in their original development or township that got added to Omaha over time.  The tree names start south of Leavenworth and go towards Center.  When they ran out of trees, they switched to Girls names (Shirley street).  When Omaha and So Omaha merged, they ended up with double girl names in a couple of streets (If I remember correctly, Mary or Martha street).

Presidents were added at some point.  When Millard was its own town, the streets there were originally tree names or Presidents names.  I lived on Madison street that got changed to O street to fit with the Alphabet streets of South Omaha.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 8:29 am
by Omababe
bigredmed wrote:When Omaha and So Omaha merged, they ended up with double girl names in a couple of streets (If I remember correctly, Mary or Martha street).
A real estate agent was telling me the tale of some of the "girl" streets in the northern part of Sarpy County, some of which begin in what is now northern Bellevue and run westward to the vicinity of Denver or so. :) Some of these (Emiline, Gertrude) were named for the wives, daughters, and in some cases mistresses of the settlers and developers of the area. The trend continued into the mid-late 20th century and now includes one named for the ex-wife of a recent somewhat flamboyant developer. :)

There are a few oddities in these streets. (I have a thing for street oddities for some reason.) Emiline is spelled both "Emeline" and "Emiline" in places, with differently-spelled signs being quite close together in some places. Audrey is one of the few streets in the Omaha area that is addressed by both the "south of Dodge" numbers and the "east to west" numbers in places.

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 12:24 pm
by Seth
I actually check out a book from the library that had a comprehensive discussion of the origin of Omaha street names.  It was a bound copy of a university MS thesis, but it was pretty interesting.  It's in the Omaha history section of the downtown library.

Posted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 2:33 pm
by Turtle9160
I remember seeing some old maps of Omaha form around 1870 and on till round after the second world war, Capital was always called that since it lead to the old capital building, the odd thing was that some of he named streets south of Leavenworth use to be names of streets in North Omaha and vice versa and alot of the streets changed names at some point, library site might have images of them if anyone wanted to look should be in the historic section.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 8:01 pm
by iamjacobm
I was talking to someone that was listening to KGOR(I think) the the other day and they said they were having a huge discussion about changing the name of Cuming b/c it was "innappaoiatte" and "crude." She didn't remember if they mentioned that Cuming is a notable figure in Nebraska history, not a mention to some other things.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2014 9:15 pm
by Coyote
Well that's just bright. They should rename Dodge Street because I was traumatized by playing that in 2nd grade.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 1:33 pm
by bigredmed
iamjacobm wrote:I was talking to someone that was listening to KGOR(I think) the the other day and they said they were having a huge discussion about changing the name of Cuming b/c it was "innappaoiatte" and "crude."  She didn't remember if they mentioned that Cuming is a notable figure in Nebraska history, not a mention to some other things.
Just because someone is too lazy to check out a book at the library and read it, or too clueless to use Google, does not mean the rest of us should take their infantile and immature concerns seriously, much less go to the trouble of having a hearing on it.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Wed Jul 16, 2014 10:59 pm
by TitosBuritoBarn
I mean let's not be too quick to judge. Maybe this particular person lives on Cuming at one of it's more unfortunate cross streets and gets tired of telling visitors that they're "Cuming 'n' Burt" or that they're at "Fairwood 'n' Cuming," or "i'm at the end of the Cuming Circle that's after 69th."

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:15 am
by Omababe
Actual street intersection in upper Manhattan, NYC:

Image

Hey, we're all adults here, right. :)

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 10:52 am
by threeoutside
This is fascinating! I do know that a lot of the older streets, such as Cuming, Burt, Dodge, and others, are named after military generals - many from the Civil War, some (probably) from the so-called "Indian wars." I agree, one person who can't be bothered to educate themselves shouldn't be able to dictate to the whole community. History is right there on our street signs, folks, open your eyes.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 11:05 am
by Coyote
I have the book "Nebraska Place-Names" (1960, Univ of NE Press) that I use often to remind me who some of our cities or streets or rivers are named after. Some throw me way off, like the Loup River...

