180th Through Sarpy County

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180th Through Sarpy County

Postby HR Paperstacks » Fri Oct 16, 2015 7:57 pm

Splitting this from Development in and around Gretna

Sarpy county has come up with this road plan for the northwest portion of the county.

I personally think it's stupid since they are making 180th discontinuous as an arterial street due to existing development despite the fact it's been in MAPA's LRTP for a while now. They plan on putting an interchange in at I-80, yet they want to make 180th south from Giles go to 192nd to 370 instead to avoid existing development. Then from 370 south it would be 180th that would be the arterial street. This would cause people going south to have to take 370 from 192nd to get back to 180th and people going north would have to do the opposite.

Thinking into how people get around, they are still going to take 180th, which will have a much lower capacity that the route they have planned and will have to deal with that in the future. And then they are going to deal with major traffic problems due to this decision. To me it seems very short-sighted just to avoid existing development that should have know better.

http://www.sarpy.com/pcommission/docume ... Street.pdf

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby daveoma » Fri Oct 16, 2015 9:54 pm

WTH? That's makes no sense. I don't think that will work at all.
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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby Coyote » Sat Oct 17, 2015 10:52 am

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby michaelsjewel » Sun Oct 18, 2015 9:56 am

Well, the only good thing I see on this PDF is that they plan to make platteview an expressway like that of hwy 75.

It is strange to have 180th diverted though.
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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby Brad » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:10 pm

There are neighborhoods being planned North of Giles and west of 180th on that map. They will basically fill in the open areas on that map. Construction might even get underway this fall.
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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby cdub » Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:27 am

The 192nd st alignment is better as you approach the Interstate. Thats why this is happening. Its an effort jointly with Sarpy and Omaha to keep the traffic on the same road, whatever you call it. 180 was always designed as primary in Omaha, but Sarpy focused on 192 due to interchange/bridge/ROW issues in their jurisdiction.

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby HR Paperstacks » Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:10 pm

But the interchange is going to be put in at 180th. I could understand routing it to 192nd if they were going to build the interchange there.

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby cdub » Tue Oct 20, 2015 10:30 am

The interchange will likely be more in line with 192 than 180.

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby mcarch » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:31 pm

This plan will cause more traffic in the future when the area builds out. They'll be causing 2 "need to fix" intersections. Cars traveling north will need to turn right, and those traveling south will want to turn left. Opposite geos for the 192nd and recommended corridor intersection. People going North will want to turn left to 192nd. Unless they get light timing correct (and usually they don't) there will be backups in the turning lanes. They need to stick to the grid pattern as much as possible otherwise they screw with traffic patterns. When you can't control where traffic will go (you can try) the best bet is the grid pattern.

And don't get me started at going north on 180th to then turn right to then turn left on Giles... or flipped on 192nd.

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Re: 180th Through Sarpy County

Postby Trips » Wed Oct 28, 2015 10:41 am

You are going to have three new schools in that area. I would expect the Elementary traffic to use 192nd, but the High and Middle Schools would use 180th.

The Aspen Creek developers should be REQUIRED to put a traffic light in on 192nd Street before they start the North addition. If you choose to develop a neighborhood having safe intersections should be required just like paving the main streets. Right now it is not uncommon to wait 5+ minutes for a less dangerous time to cut across and turn east in the morning. Add in 200 - 700 additional cars from Aspen Creek and there is going to be a mess.

When Kingsbury Hills asked for a light on 114th and 370 the county said ok but you have to pay for it. This will be 3x worse and someone will be seriously injured.

PS: I hate lights on 370 and think it needs to be an expressway but safety first.


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