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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Coyote » Fri Nov 04, 2016 11:13 am

Just remember that your passport expires after 10 years, but you have an extra year grace period to get it renewed. I found out the hard way...
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby nebugeater » Fri Nov 04, 2016 3:35 pm

Coyote wrote:Just remember that your passport expires after 10 years, but you have an extra year grace period to get it renewed. I found out the hard way...



SO did I. That is why when I redid mine about a year ago I had to provide all the documentation again.
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Bugeater » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:55 pm

Heh, I came here to start this exact thread, and I see Brad was a year ahead of me. Guess I didn't notice last year but this year it's getting ridiculous. I get off of I-680 at Maple at least once a day and EVERY SINGLE TIME there is someone there. Not always the same person though. I am also seeing them at a lot of other off ramps lately too, maybe they rotate? But whatever, it's out of hand and needs to be addressed.
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Bugeater » Mon Nov 14, 2016 8:57 pm

Coyote wrote:Rules for panhandling get overhaul

Roseann Moring - World-Herald staff write wrote:The Omaha City Council approved an overhaul to the city’s panhandling ordinance Tuesday, and council members said they’re working on further changes that would ban panhandling in street medians.

Wait, this explains the off ramp trend, it's probably a loophole to this ordinance. Why can't it be outlawed altogether?
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby choke » Mon Nov 14, 2016 9:17 pm

I hand out Open Door Mission cards that they give me when I make a donation at their facility.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Omababe » Tue Nov 15, 2016 4:40 am

choke wrote:I hand out Open Door Mission cards that they give me when I make a donation at their facility.


Not to be cynical, but with Omaha having what appears to be a good selection of agencies that those down on their luck can turn to, how many of those who regularly panhandle (the one intersection by "Oakroads" seems to have a semi-permanent "vendor") are not really that bad off.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby choke » Thu Nov 17, 2016 8:28 pm

Omababe wrote:
choke wrote:I hand out Open Door Mission cards that they give me when I make a donation at their facility.


Not to be cynical, but with Omaha having what appears to be a good selection of agencies that those down on their luck can turn to, how many of those who regularly panhandle (the one intersection by "Oakroads" seems to have a semi-permanent "vendor") are not really that bad off.


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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby nebugeater » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:39 am

Cedar Rapids IA is considering an ordinance that seems simple and effective if enforced.

http://www.kcrg.com/content/news/Panhan ... 98763.html


CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (KCRG-TV9) - The Cedar Rapids City Council will debate a pedestrian safety ordinance at Tuesday's meeting that would target panhandling along city streets.

The city has debated ways to deal with panhandling for years. KCRG-TV9 spoke with panhandlers last year, one of whom admitted there were panhandlers asking for money for "the wrong reasons".

The new pedestrian safety rules would ban pedestrians from entering the roadway to enter or exchange anything with an occupant of a vehicle. It also specifically forbids pedestrians from specific intersections where panhandlers now frequent: I-380 exits at Blairs Ferry Rd. NE, H Ave. NE, Wilson Ave. SW, 29th Street NE, 32nd Street NE, and the corner of Collins Cr. and Center Point Rd. NE.

The rules would also limit the amount of time pedestrians could be in an intersection.

The city council debated a specific ban on panhandling several years ago but stopped short of passing the ban because of worries it would impact the fire department's Fill the Boot fundraiser for the Muscular Dystrophy Association. Ironically, permission for the Fill the Boot campaign is also on Tuesday's city council agenda.
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby buildomaha » Tue Jul 11, 2017 11:47 am

Smart of them, something that needs to be done here. Its understandable when I see someone downtown that looks like they're starving to death, but when I see them dropped off in a white van at the same time every day and picked up at the same time every day I know what's going on. Its people like that who are taking advantage of other people's hardships to gain for themselves by essentially stealing money.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:38 pm

buildomaha wrote:Smart of them, something that needs to be done here. Its understandable when I see someone downtown that looks like they're starving to death, but when I see them dropped off in a white van at the same time every day and picked up at the same time every day I know what's going on. Its people like that who are taking advantage of other people's hardships to gain for themselves by essentially stealing money.


The amateur Shrink in me will tell you that 99% of these people are not professional panhandlers. The money they make is secondary to the real reason they are out on that median on that busy street. The real reason they are out there is because they are mentally ill and at their wits end and they want to share with the world just a bit of the misery they are in. I saw a blond woman about 21 Sunday morning at 11 AM working the center median on 90th & Dodge. She was not even standing.... she was laying up against the sign post :roll: I believe that there is a perfectly good explanation for this panhandling phenomenon which is of the likes of something we have never seen before until now......it is actually the residue of the huge influx of Mexican Meth being brought in by the illegal aliens.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby FrankJones » Thu Jul 13, 2017 10:40 pm

I've noticed a huge increase in the number of panhandlers within the last year. They're everywhere.

Go to Saddle Creek & Cuming. There are always at least 4 of them there. It's amazing.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Omababe » Fri Jul 14, 2017 5:31 am

There was a "desperate family", couple and two kids, at the corner by the Fantasy's when I stopped there to get the car washed yesterday. Thing is, there was a big sign "Now Hiring" at the Fantasy's. The jobs are out there for the people who want them.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby NovakOmaha » Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:50 am

Ok folks. Take a step back & think about a few things.

ONE, there but for the grace of god go you. Unless you know the backstory you have absolutely ZERO idea what their story is. Unless YOU have been homeless, mentally handicapped, disabled veteran, or whatever, DO NOT judge. And YES, I have volunteered helping homeless people, AND THEY ARE PEOPLE. Yes, there are scammers out there but IN MY EXPERIENCE they are the exception and NOT THE RULE. Where is your humanity? You don't want to give them money? How about simply being polite? Of course, I would never suggest that you climb down from your very comfortable pedestal and actually try to help people but at least take a shot, beginning with at least acknowledging their existence? Do you REALLY think the majority of them WANT to do it?