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:10 pm
by BRoss
threeoutside wrote:This is fascinating! I do know that a lot of the older streets, such as Cuming, Burt, Dodge, and others, are named after military generals - many from the Civil War, some (probably) from the so-called "Indian wars." I agree, one person who can't be bothered to educate themselves shouldn't be able to dictate to the whole community. History is right there on our street signs, folks, open your eyes.
Actually Dodge was named after an influential Iowa senator who was a strong supporter of westward expansion: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Street" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:45 pm
by threeoutside
Ah - good to know. Was that who the Dodge House is named after, too?

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Fri Oct 10, 2014 2:50 pm
by Brad
threeoutside wrote:Ah - good to know. Was that who the Dodge House is named after, too?
The Dodge house is after General Dodge.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 9:21 am
by Coyote
threeoutside wrote:This is fascinating! I do know that a lot of the older streets, such as Cuming, Burt, Dodge, and others, are named after military generals - many from the Civil War, some (probably) from the so-called "Indian wars." I agree, one person who can't be bothered to educate themselves shouldn't be able to dictate to the whole community. History is right there on our street signs, folks, open your eyes.

If you are interested in that, then you should check this out:

La Vista Public Library (October 14 - November 3, 2014)
Civil War 150: Celebrating Nebraska's role in the War of the States

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:20 pm
by bigredmed
Cumings and Burt were territorial governors. Capitol Ave was the street leading to the territorial capitol. South of Dodge, you have girl names like Emilie and Shirley.

These were wives or daughters of the developers.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Sat Oct 11, 2014 12:27 pm
by threeoutside
:lol: Well, I was wrong, wasn't I - but at least I triggered a small outburst of info-sharing. Thanks, guys! Looks like *my* history-reading needs a growth spurt.

Re:

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 11:00 am
by damonhynes
TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Not downtown, but my favorite street is John Galt Boulevard. It's named after a fictional character from Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged whose life apparently isn't going anywhere. It received it's name because, just like character, it doesn't go anywhere.
Let me dredge this back up after six years: We all know it was named after the character, but...

1. Who did the naming? Developer? Big tenant?
2. How come no Taggart, Roark, Rearden?

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:06 pm
by NovakOmaha
damonhynes wrote:
TitosBuritoBarn wrote:Not downtown, but my favorite street is John Galt Boulevard. It's named after a fictional character from Ayn Rand's book Atlas Shrugged whose life apparently isn't going anywhere. It received it's name because, just like character, it doesn't go anywhere.
Let me dredge this back up after six years: We all know it was named after the character, but...

1. Who did the naming? Developer? Big tenant?
2. How come no Taggart, Roark, Rearden?
Developer did it.

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 12:55 pm
by damonhynes
NovakOmaha wrote:
Developer did it.
Thanx!

Re: Re:

Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:27 pm
by threeoutside
damonhynes wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:
Developer did it.
Thanx!
I didn't know developers read books!

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 9:33 am
by NeonMartiniGlass
Omababe wrote:I wonder if there are any other patterns to the Omaha streets?
From East to West they increase numerically... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 11:13 am
by Coyote
Streets from A to Z are alphabetical, then comes the Presidents...

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 4:12 pm
by threeoutside
In the original core of downtown, the street names are also alphabetical north to south: Burt, Cuming, Davenport, Dodge, Douglas, Farnam, Harney, Jackson...I think they're all names of American generals, maybe someone can confirm that (or not)?

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:27 pm
by Coyote
Cuming Street: Thomas B. Cuming took over the office of Governor of the Nebraska Territory immediately after Francis Burt’s death.
Burt St: Francis Burt was the first Governor of the Nebraska Territory.
Webster St: Three possibilities.
California St: Named after all the Calibraskans.
Cass St: General Lewis Cass, was an active part in the fight over the Kansas-Nebraska bill. Cass was the Democratic nominee for President in 1848.
Chicago: Chicago, IL
Davenport: Davenport IA, where some bankers came from.
Dodge Street: U.S. Senator Augustus Caesar Dodge Introduced the Senate bill to organize the Nebraska Territory.
Douglas Street: Stephen A. Douglas was a U.S. Senator from Illinois who was integral in the passing of the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the building of the Union Pacific railroad.
Farnam Street: Henry Farnam, another railroad tycoon and proponent of westward expansion.

Re: Historic Street Names

Posted: Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:29 pm
by threeoutside
Thanks for the information! I knew I'd left some of them out.