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Omababe wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:Hardly cause for any "envy", lol.. I'll take my 2 million more annual passenger count and say thank you very much :;): ..
I was unaware of any rivalry between Omaha and Des Moines for air traffic.
There isn't any. Just a good clean, light-hearted joke :) ...

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damonhynes wrote:Houston ups the ante by terming their airport "Bush Intercontinental". I prefer to call it "Intergalactic" :D
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Greater Green River Intergalactic Spaceport
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Just saw on KETV DSM is trying to get some of the Trump infrastructure money for a $500MM airport expansion...
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OmahaJaysCU wrote:Just saw on KETV DSM is trying to get some of the Trump infrastructure money for a $500MM airport expansion...
No doubt as part of their ambitious plan for direct flights to Paris, London, and Tokyo.
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http://www.ketv.com/article/nearby-airp ... ey/8637012
Ok, this makes almost 0 sense to me. If we're really going to spend money on roads and let other airports take the glory, lets start with the fact that Dodge is overused and extremely congested especially during rush hour. It is the only expressway or interstate connecting west Omaha to the rest of the city. Omaha needs either beltways or new solutions. I'm not really informed about these other projects, but I'm not sure that they are more important seeing that in the next 10 years West Omaha's traffic may be some of the worst in the midwest if we don't plan ahead...
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For kicks and giggles I just peeped into Des Moines' forums and every reference to Eppley has International in the name. :lol: 8)
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buildomaha wrote:For kicks and giggles I just peeped into Des Moines' forums and every reference to Eppley has International in the name. :lol: 8)
Care to share the URL? Might be interesting when I have some time to kill. :)
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Omababe wrote:
buildomaha wrote:For kicks and giggles I just peeped into Des Moines' forums and every reference to Eppley has International in the name. :lol: 8)
Care to share the URL? Might be interesting when I have some time to kill. :)
I believe these are the links for your enjoyment-

http://www.businessrecord.com/Content/T ... /837/76093


http://www.dsmairport.com/webres/File/a ... 0FINAL.pdf

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buildomaha wrote:http://www.urbandsm.com/forum/viewtopic ... start=2310
Newest reply corrected the error. :lol:
Someone must be stalking our forums...
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buildomaha wrote:
buildomaha wrote:http://www.urbandsm.com/forum/viewtopic ... start=2310
Newest reply corrected the error. :lol:
Someone must be stalking our forums...
Well, it would appear the "rivalry" is a one sided DSM thing; at least with a few of the boosters over there.. But considering the sources of the rhetoric posted, its par for the course, lol ..

Anywho, moving on...

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Thanks. :)
Didn't they mean Eppley Regional Landing Strip?
**MEOW!**

It looks like their main concern appears to be their loss of some paying passengers to the larger airports (including Eppley) within a semi-reasonable driving distance. I do admit that when I'm booking a pleasure trip I'll sometimes check DSM (and even LNK) if the fares out of Eppley seem high. With rare exception (such as LNK's former Allegiant service) Eppley is cheaper. I'm very sure that's the main reason for any "leakage" of passengers.

I was kind of amused that one of their concerns seems to be restroom lines. (Eppley has really improved on that one!) I daresay those complaining must not be familiar with landing at the A concourse at MDW or B at LGA! It also amuses me that so many people do not realize that instead of waiting on line, all they need to do is to walk a bit farther to one that is far less crowded! Eppley has (had? It's been a long time.) a "secret" one around the corner south of the food court but it's seldom necessary anymore.

Oh well, so it goes ...
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Per Paige Yowell / World-Herald staff-writer:
With rise in flight capacity, Eppley Airfield is taking off in the industry

http://www.omaha.com/money/with-rise-in ... ce130.html
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choke wrote:Per Paige Yowell / World-Herald staff-writer:
With rise in flight capacity, Eppley Airfield is taking off in the industry

http://www.omaha.com/money/with-rise-in ... ce130.html
Excellent piece by the W-H..

Eppley Airfield is positioning itself to continue its robust growth. A great sign for the business climate and health of Omaha..and not too shabby for the leisure traveler either :thumb: ...

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High-fliers

Omaha's Eppley Airfield was one of the nation's 10 fastest-growing airports in 2016 when it comes to airlines adding "capacity," or seats available for customers to buy.

