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Resurfacing Streets

Postby Coyote » Tue Sep 10, 2013 9:50 am

Big article in today's paper about how Dodge St will be slower for a few months as they resurface from 52nd to Turner.
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Postby iamjacobm » Tue Sep 10, 2013 3:33 pm

Wouldn't it of made sense to start the resurfacing the same time they redid the sidewalks?

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Postby jessep28 » Tue Sep 10, 2013 4:26 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Wouldn't it of made sense to start the resurfacing the same time they redid the sidewalks?


I think this may have been one of those projects whose timeline was accelerated because of State funds that were released to Omaha after extra money was found in the State roads budget.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Tue Sep 10, 2013 5:36 pm

jessep28 wrote:
iamjacobm wrote:Wouldn't it of made sense to start the resurfacing the same time they redid the sidewalks?


I think this may have been one of those projects whose timeline was accelerated because of State funds that were released to Omaha after extra money was found in the State roads budget.

Yes, I remember them saying this was one of the projects that was going to be funded by that extra money.

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Postby brick » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:19 pm

Wouldn't it of made sense to start the resurfacing the same time they redid the sidewalks?

It is coordinated.  Anytime a street is resurfaced, the City has to make the sidewalk ramps ADA accessible.  So, they do this (and rebuild crumbling curbs) in the couple weeks prior to the resurfacing.  How is a worker suppose to pour concrete for a new sidewalk at the exact same time an asphalt machine is rolling by?  This same process was just used on Leavenworth from Saddle Creek to 60th.

In addition, the City has rebuilt many of the traffic signals poles/mast arms on this stretch and replacing some of the lighting.  

The 50th to 52nd Street section was actually separate project...that involved a total redo of the sidewalks as well as retaining walls.  Fortunately, all of this work is being done at the same time, so there is quite a bit of coordination.

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Postby brick » Wed Sep 11, 2013 3:20 pm

Wouldn't it of made sense to start the resurfacing the same time they redid the sidewalks?

It is coordinated.  Anytime a street is resurfaced, the City has to make the sidewalk ramps ADA accessible.  So, they do this (and rebuild crumbling curbs) in the couple weeks prior to the resurfacing.  How is a worker suppose to pour concrete for a new sidewalk at the exact same time an asphalt machine is rolling by?  This same process was just used on Leavenworth from Saddle Creek to 60th.

In addition, the City has rebuilt many of the traffic signals poles/mast arms on this stretch and replacing some of the lighting.  

The 50th to 52nd Street section was actually separate project...that involved a total redo of the sidewalks as well as retaining walls.  Fortunately, all of this work is being done at the same time, so there is quite a bit of coordination.

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Postby jessep28 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:16 pm

And here we go!

Lane restrictions start ahead of Dodge Street makeover

Orange cones already line Dodge Street on Sunday night in preparation for a $2.5 million construction project that will last for two months.

The barricades are up, cones and barrels are out, and lane restrictions have started from 52nd Street to Turner Boulevard, leaving residents and drivers worried.

"A lot of people's lives are disrupted, and it feels as though we've been marginalized, that this segment of Omaha has been, the needs have been completely ignored," said resident Margaret Bowser.
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Postby guitarguy » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:18 pm

jessep28 wrote:And here we go!

Lane restrictions start ahead of Dodge Street makeover

Orange cones already line Dodge Street on Sunday night in preparation for a $2.5 million construction project that will last for two months.

The barricades are up, cones and barrels are out, and lane restrictions have started from 52nd Street to Turner Boulevard, leaving residents and drivers worried.

"A lot of people's lives are disrupted, and it feels as though we've been marginalized, that this segment of Omaha has been, the needs have been completely ignored," said resident Margaret Bowser.


I wish my last name was Bowser!!! Thats awesome  :mrgreen:

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Postby almighty_tuna » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:25 pm

Maybe I'm not reading this right, but is she complaining about getting their infrastructure needs ignored in an article about them being updated? smh

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Postby jessep28 » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:44 pm

almighty_tuna wrote:Maybe I'm not reading this right, but is she complaining about getting their infrastructure needs ignored in an article about them being updated? smh

Fix my streets but don't inconvenience me!


