The "Sea of Parking" debate

the1wags · Post by **the1wags** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 5:38 pm

Quick DTO, $9 wine!

Regarding the parking, those developers could also get more money for secure garage parking spots as opposed to surface spots.

Uffda · Post by **Uffda** » Fri Jan 09, 2009 7:55 pm

But people only want to pay so much for an apartment. Also depends on where these apt would be. And also how long would it take them to justify $250,000 per building?

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Tue Jan 13, 2009 8:25 am

Brad wrote: I don't blame the developers with the parking requirements they must follow.

The price is one thing. Â Their decision making has nothing to do with these parking requirements. Â Most developers know that they cant sell or lease units that dont have parking. Â Even when there is NO parking required they are bending over backwards to provide 1-2 spaces per unit.

Post by **Brad** » Wed Feb 25, 2009 11:11 pm

Interesting little parking note from "NASCAR Now" on ESPN2

Dallas Cowboys new Stadium - parking $75 per car
American Airlines Arena (Mavericks and Stars) - $35 per car
Texas Motor Speedway - Free Parking (Reserved seat tickets starting at $20 and you can bring a cooler in with you)

Makes $6 at the Qwest Center seem cheep!

StreetsOfOmaha · Post by **StreetsOfOmaha** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:16 am

This is exactly why the city needs to implement new tax incentives that encourage the type of development we all want to see.

If developers got a huge tax break for adding multi-level parking garages with mixed uses at street-level, or underground parking, they would oblige.

Most developers are only thinking about money, so if you make it financially beneficial to develop things the right way, they'll do it. Better yet, MAKE them do it.

Bugeater · Post by **Bugeater** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:52 pm

Brad wrote:Dallas Cowboys new Stadium - parking $75 per car

That is absofreakinglutely insane.

the1wags · Post by **the1wags** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:45 pm

Yeah, yet today at work I overheard two people talking about where they park for Qwest events because they absolutely refuse to pay $6. It's good that they will park and walk, but you shoulda heard them. "You pay what you do for tickets and then they want $6 on top of it? I for one won't do it." Â :roll:

thenewguy · Post by **thenewguy** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 6:51 pm

shoulda hit em in the head with a tack hammer.

I don't get that either. Â I think it's small town type of mentality; my mom and grandma were talking about that once after i attended an event at the Qwest, and thought it was just insane that i paid $6 to park. Â Beats walking there all the way from my house, i guess.

joeglow · Post by **joeglow** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 7:47 pm

Brad wrote:Interesting little parking note from "NASCAR Now" on ESPN2

Dallas Cowboys new Stadium - parking $75 per car
American Airlines Arena (Mavericks and Stars) - $35 per car
Texas Motor Speedway - Free Parking (Reserved seat tickets starting at $20 and you can bring a cooler in with you)

Makes $6 at the Qwest Center seem cheep!

What parking spots are they talking about? Â I was at a Lakers-Mavericks game and parking was nowhere near that much outside of the lots right next to the arena. Â We paid $10 to park about as far away as I usually end up parking at the Qwest.

Post by **Brad** » Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:17 pm

joeglow wrote:
Brad wrote:Interesting little parking note from "NASCAR Now" on ESPN2

Dallas Cowboys new Stadium - parking $75 per car
American Airlines Arena (Mavericks and Stars) - $35 per car
Texas Motor Speedway - Free Parking (Reserved seat tickets starting at $20 and you can bring a cooler in with you)

Makes $6 at the Qwest Center seem cheep!
What parking spots are they talking about? I was at a Lakers-Mavericks game and parking was nowhere near that much outside of the lots right next to the arena. We paid $10 to park about as far away as I usually end up parking at the Qwest.

No Idea, that's just what was on TV???

DTO Luv · Post by **DTO Luv** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:23 am

One of my mom's elderly friends called me and asked where the free parking DT was because her and her 80 year old neighbor wanted to go to the home and garden show on a day it was freezing cold outside. They said they didn't want to pay to park because it would to expensive and it was ok for two people in their 60's and one in their 80's to walk from the far away free spots instead of coming up with the $2 per person to park across the goddam street from the Qwest.

Garrett · Post by **Garrett** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:01 pm

Thats sad in so many ways.

Uffda · Post by **Uffda** » Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:02 pm

Just a different generation's train of thought.

Personally I have always wondered why the QWEST doesn't charge $5 -- much easier to make change instead of someone having to count out four $1 plus whatever else.

Post by **Brad** » Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:58 pm

Uffda wrote:Just a different generation's train of thought.

Personally I have always wondered why the QWEST doesn't charge $5 -- much easier to make change instead of someone having to count out four $1 plus whatever else.

I was telling Coyote, Omaha Cowboy, and DTO when we were walking from our free spot to the qwest today that I would guess it won't be $6 when the ballpark is done. Â It would surprise me if its less than 10 during the CWS.

the1wags · Post by **the1wags** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 10:02 am

Yeah and everyone will |expletive| about it even though they're paying 10-20 to park in someones yard now.

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 7:31 am

The City is more than willing to work with developers on parking requirements. Â Much of the time it is the developers themselves that want the parking, not the City forcing it upon them.

TitosBuritoBarn · Post by **TitosBuritoBarn** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 1:52 pm

cdub wrote:The City is more than willing to work with developers on parking requirements. Much of the time it is the developers themselves that want the parking, not the City forcing it upon them.

I'm convinced that most developers are half re...uh..mentally challenged. Most developments have many useless parking spots and/or unnecessarily large landscape buffers from the street that could be turned into leasable buildings. Leased buildings = profit. Parking lots = expense. :?

Same with housing developments. So many have wasted space or unnecessarily large lots. More homes equals more money, right?

Why don't they maximize space? Their current practices are sloppy and wasteful and costing them profits.

Post by **Brad** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 2:05 pm

Most projects I work on use every inch of space they are allowed by zoning laws/setbacks. Â The cities require "X" spots per square foot of building, the buildings can also only cover "X"% of the lot and most lots have a decent sized setback/green space requirements. Â Most developers want to cram the most retail space in that they can.

There are also a lot of new Storm Water Quality laws that are requiring more and more space.

cdub · Post by **cdub** » Wed Jun 03, 2009 3:30 pm

Brad wrote:Most projects I work on use every inch of space they are allowed by zoning laws/setbacks. The cities require "X" spots per square foot of building, the buildings can also only cover "X"% of the lot and most lots have a decent sized setback/green space requirements. Most developers want to cram the most retail space in that they can.

There are also a lot of new Storm Water Quality laws that are requiring more and more space.

In west O there is less flexibility and more regulation but cramming more strip mall onto a site isnt really a benefit. Â When projects are mixed use and urban there is a lot more flexibility.

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