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Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Brad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 9:33 am

About to talk about this on Grow Omaha

https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/ca ... 539179001/
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Coyote » Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:11 am

2 million sq ft manucturing building with 1 million sq ft parts building.
It will need 1000-1500 acres somewhere close to the interstate.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby damonhynes » Sat Aug 12, 2017 3:36 pm

Coyote wrote:It will need 1000-1500 acres somewhere close to the interstate.


And with access to two railroads. If we're limiting this to Omaha metro, with trackage rights, it could be anywhere but for immediate two-railroad access...Glenwood? Plattsmouth?

RR access isn't the dealmaker though, it depends on what state/municipality will cough up the incentives. My money's on Texas.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Brad » Sat Aug 12, 2017 4:57 pm

Plattsmouth has 2, but Glenwood does not. Omaha, Bellevue, Fremont, Yutan, Lincoln, and Columbus. Southern Council Bluffs has 3 railroads when you throw in the IAIS RR.

Another thought, OPPD owns a rail line that runs from Lincoln to Nebraska City, and they recently re-opened the line. In Nebraska City the line connects to the UP, on the Lincoln end of the line, it connects to the BNSF. They recently re-opened the line and built a new grain facility near Syracuse, NE.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby damonhynes » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:49 am

Brad wrote:Plattsmouth has 2, but Glenwood does not.


You're right, but it ain't that far to Oreopolis, especially if Toyota 'suggested' BNSF share :-)

Brad wrote: Omaha, Bellevue, Fremont, Yutan, Lincoln, and Columbus. Southern Council Bluffs has 3 railroads when you throw in the IAIS RR.


I thought about throwing in CN, too but I'm not sure how much time-sensitive freight goes on either CN or IAIS.

Brad wrote: Another thought, OPPD owns a rail line that runs from Lincoln to Nebraska City, and they recently re-opened the line. In Nebraska City the line connects to the UP, on the Lincoln end of the line, it connects to the BNSF. They recently re-opened the line and built a new grain facility near Syracuse, NE.


OPPD subs out the train crew, and locomotives to UP, is that correct? Still good to see in any case.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby iamjacobm » Mon Aug 14, 2017 9:54 am

Did they say Nebraska is actually in the running? I saw there was a list of about 10 states floating around and Nebraska wasn't on it, but Iowa was.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Coyote » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:14 am

iamjacobm wrote:Did they say Nebraska is actually in the running?

Yes, Randy Thelen from the Chamber of Commerce was talking it up on Grow Omaha.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Brad » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:28 am

iamjacobm wrote:Did they say Nebraska is actually in the running? I saw there was a list of about 10 states floating around and Nebraska wasn't on it, but Iowa was.


Starts about the 21 min mark:
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby iamjacobm » Mon Aug 14, 2017 1:27 pm

Thanks, Ill give it a listen tonight.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby OmahaOmaha » Mon Aug 14, 2017 8:41 pm

I found this on the Jacksonville Business Journal. It doesn't look like Nebraska is on the list of states they are considering.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:43 pm

OmahaOmaha wrote:I found this on the Jacksonville Business Journal. It doesn't look like Nebraska is on the list of states they are considering.

https://www.bizjournals.com/jacksonvill ... -into.html


Not surprising. Although their story did, surprisingly, include the state of Iowa on their "states in the running" list.. Florida does not acknowledge Nebraska as an actual place.. Therfore, how could the Jacksonville Biz Jounal include "The Good Life State" on their list?..

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby choke » Tue Aug 15, 2017 8:52 pm

Was listening to a piece on NPR about globalization and they were interviewing a guy in Greenville, SC. They guy said the largest BMW plant in the world came down to Greenville, SC and Omaha, NE. I guess we know where that got built. But that was something I didn't know.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby iamjacobm » Wed Aug 16, 2017 8:59 am

Good to hear all of the organizations got organized quickly. Obviously incentives will be a big thing here, but I think getting a site organized will be important too. We saw that the Chamber learned that from early data center misses.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby NovakOmaha » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:00 am

choke wrote:Was listening to a piece on NPR about globalization and they were interviewing a guy in Greenville, SC. They guy said the largest BMW plant in the world came down to Greenville, SC and Omaha, NE. I guess we know where that got built. But that was something I didn't know.