That's how I interpreted it.
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Postby guitarguy » Sun Sep 15, 2013 11:45 pm

When I lived in NY I knew a guy who worked paving the roads and this complaint is number one on the list of complaints.. Come on its Omaha there are a ton of different ways to get around this construction and its not that hard to figure out..

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Postby Dundeemaha » Mon Sep 16, 2013 9:23 am

She was complaining that the busiest bus route in Omaha will not have stops from 44th to 54th street, making it basically impossible for people with disabilities like her, (wheelchair bound, amputated leg) who rely on the #2 and live in that area to continue using it.

I realize Underwood is not an option given the continuing construction in Dundee, but why not just keep it on Farnam from 44th to 52nd? Instead they are detouring to Farnam then going back on Dodge and having no stops? It would still be an inconvenience but not as unmanageable.

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Postby nativeomahan » Tue Sep 17, 2013 6:20 am

Any time there is disruption to people's lives they complain.  It is only natural.  But in 8 weeks it will all be forgotten.

Still, if all they are doing is grinding off the top couple of inches of asphalt and replacing it with with a couple inches of asphalt, why does that take almost two months?  Do the work at night, let traffic drive on the ground down lanes during the day, and then resurface at night. Only grind up one night what you can resurface the next night.  That minimizes the area of disruption. This is how such projects have been done in Omaha for many years.

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Postby iamjacobm » Fri Sep 20, 2013 1:36 pm

In front of UNMC they have the street ground down to the old brick streets and there are some streetcar tracks showing up as well.  Pretty cool to see the history under there.

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Postby l-dude » Fri Sep 20, 2013 4:21 pm

I remember those "tracks".  Unless you owned a auto (guestimating less than 50% did...mid WWII era), if you're from north of Ames St (really north of Cuming St), you took the streetcar south on 16th, or 24th (my neighborhood), transferd to west bound at either Douglas ...(which, then at about 40th, it turned north and then followed Dodge west to(I don't remember?)), or Leavenworth, which took you out to Aksarben (end of the line) which was prophetic, if you liked to bet on the "ponys".

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Postby jessep28 » Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:41 pm

nativeomahan wrote:Any time there is disruption to people's lives they complain.  It is only natural.  But in 8 weeks it will all be forgotten.

Still, if all they are doing is grinding off the top couple of inches of asphalt and replacing it with with a couple inches of asphalt, why does that take almost two months?  Do the work at night, let traffic drive on the ground down lanes during the day, and then resurface at night. Only grind up one night what you can resurface the next night.  That minimizes the area of disruption. This is how such projects have been done in Omaha for many years.


Maybe not so much the milling, but there might be temperature issues that prevents them from laying asphalt at night.
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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Sat Sep 21, 2013 3:28 pm

There could be a noise ordinance preventing night work.
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Postby Uffda » Sat Sep 21, 2013 6:21 pm

Dodge Street road work stirs up Dundee streetcar memories

http://www.omaha.com/article/20130921/M ... r-memories

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Postby nativeomahan » Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:43 pm

jessep28 wrote:
nativeomahan wrote:Any time there is disruption to people's lives they complain.  It is only natural.  But in 8 weeks it will all be forgotten.

Still, if all they are doing is grinding off the top couple of inches of asphalt and replacing it with with a couple inches of asphalt, why does that take almost two months?  Do the work at night, let traffic drive on the ground down lanes during the day, and then resurface at night. Only grind up one night what you can resurface the next night.  That minimizes the area of disruption. This is how such projects have been done in Omaha for many years.


Maybe not so much the milling, but there might be temperature issues that prevents them from laying asphalt at night.


You can lay asphalt from 30 degrees up to 230 degrees.  I used to do it when I was much younger.

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:20 am

About a half of a mile has been resurfaced on 132nd Street between Harrison and Q.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:33 am

108th between Dodge and Blondo finally has been too. That stretch was horrible. Although it's too bad that they don't just widen this section already. I would have thought with the new TDA HQ that this would have gotten pushed up due to more people going this way.

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Postby zane2049 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 8:59 pm

They really should repave Ames Street, it is one of the worst surfaces in the city.

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Postby S33 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:23 pm

Lotta 24' rims getting dinged up on Ames, huh?
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Postby Uffda » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:27 pm

S33 wrote:Lotta 24' rims getting dinged up on Ames, huh?


