"If it bleeds, it leads!" (ledes)Coyote wrote: just why the heck is all this considered 'news'?
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Coyote wrote: just why the |expletive| is all this considered 'news'? This is why I |expletive| never read our local fish wrap but google the news I want to read
I guess to me, someone getting stabbed and others getting shot is indeed news...As sad at it is that this happens, it still needs to be reported on.
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Ralston house searched again...
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Someone (who probably doesn't like fireworks) told on him.Coyote wrote:Ralston house searched again...
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It wasn't like the guy was safety storing the fireworks components until the no fun police showed up. In my personal opinion, the people who keep and manufacture professional grade fireworks in their houses are idiots. This guy from a couple years ago is a good example:BIG-T wrote:Someone (who probably doesn't like fireworks) told on him.Coyote wrote:Ralston house searched again...
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Yep... One quote I saw said this guy had enough explosives to level an aparent buding.jessep28 wrote:the people who keep and manufacture professional grade fireworks in their houses are idiots.
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By the way, fireworks are a very low priority. Some of those calls sit for hours before they are dispatched. Just happened now on the scanner. Right at two hours
Also, just had a shooting at the Rose N Crown bar on St Mary's
Also, just had a shooting at the Rose N Crown bar on St Mary's
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The Ralston dude is different from the 144th and Giles dude who had equivalent to 100+ sticks of dynamite in his apartment! that could have leveled that complex...
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An Omaha Police officer was stabbed this afternoon.
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Something going down at the Double Tree.
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Make that something crazy. Downtown is absolutely packed with cops.
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Meanstreets Omaha is tweeting about it.iamjacobm wrote:Make that something crazy. Downtown is absolutely packed with cops.
Help and officer call went out. Boxing related...
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Apparently they had everyone from Boystown PD to the OPD horse partrol at the double tree...Brad wrote:Meanstreets Omaha is tweeting about it.iamjacobm wrote:Make that something crazy. Downtown is absolutely packed with cops.
Help and officer call went out. Boxing related...
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Fights Break Out Following TItle Win
WOWT wrote:Around 12:45 Sunday morning a party quickly turned violent near 16th and Dodge Street. People were celebrating after Terence Crawford's title fight win, when several fights broke out at an after party going on at the Double Tree Hotel downtown.
Off-duty officers tried to contain the situation, but because of the large amount of people a call to help an officer went out over scanners. Police officers from across the metro rushed downtown to help stop the fighting. It took about an hour for everything to be under control.
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Sounds like the morons that that go out to watch the UFC fights and then try to start fights the rest of the night.
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"Call to help an officer went out over scanners" I wish I could have seen all the cruisers rolling in
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Just saw the footage on KETV, there were a ton of cop cars there.Coyote wrote:"Call to help an officer went out over scanners" I wish I could have seen all the cruisers rolling in
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I'm sure the Boys Town officers were excited to expedite down to likely their first "real call" ever.
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The Boystown cops cover the neighborhood around Boystown under some cooperative agreement with the OPD. They are routinely seen at the HyVee shopping area on 132nd and Dodge and in the office complex north of BT. They don't seem to get all the way to my part of the neighborhood, but they patrol the western part commonly.jessep28 wrote:I'm sure the Boys Town officers were excited to expedite down to likely their first "real call" ever.
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I guess MeanStreetsOma has moved their police audio to Soundcloud.
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Boystown PD is usually looking for runaways at Linden Market/HyVee. They find alot of them there. You'd think they'd find a better place to run away to!
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so it wasn't a 'fight guy' starting a brawl, but just party crashers who didn't want to leave.OWH wrote:Officer Michael Pecha, a police spokesman, said officers were called to the hotel at 16th and Dodge Streets after a large crowd pushed its way into an afterparty.
Officers said many people initially refused to leave the area, and several fights broke out. At least seven people were arrested for disorderly conduct, Pecha said.
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Is anyone listening to this pursuit right now keeping count of how many times command keeps telling the cars to back off?
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Not insinuating that the protests are criminal, just wasn't sure where else to put this.
There is a "Die-In" organized for today around the Old Market/Police HQ. I would avoid the area if you can as traffic will probably be a mess.
There is a "Die-In" organized for today around the Old Market/Police HQ. I would avoid the area if you can as traffic will probably be a mess.
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I'm betting there won't be much of a traffic problem at all!iamjacobm wrote:Not insinuating that the protests are criminal, just wasn't sure where else to put this.
There is a "Die-In" organized for today around the Old Market/Police HQ. I would avoid the area if you can as traffic will probably be a mess.
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Well last night was crazy. 2 dead 8 others shot.
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According to latest reports, 10 shot, 2 dead.
All this while residents of North Omaha clamor for less police presence, but more public art.
They need to get their $hit together before this nonsense bleeds into another generation of youths.
And it's not as if North Omaha is victim to gang infested neighborhoods, it's literally their own children growing up and terrorizing their own neighborhoods.