SJC San Jose: +12.55%

PDX Portland: +10.18%

BNA Nashville: +9.51%

SEA Seattle: +9.42%

MCI Kansas City: +9.37%

DEN Denver: +9.12%

RDU Raleigh-Durham: +9.10%

FLL Fort Lauderdale: +9.07%

OMA Eppley Airfield: +9.02%

IND Indianapolis Airport: +8.97%

How other airports fared:

STL St. Louis: +8.62%

MSP Minneapolis: +4.25%

ORD Chicago-O'Hare: +2.88%

IAH Houston-Int'l: -4,03%
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So at 4.75 they may! build a new concourse but the big rebuild we talk about wont happen until 5.4. Like i said the airport will have structural failures before it reaches these numbers.
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Greetings all! I know its been a while.

I've been thinking of a rather "pie in the sky" plan for Eppley. It may never happen but one can dream.
Change the river channel north of the airport so that it turns east-northeast just south of the north Omaha power plant. The river would turn south at Hamlet Lane/River Road North where it crosses Pigeon Creek then reconnect to the current channel at the current mouth of Pigeon Creek.
This would provide space, once the old channel was filled in, to allow runway expansion. The main runway that is 9500' currently could be extended to 14,000'. This would allow aircraft like the 777, 787, and A350 to operate from Eppley in the hottest most humid days. I would not imagine we would need to make allowances for type F aircraft like the 747-8i or A380.
Another benefit would be a shorter crossing length for the 16th street bridge for the Storz expressway connector to exit one on 680.

Like I said, a big dream, an expensive dream. If airports like San Jose can have intercontinental connections, why cant we?
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zedmib wrote: Like I said, a big dream, an expensive dream. If airports like San Jose can have intercontinental connections, why cant we?
If you mean international connections, San Jose is part of a metro area of about 9 million people. Omaha argues whether a 10 story or 14 story building constitutes "skyline changing".
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zedmib wrote:Greetings all! I know its been a while.

I've been thinking of a rather "pie in the sky" plan for Eppley. It may never happen but one can dream.
Change the river channel north of the airport so that it turns east-northeast just south of the north Omaha power plant. The river would turn south at Hamlet Lane/River Road North where it crosses Pigeon Creek then reconnect to the current channel at the current mouth of Pigeon Creek.
This would provide space, once the old channel was filled in, to allow runway expansion. The main runway that is 9500' currently could be extended to 14,000'. This would allow aircraft like the 777, 787, and A350 to operate from Eppley in the hottest most humid days. I would not imagine we would need to make allowances for type F aircraft like the 747-8i or A380.
Another benefit would be a shorter crossing length for the 16th street bridge for the Storz expressway connector to exit one on 680.

Like I said, a big dream, an expensive dream. If airports like San Jose can have intercontinental connections, why cant we?
Welcome back zedmib.. I like your style of thinking :thumb: ..

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From today's W-H Editorial section:

"The increased demand and availability of flights at Eppley Airfield over the past year are a positive in two big ways.

They show the vitality of the Omaha area’s current economy. They also provide encouragement for further progress in the future.

Eppley increased its flight capacity — available seats for purchase — by 9 percent last year over 2015, an increase of 446,000 seats.

Only eight other U.S. airports recorded a higher percentage of growth.

Eppley served about 4.3 million people last year, up 4.2 percent from 2015."...

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http://www.omaha.com/opinion/editorial- ... a8ffc.html

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Omaha Cowboy wrote:From today's W-H Editorial section:

"...Eppley served about 4.3 million people last year, up 4.2 percent from 2015."...
I wouldn't be me if I didn't pick on the local monopoly fishwrap. Yes I suppose 4,349,486 is "about" 4.3 million, but it's really closer to "about" 4.35 million. Oh, an it was up over 4.3 percent, but close.

I know there are more pressing issues these days but seriously owh, how about taking a shot at some semblance of accuracy. I'm paraphrasing but a long time ago Warren Buffett, owner of the local monopoly fishwrap, said that once a newspaper has a monopoly there is no incentive to improve the quality of the news. Ask the Buffalo News.
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NovakOmaha wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:From today's W-H Editorial section:

"...Eppley served about 4.3 million people last year, up 4.2 percent from 2015."...
I wouldn't be me if I didn't pick on the local monopoly fishwrap. Yes I suppose 4,349,486 is "about" 4.3 million, but it's really closer to "about" 4.35 million. Oh, an it was up over 4.3 percent, but close.