:roll:

Ames has been pretty bad for several years from 30th to 72nd.

I saw they redid fort from 90th to military. And 72nd from either blood or maple to military

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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:33 pm

Uffda wrote:
S33 wrote:Lotta 24' rims getting dinged up on Ames, huh?


:roll:

Ames has been pretty bad for several years from 30th to 72nd.

I saw they redid fort from 90th to military. And 72nd from either blood or maple to military


Is Omaha awesome enough to have a street named 'Blood?'
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Postby S33 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:34 pm

Uffda wrote:
S33 wrote:Lotta 24' rims getting dinged up on Ames, huh?


:roll:

Ames has been pretty bad for several years from 30th to 72nd.

I saw they redid fort from 90th to military. And 72nd from either blood or maple to military
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Postby Uffda » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:39 pm

S33 wrote:
Uffda wrote:
S33 wrote:Lotta 24' rims getting dinged up on Ames, huh?


:roll:

Ames has been pretty bad for several years from 30th to 72nd.

I saw they redid fort from 90th to military. And 72nd from either blood or maple to military
Why the eye roll?


Stupid comment eye roll  :roll:

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Postby S33 » Mon Sep 23, 2013 9:46 pm

Maybe a little off-handed, dry humor, but nothing about it was inherently "stupid." Drive down Ames, you may get the comment.

My guess is that you, like every other overly politically correct nutjob in America, drew a racial connotation between "24' rims" on Ames street. In other words, you were offended without even really knowing why you were offended, so you lashed out with an eye roll.

I knew immediately after I typed it, I would get that response from you.

It's kind of funny, really.
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Postby RNcyanide » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:03 pm

Now, now.
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Postby Uffda » Mon Sep 23, 2013 10:28 pm

[quote="S33"]

My guess is that you, like every other overly politically correct nutjob in America, drew a racial connotation between "24' rims" on Ames street. In other words, you were offended without even really knowing why you were offended, so you lashed out with an eye roll.

I knew immediately after I typed it, I would get that response from you.

It's kind of funny, really.[/


I have driven down Ames often don't seen all these 24" rims you are dreaming about.

Expecting that comment from me - you don't know me do you?  

By the way my car has 18" rims - Ames is a rough side, no matter what you have as rims.

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Postby stillsjud » Tue Sep 24, 2013 1:17 am

I never post on this forum, but I would also like to say that "NoHomo" guy, with his stupid jokes, are ruining it for me too. I want to know about Omaha. I don't want to know what some fart cloud with a guy in it thinks....

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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:16 am

stillsjud wrote:I never post on this forum, but I would also like to say that "NoHomo" guy, with his stupid jokes, are ruining it for me too. I want to know about Omaha. I don't want to know what some fart cloud with a guy in it thinks....


Really? One person is ruining this forum for you? Wow.
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Postby S33 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:40 am

lol. awfully dramatic, considering I post... maybe a couple times a week.
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:48 am

S33 wrote:lol. awfully dramatic, considering I post... maybe a couple times a week.


S33, you're really ruining this forum for me  :sarcasm:
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Postby guitarguy » Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:35 am

On the other hand S33 is improving the forum for me haha  8)

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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Tue Sep 24, 2013 12:22 pm

Yeah. I mean I'd probably contribute more if I weren't so worried about S33, that No Homo guy, diluting all my discussions with his anal gassy-ness. I had a lot of valid points to make on a variety of discussion topics, but decided against posting them because, you know, jokes.
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Postby S33 » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:03 pm

lol. well just for the guy whose experience on this forum I have ruined, I will post nothing but links from the OWH, from now on.
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Postby nebugeater » Tue Sep 24, 2013 3:13 pm

S33 wrote:lol. well just for the guy whose experience on this forum I have ruined, I will post nothing but links from the OWH, from now on.



NOW you will ruin my Expereince here!   :;):
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Sep 24, 2013 4:14 pm

Yes. A humorless and sterile environment will enhance my learning about Omaha, Nebraska.
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Postby stillsjud » Wed Sep 25, 2013 2:17 am

!!!! I love this forum. I just think that guy isn't funny. WHATEVER NERDS! Leave me alone! I'm going back into hiding!


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