Now, let's remember that this is America. Unless the city passes some draconian law they actually do have a right to be there AND ask for money. Just the same as you do when you are standing on a corner waiting to cross the street for your $5 Starbucks dirtwater.

Here in Detroit there are panhandlers all over the place. At the corner of 8 Mile road and Woodward (similar to 72nd and Dodge), I see the same group panhandling. They sleep under an overpass. They have pretty much everything they own in a couple of shopping carts. They are out there in the sun, rain, snow, freezing, all of it. Sound fun? 8 Mile is the dividing line between the city of Detroit and the suburbs. Yeah, of course it's safe. Well, not really. After a few months of looking at them at the corner I decided to find out what their story was. Yes, they are on drugs. No, they aren't dealing. No, they don't have a place to live. Yes, they tried to get work but not many people want to hire homeless people. No, they don't make enough to rent a place. Some days they make enough to get a hotel room nearby but they've been robbed twice so they only try to rent a room once in a while to clean up. This is just an example and not representative of every homeless person in the Detroit metro. I came back one time with a list of agencies and offered to drive them to DHS. They didn't want to leave their place on the street but said they would try at some point.

I'm sorry for preaching and lecturing but when did society become so heartless? Human service agencies are overwhelmed yet they are out there trying 24/7 and they could sure use your help. Could you not even volunteer one day a month for an hour or two? You don't want your tax dollars going to help the homeless? Fair enough. But they aren't going away unless they have places that try to help them. And while you don't want to think about it everyone is one wrong turn away from joining their ranks. Yes, everyone.

Now back to discussing more important topics, like how nice the Capitol District will be when it's finished. Of course, I hope there will be plenty of security there to make sure only the "right" people are allowed in.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Coyote » Sun Oct 15, 2017 11:47 am

Coyote wrote:Rules for panhandling get overhaul

Roseann Moring - World-Herald staff write wrote:The Omaha City Council approved an overhaul to the city’s panhandling ordinance Tuesday, and council members said they’re working on further changes that would ban panhandling in street medians.


Panhandling in street medians is before this week's City Council. Ord 41283 covers basically any street with a speed limit of 30mph or above.
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Linkin5 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 3:14 pm

Coyote wrote:
Coyote wrote:Rules for panhandling get overhaul

Roseann Moring - World-Herald staff write wrote:The Omaha City Council approved an overhaul to the city’s panhandling ordinance Tuesday, and council members said they’re working on further changes that would ban panhandling in street medians.


Panhandling in street medians is before this week's City Council. Ord 41283 covers basically any street with a speed limit of 30mph or above.


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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Thu Nov 23, 2017 7:26 pm

I saw moochers begging on the medians this afternoon (Thanksgiving) all over town. That Meth is some powerful stuff that it can make those deadbeats go out and hustle on a holiday. I did not see anybody stupid enough to be giving them money thankfully.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby jessep28 » Fri Nov 24, 2017 10:38 am

Panhandlers don't sit at intersections if people don't give them money.
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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby Louie » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:07 am

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:I saw moochers begging on the medians this afternoon (Thanksgiving) all over town. That Meth is some powerful stuff that it can make those deadbeats go out and hustle on a holiday. I did not see anybody stupid enough to be giving them money thankfully.

So you're telling me that people don't magically get a house on a holiday and are actually homeless all the time?

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Fri Nov 24, 2017 11:41 am

Louie wrote:
GrandpaaSmucker wrote:I saw moochers begging on the medians this afternoon (Thanksgiving) all over town. That Meth is some powerful stuff that it can make those deadbeats go out and hustle on a holiday. I did not see anybody stupid enough to be giving them money thankfully.

So you're telling me that people don't magically get a house on a holiday and are actually homeless all the time?


You are ignorant of the facts. Every representative from any homeless shelter will tell you that most of these street beggars are not homeless and that they will use the money you give them for drugs and booze. The police and government officials will tell you that as well. I will tell you that there are people doing that that I know are not homeless. Wake up!

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby FirebirdEngineer » Fri Nov 24, 2017 12:29 pm

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:
Louie wrote:
GrandpaaSmucker wrote:I saw moochers begging on the medians this afternoon (Thanksgiving) all over town. That Meth is some powerful stuff that it can make those deadbeats go out and hustle on a holiday. I did not see anybody stupid enough to be giving them money thankfully.

So you're telling me that people don't magically get a house on a holiday and are actually homeless all the time?


You are ignorant of the facts. Every representative from any homeless shelter will tell you that most of these street beggars are not homeless and that they will use the money you give them for drugs and booze. The police and government officials will tell you that as well. I will tell you that there are people doing that that I know are not homeless. Wake up!


You're the one making the claim, so the burden of evidence is on you. Give us interviews from these representatives, police officers, or government officials. Saying "you look it up yourself" will not be sufficient - you present the evidence to back up your claim.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Sat Nov 25, 2017 2:23 pm

FirebirdEngineer wrote:
GrandpaaSmucker wrote:
You're the one making the claim, so the burden of evidence is on you. Give us interviews from these representatives, police officers, or government officials. Saying "you look it up yourself" will not be sufficient - you present the evidence to back up your claim.


I am just the forum idiot :yes: But would you take the word of a representative from the Omaha Open Door Mission. The Open Door Mission gives shelter to over 400 homeless people every night so they may know a little bit more about the homeless them me....or you.

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Re: Begging on Street Corners

Postby bigredmed1 » Sat Nov 25, 2017 11:26 pm

Saw several out today despite the law. Not sure what is going on.


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