I know there are more pressing issues these days but seriously owh, how about taking a shot at some semblance of accuracy. I'm paraphrasing but a long time ago Warren Buffett, owner of the local monopoly fishwrap, said that once a newspaper has a monopoly there is no incentive to improve the quality of the news. Ask the Buffalo News.
Now that is not something that I would complain about. There are plenty of things to give the OWH |expletive| about but not this. It is factual and if they took your approach the nit pickers would just want them to add another place holder of detail.
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So Eppley is giving us the silent treatment on 2017 stats? March 5 & no January or February numbers? They were usually out with prior month's numbers by around the 20th. Something they don't want to share with the public?
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NovakOmaha wrote:So Eppley is giving us the silent treatment on 2017 stats? March 5 & no January or February numbers? They were usually out with prior month's numbers by around the 20th. Something they don't want to share with the public?
I don't think it's something they are trying to hide. I just think they are lazy with their website. Idk of anyone else has noticed but their site has been hacked for me for like 6 months.
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Since I have been playing with numbers this morning:

2016 - 4,349,483 +4.3
2015 - 4,169,467 +1.3
2014 - 4,119,730 +1.9
2013 - 4,042,333 -2.1
2012 - 4,127,344 -2.0
2011 - 4,212,399 -1.7
2010 - 4,287,428 +1.7
2009 - 4,217,718 -3.5
2008 - 4,370,137 -1.2
2007 - 4,421,274 +4.5
2006 - 4,229,856 +0.9
2005 - 4,193,047 +8.4
2004 - 3,868,217 +5.5
2003 - 3,667,190 +1.6
2002 - 3,608,231
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2016 vs 2015
Dec 349,193 +5.7
Nov 359,274 +6.7
Oct 385,361 +6.0
Sep 366,228 +9.8
Aug 360,045 +3.3
Jul 400,059 +2.7
Jun 424,104 +7.9
May 387,157 +1.7
Apr 338,524 +1.8
Mar 371,282 +0.4
Feb 301,994 +3.7
Jan 306,265 +2.1
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Just playing with the math, if OMA has a 5% increase over 2016 it would be 4,566,357 a record. At a 6% increase it would be 4,610,451. 6% for 2018 puts you at 4,887,079. Another 6% bump in 2019 and you're at 5,180,303 and you're hitting a pretty big target for terminal expansion, yes?
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NovakOmaha wrote:Just playing with the math, if OMA has a 5% increase over 2016 it would be 4,566,357 a record. At a 6% increase it would be 4,610,451. 6% for 2018 puts you at 4,887,079. Another 6% bump in 2019 and you're at 5,180,303 and you're hitting a pretty big target for terminal expansion, yes?
What if Omaha added more Non-Stop Destinations? I think it could grow better.

Eppley now has 20+ Non-Stop Destinations:
Seattle
Portland
San Francisco
Oakland
Las Angeles
Las Vegas
Phoenix
Salt Lake City
Denver
Dallas (DFW)
Dallas (DAL)
Houston (HOU)
Houston (IAH)
Minneapolis
Chicago (ORD)
Chicago (MDW)
St Louis
Detroit
New York City (LGA)
New York City (EWR)
Washington D.C. (DCA)
Charlotte
Atlanta
Orlando (SFB)
Orlando (MCO)
Tampa Bay
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So the next big fish are what? Philly, Boston and Miami?
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I think that was accurate, Eppley's website may be. Few years out of date in places...
I wonder if there are any records on final destinations.
Where are people already going to that would suggest a Non-Stop...
Here was the map I was getting info:

