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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby jessep28 » Mon Sep 25, 2017 11:06 pm

It generally bothers me that Berkshire owns the two largest newspapers in Nebraska. If any legitimate story critical of the Buffetts, Berkshire or related entity materializes, it won't see the light of day, unless one of the TV outlets or other regional/national newspaper people actually pay attention to picks it up.
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby NovakOmaha » Tue Sep 26, 2017 10:05 am

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:
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In other words, this isn't an example of entitlement so much as economic modeling.


Look at today's print issue of the Monday paper and count the big advertising ads. There are only about 15 of them in the whole paper. They might of once made a bunch of money off the ads but it sure don't look that way now. The money they get from subscriptions has to be a substantial portion of what little income they take in. If they are letting the moochers get the paper for free off the internet they are contributing to the destruction of what little source of revenue they have left.


Ok, let's start with the easiest. Monday is and always has been one of the least read papers. Thus advertisers don't put money into it. Thursday, Saturday and especially Sunday are the most read editions. Pretty much any first year media student knows this.
Next, subscriptions account for a tiny part of newspaper revenue. Advertising provides the lion's share. Thus, the reason for papers having specials that are very cheap.
Finally, As with facebook, twitter, etc., new media is free for the user in exchange for ad revenue. The "moochers" are part of the numbers shown to advertisers to justify ad rates.

It's simple economics these days. What Grandpa posits is logical to those who don't understand 21st century revenue and profit matrix's. Do you pay for google searches? Facebook? Twitter? Other web sites? No. You as a user are part of a huge number of users that trade free access in exchange for having ads on the web sites and those companies are wildly successful. The owh is very short sighted by limiting page views. Advertisers look at page views in determining if the ad rates per click are worth it. There is way more money in ads vs. subscriptions. Fact, not opinion. My company buys ads. We place value in clicks.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby windsor » Wed Oct 04, 2017 1:27 pm

I have heard from a very good source within the World-Herald that the World-Herald is hurting right now. The World-Herald numbers are way off where they want them.

I see a lot of magazines that let you read their product online and it has the look of a magazine. I don't recall if its a pdf or some sort of internet plug in, but which ever it is, you see the full page exactly how its printed in the hard copy. I wonder if something similar would benefit the World-Herald. I notice the advertisements a lot more in the magazine look than I do on the traditional World-Herald online story.
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby nebugeater » Wed Oct 04, 2017 2:28 pm

windsor wrote:I have heard from a very good source within the World-Herald that the World-Herald is hurting right now. The World-Herald numbers are way off where they want them.

I see a lot of magazines that let you read their product online and it has the look of a magazine. I don't recall if its a pdf or some sort of internet plug in, but which ever it is, you see the full page exactly how its printed in the hard copy. I wonder if something similar would benefit the World-Herald. I notice the advertisements a lot more in the magazine look than I do on the traditional World-Herald online story.



The OWH already has this. You get access to it as a seven day subscriber. You can subscribe seperatly also. The problem is that it cost more to subscribe to the e Version than the seven day print version. I think if you go to their web site subscription area you can see an sample of how it works.

I read it using the e paper over half the time. THe M- F get mostly read on glass and the print go straight to recycle. THe S and S I still read the print for the most part.
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby daveoma » Sun Oct 08, 2017 4:29 pm

I just saw the digital only offer online. I don't like there's an account setup fee of $6. Plus I think $10 per month is decent, but a little steep. I think $5 per month would be better. That's the going rate for an online music station that I listen to. Plus they don't mention anything about whether or not you see ads when you're a subscriber. They should have a free web edition in which you're bombarded by ads, then $5 per month for no ads.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby daveoma » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:35 pm

Another complaint about the OWH. Today they listed a story saying Rep Bacon will hold a town hall on Monday night but didn't give a date. Is it October 16? Or did they publish the article today when the event was held yesterday? I didn't see an announcement regarding the turn hall on the Congressman's website earlier today.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby GrandpaaSmucker » Tue Oct 10, 2017 5:52 pm

daveoma wrote:Another complaint about the OWH. Today they listed a story saying Rep Bacon will hold a town hall on Monday night but didn't give a date. Is it October 16? Or did they publish the article today when the event was held yesterday? I didn't see an announcement regarding the turn hall on the Congressman's website earlier today.


I saw that too. Darn Fake News anyway!

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby damonhynes » Wed Oct 11, 2017 9:03 am

GrandpaaSmucker wrote:
daveoma wrote:Another complaint about the OWH. Today they listed a story saying Rep Bacon will hold a town hall on Monday night but didn't give a date. Is it October 16? Or did they publish the article today when the event was held yesterday? I didn't see an announcement regarding the turn hall on the Congressman's website earlier today.


I saw that too. Darn Fake News anyway!


Not necessarily fake news, just lazy news. Is it any wonder why they're in bed with Channel Third?
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby Coyote » Thu Oct 12, 2017 12:34 pm

Just got an email saying Sunday delivery plus full digital access for $1.50 per week.
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby nebugeater » Thu Oct 12, 2017 1:06 pm

Coyote wrote:Just got an email saying Sunday delivery plus full digital access for $1.50 per week.