Three deals Nebraska was in the running for. Micron Technology wanted to put a chip plant in Nebraska. It went to Utah. Mercedes. BMW. BMW went to SC because they had a port. Mercedes went to Alabama. Same deal.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Brad » Wed Aug 16, 2017 12:23 pm

I believe Trenton asked during the interview about needed a port and the answer was no because these cars are for US customers only.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby bigredmed1 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 4:22 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:
choke wrote:Was listening to a piece on NPR about globalization and they were interviewing a guy in Greenville, SC. They guy said the largest BMW plant in the world came down to Greenville, SC and Omaha, NE. I guess we know where that got built. But that was something I didn't know.


Three deals Nebraska was in the running for. Micron Technology wanted to put a chip plant in Nebraska. It went to Utah. Mercedes. BMW. BMW went to SC because they had a port. Mercedes went to Alabama. Same deal.


Mercedes wanted to be in the eastern time zone and used our leadership to beat up on Alabama. BMW wanted to be on the Atlantic and again our leaders at time time allowed them to string us along.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby jessep28 » Wed Aug 16, 2017 9:04 pm

Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby bigredmed1 » Thu Aug 17, 2017 7:39 am

jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Given the easy drive from Illinois and the economic collapse building there, I could see a big "No Problem!" line of UHauls heading west on I80.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby damonhynes » Thu Aug 17, 2017 8:49 am

Is anyone glad that Mircon didn't choose Nebraska? That company lays off chunks of their workforce so often it makes First Data blush.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby NovakOmaha » Thu Aug 17, 2017 9:27 am

I don't remember which one...I want to say BMW, but there was a rumor that one of them was actually ready to choose Nebraska but the land wasn't being offered for free. I also think it was something about shovel ready land. It's been a while and at my advanced age my memory isn't what it was.

When Micron was choosing the Unicameral rushed a series of incentives and bills through called "Micron Bills" that offered a ton of cash to them. It was a very big deal.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/405759/NEBRASKA-LEGISLATURE-MAY-WORK-OVERTIME-TO-OFFER-MICRON-GOODIES.html

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/1995/feb/14/micron-crosses-northwest-off-its-list-only-sites/

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby RNcyanide » Thu Aug 17, 2017 10:18 am

bigredmed1 wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Given the easy drive from Illinois and the economic collapse building there, I could see a big "No Problem!" line of UHauls heading west on I80.


Given the situation with Cabela's, I'm sure it'd be a godsend for Sidney.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby EricHaley » Thu Aug 17, 2017 5:51 pm

RNcyanide wrote:
bigredmed1 wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Given the easy drive from Illinois and the economic collapse building there, I could see a big "No Problem!" line of UHauls heading west on I80.


Given the situation with Cabela's, I'm sure it'd be a godsend for Sidney.


That is an excellent idea!

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jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Yes, and they would probably get at least 10 applicants for every position. These are good paying blue-collar jobs, and Nebraska should be bending over backwards to attract jobs like these.

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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby jessep28 » Fri Aug 18, 2017 11:10 am

ricko wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Yes, and they would probably get at least 10 applicants for every position. These are good paying blue-collar jobs, and Nebraska should be bending over backwards to attract jobs like these.


Not if it involves the legislature and local governments writing a blank check. A multi billion dollar auto manufacturer should build a plant with 100% of their own money.
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Re: Toyota looking to build new US plant

Postby Greg S » Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:32 pm

jessep28 wrote:
ricko wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Would Nebraska have the labor pool to staff a 1-2,000 employee car factory?


Yes, and they would probably get at least 10 applicants for every position. These are good paying blue-collar jobs, and Nebraska should be bending over backwards to attract jobs like these.


Not if it involves the legislature and local governments writing a blank check. A multi billion dollar auto manufacturer should build a plant with 100% of their own money.



Unfortunately that's not the way it works. Whether it's moving or building a new high-rise HQ or a manufacturer, incentives will be involved.

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