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Or if they added another airline? I think this is the current list:
  • Alaska Airlines: Seattle/Tacoma
  • Alaska Airlines (operated by SkyWest Airlines): Portland (OR)
  • Allegiant Air: Orlando/Sanford, St. Petersburg/Clearwater (Seasonal: Oakland)
  • American Airlines: Dallas/Fort Worth, Los Angeles, Phoenix–Sky Harbor
  • American Eagle: Charlotte, Chicago–O'Hare, Dallas/Fort Worth
  • Delta Airlines: Atlanta, Minneapolis/St. Paul (Seasonal: Detroit, Salt Lake City)
  • Delta Connection: Atlanta, Detroit, Minneapolis/St. Paul, New York–LaGuardia, Salt Lake City, Washington–National
  • Frontier Airlines: Denver, Orlando
  • Southwest Airlines: Chicago–Midway, Dallas–Love, Denver, Houston–Hobby (begins March 9, 2017), Las Vegas, Phoenix–Sky Harbor, St. Louis, Washington–National(Seasonal: Los Angeles, Orlando)
  • United Airlines: Chicago–O'Hare, Denver(Seasonal: Houston–Intercontinental)
  • United Express: Chicago–O'Hare, Denver, Houston–Intercontinental, Newark, San Francisco
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Kinda down to Spirit and JetBlue aren't we? Virgin is merging with Alaskan.

I guess there are regional options. GI used to fly into Omaha a decade ago it looks like. I don't know if flying them or Sioux City into Omaha makes much since when they already fly into Dallas and Chicago respectively and get all the connections that they want.
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Candidates for expansion:

Miami
Ft. Lauderdale (Both MIA and FLL are gateways to South & Central America)
Philadelphia (Intl Gateway)
Boston (Intl Gateway)
Memphis (?)
Nashville (?)
Austin
San Antonio
San Diego
JFK (Huge Intl Gateway)
BWI
Dulles (Another Intl Gateway)
Ft. Myers

And if you're expanding the terminal why not add a dedicated international gate?
Toronto
Cancun
Puerto Vallarta

Now, as far as Spirit, ignore most of what you've heard. We've flown them to Ft Lauderdale and La Guardia. Yes, the seats aren't comparable to United or Delta but I'm about 6" tall and really haven't had a problem. Going to Ft Lauderdale we flew non stop & it was at least half the fares of Delta and Southwest. The latest trip to La Guardia was $94 total round trip for my wife & 17 year old daughter and we bought the tickets 3 days before they went, AND they stayed less than a day. It was a last minute quick trip. Yes, you pay for bags and more but if you play the game right you know exactly what you're paying before you get out your credit card. In addition, here's the bottom line: Plane was clean, crew was friendly and most importantly we left on time & arrived early on all but one flight and that one was delayed out of La Guardia because of air traffic control restrictions by about an hour. No big deal.
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Allegient: Cincinnati
American: Philadelphia
Delta: Boston, Cincinnati
Frontier: Cleveland
JetBlue: Boston, Long Beach
Southwest: Baltimore, Milwaukee, Nashville
Spirit: Atlantic City
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Coyote wrote:Allegient: Cincinnati
American: Philadelphia
Delta: Boston, Cincinnati
Frontier: Cleveland
JetBlue: Boston, Long Beach
Southwest: Baltimore, Milwaukee, Nashville
Spirit: Atlantic City
I wouldn't mind competition to STL.

Also mainline American to CLT.
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Coyote wrote: I wonder if there are any records on final destinations.
Where are people already going to that would suggest a Non-Stop...
This is passengers daily each way for the 2nd quarter of 2016 (most recent data available).
Mr.Nuke wrote:Quarter 2 PDEW

Chicago- 374
D.C.- 323
L.A.- 292
Denver- 278
NYC- 252
Phoenix- 250
Dallas- 220
Las Vegas- 202
San Francisco- 176
Orlando- 160
Atlanta- 145
Seattle- 120
St. Louis- 115
Houston- 103
Boston- 100
Portland- 97
Tampa- 93
San Diego- 90
Minneapolis- 76
Charlotte- 74
Miami- 73
Detroit- 65
Philadelphia- 64
Salt Lake City- 59
Nashville- 53
San Antonio- 50
Sacramento- 48
Austin- 43
Raleigh Durham- 43
New Orleans- 39
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Thanks Mr Nuke :thumb:
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iamjacobm wrote:So the next big fish are what? Philly, Boston and Miami?
I would switch out Philly for San Diego in my top 3, but Philadelphia is close too.
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