New subscriber package I think. Does it say how tong this price lasts?
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Sounds like a pretty good deal.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby daveoma » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:49 am

I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby nebugeater » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:37 am

Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html
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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby bigredmed1 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:29 pm

nebugeater wrote:Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html


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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby daveoma » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:14 pm

bigredmed1 wrote:
nebugeater wrote:Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html


Yep


Speaking out bias in a media outlet owned by a billionaire that dominates the market is not having an agenda--it's speaking truth to power.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby bigredmed1 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 12:25 am

daveoma wrote:
bigredmed1 wrote:
nebugeater wrote:Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html


Yep


Speaking out bias in a media outlet owned by a billionaire that dominates the market is not having an agenda--it's speaking truth to power.


The Sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux was not violated as the KXL pipeline does not cross their reservation. Protestors of the KXL trashed their land. The garbage left behind had to be hauled away in semis and required front loaders to scrape it up.

Complaining that a leftist billionaire didn't cover that would be a better example of "speaking truth to power" as the point of doing that is to challenge the settled narrative. The left hated the KXL. Buffett profited immensely from the obstructionist protests of the left. Note that his newspaper gave favorable coverage to the protestors and didn't really cover the ecologic mess they caused. Want to call people out and "speak truth to power", first find the power (as in who is making bank off this?).

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby daveoma » Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:50 pm

bigredmed1 wrote:
daveoma wrote:
bigredmed1 wrote:
nebugeater wrote:Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html


Yep


Speaking out bias in a media outlet owned by a billionaire that dominates the market is not having an agenda--it's speaking truth to power.


The Sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux was not violated as the KXL pipeline does not cross their reservation. Protestors of the KXL trashed their land. The garbage left behind had to be hauled away in semis and required front loaders to scrape it up.

Complaining that a leftist billionaire didn't cover that would be a better example of "speaking truth to power" as the point of doing that is to challenge the settled narrative. The left hated the KXL. Buffett profited immensely from the obstructionist protests of the left. Note that his newspaper gave favorable coverage to the protestors and didn't really cover the ecologic mess they caused. Want to call people out and "speak truth to power", first find the power (as in who is making bank off this?).


1. The pipeline was laid on land that is claimed by the standing Rock Sioux and is in dispute. This property was immediately upstream, not dozens of miles away but immediately adjacent to the reservation. Any oil spills that occur in the Missouri River will directly affect the Standing Rock Sioux first and worst

2. An oil spill is much more damaging to the environment than litter.

3. The Standing Rock cleaned up before the militarized police forced them out:. https://www.npr.org/2017/02/22/51648794 ... line-looms

4. Buffet might speak like a liberal, but he acts and invests like an old billionaire. And I do not believe the World Herald gave altogether favorable coverage to the protestors. If that was the case, they would've called them who they really are: water protectors.

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Re: The Omaha World Herald

Postby buildomaha » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:10 pm

daveoma wrote:
bigredmed1 wrote:
daveoma wrote:
bigredmed1 wrote:
nebugeater wrote:Don't know if the OWH has an agenda but it sure looks like you might.

daveoma wrote:I'd like to know why the World Herald felt it necessary to print an AP story, supposedly heartwarming, regarding the cleanup workers at the site of the keystone xl oil pipeline spill who took a break from cleaning up 1/4th of a toxic oil spill to have Thanksgiving dinner. What is their motivation for doing so? And why is their no context given to the fact that these workers deserve better than to work in a job that is inherently hazardous to their health? And who thought it was wise to print a story that doesn't mention the pipeline's contribution to artificially induced climate change? Did anybody stop and think how badly it looks to celebrate fact that these people work for a company who cruelly violated the sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux, on Thanksgiving--a day generally viewed as a day of mourning by most native Americans. While we're at it, why didn't the person who chose to print this article see the need to ask an obvious question that affects so many rural oil workers in the Great Plains: why are these workers working in dirty oil, when they could be working in wind and solar which are cheaper and cleaner?

I question the journalistic integrity of the World Herald, and their motives given such a decision made by an imbecile or someone who doesn't adequately understand the ENTIRE community which they so self-congratulatorily serve.


http://www.omaha.com/news/nation/worker-crew-cleaning-up-keystone-oil-spill-receives-short-break/article_2852c98c-d13d-11e7-a391-fb960abc7f6e.html


Yep


Speaking out bias in a media outlet owned by a billionaire that dominates the market is not having an agenda--it's speaking truth to power.


The Sovereignty of the Standing Rock Sioux was not violated as the KXL pipeline does not cross their reservation. Protestors of the KXL trashed their land. The garbage left behind had to be hauled away in semis and required front loaders to scrape it up.

Complaining that a leftist billionaire didn't cover that would be a better example of "speaking truth to power" as the point of doing that is to challenge the settled narrative. The left hated the KXL. Buffett profited immensely from the obstructionist protests of the left. Note that his newspaper gave favorable coverage to the protestors and didn't really cover the ecologic mess they caused. Want to call people out and "speak truth to power", first find the power (as in who is making bank off this?).


1. The pipeline was laid on land that is claimed by the standing Rock Sioux and is in dispute. This property was immediately upstream, not dozens of miles away but immediately adjacent to the reservation. Any oil spills that occur in the Missouri River will directly affect the Standing Rock Sioux first and worst

2. An oil spill is much more damaging to the environment than litter.

3. The Standing Rock cleaned up before the militarized police forced them out:. https://www.npr.org/2017/02/22/51648794 ... line-looms

4. Buffet might speak like a liberal, but he acts and invests like an old billionaire. And I do not believe the World Herald gave altogether favorable coverage to the protestors. If that was the case, they would've called them who they really are: water protectors.

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