All this while residents of North Omaha clamor for less police presence, but more public art.
They need to get their $hit together before this nonsense bleeds into another generation of youths.
And it's not as if North Omaha is victim to gang infested neighborhoods, it's literally their own children growing up and terrorizing their own neighborhoods.
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Watching the press conference:
1. 3 dead, 7 injured.
2. The second shooting which happened later occurred at a vacant house. It was in transition to a new tenant. Forty people, plus or minus ten, were at that party. Most if not all did not co-operate with police.
3. Eleven homicides since December 21st, 2014.
1. 3 dead, 7 injured.
2. The second shooting which happened later occurred at a vacant house. It was in transition to a new tenant. Forty people, plus or minus ten, were at that party. Most if not all did not co-operate with police.
3. Eleven homicides since December 21st, 2014.
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This is f u king insane! I just don't get it. Why is life so cheap in Omaha? Why do young people think guns are cool? Who the heck would even attend a party in North Omaha? It is incredibly sad and incredibly sickening and something needs to change. Start with families. The parent of at least one of the victims begged her not to attend the party. Kids need to listen to their parents. She was an adult (although not old enough to consume alcohol outside her home). She was also a mother of a child who will now grow up without a mother. The cycle just keeps perpetuating itself.
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There is nothing you or I or anyone outside of that community, can really do about it.
Since things began to get really violent in the early 80's, the excuses and finger pointing began, and was allowed to perpetuate through the years, from which endless philantrop, civic and community efforts have been made to educate the community, build hope and personal responsibility, and much of it has gone in one hole, and defecated out the other.
It's 2015. It is their children terrorizing their community, and so, It is now their burden to fix it.
If I were a resident of Omaha, I would be livid watching all that good money going after bad, and especially watching our officers constantly in harms way with a bunch of people who just don't really give a f***.
The absence of parenting from the masses, are what's really responsible for these murders.
Since things began to get really violent in the early 80's, the excuses and finger pointing began, and was allowed to perpetuate through the years, from which endless philantrop, civic and community efforts have been made to educate the community, build hope and personal responsibility, and much of it has gone in one hole, and defecated out the other.
It's 2015. It is their children terrorizing their community, and so, It is now their burden to fix it.
If I were a resident of Omaha, I would be livid watching all that good money going after bad, and especially watching our officers constantly in harms way with a bunch of people who just don't really give a f***.
The absence of parenting from the masses, are what's really responsible for these murders.
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A prayer walk for the 23-24 January shootings ended in a brawl.
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I don't wanna be the kinda person that says there's no hope for their plight, but good Lord, they're certainly not inspiring any hope in me. I truly do feel bad for the issues they face, but really, what more can the community, the police, or the city do for them?jessep28 wrote:A prayer walk for the 23-24 January shootings ended in a brawl.
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What are the chances a brawl and another shooting happens there?jessep28 wrote:A prayer walk for the 23-24 January shootings ended in a brawl.
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Discovered today that one of my neighbors was the parent of the 24 yr old woman that was killed. Reading the story online - KET V - she was adopted to get her out of a bad situation - and it looks like she was in the wrong place at the wrong time.
I think I heard the police chief mention that this gang culture is a strong draw for a lot of these people. I think I read once it gives some of them a sense of belonging.
I know some of these parents are trying. I currently have a former student going to trial for first degree murder. I had him in 7th and 8th grade and he thought he was pretty study back then. Didn't last in any sport for more than a couple of weeks before he got kicked off. His mom tried lots of interventions. He went to Prep but I heard he was asked to leave He has an older brother who grad from Prep and I heard was a walk on at NU football. A younger sister who was a great student at the school. Oh yeah the middle school was in West O.
But then I have also had former students from when I taught in North O have parents read them the riot act about their behavior and grades at conferences and not see much change in the child... And saw a couple of them in the news for the wrong reasons. But also some for good reasons.
I feel their is a lot of disassociation for some of these people,. There was mention that as the police were investigating there was a crowd and some in the crowd were upset and consoling each other but then there were the identified gang members just hanging around showing no emotion what so ever. Maybe making sure no one talked
My guess there is going to be a lot of retaliation from this shooting
I think I heard the police chief mention that this gang culture is a strong draw for a lot of these people. I think I read once it gives some of them a sense of belonging.
I know some of these parents are trying. I currently have a former student going to trial for first degree murder. I had him in 7th and 8th grade and he thought he was pretty study back then. Didn't last in any sport for more than a couple of weeks before he got kicked off. His mom tried lots of interventions. He went to Prep but I heard he was asked to leave He has an older brother who grad from Prep and I heard was a walk on at NU football. A younger sister who was a great student at the school. Oh yeah the middle school was in West O.
But then I have also had former students from when I taught in North O have parents read them the riot act about their behavior and grades at conferences and not see much change in the child... And saw a couple of them in the news for the wrong reasons. But also some for good reasons.
I feel their is a lot of disassociation for some of these people,. There was mention that as the police were investigating there was a crowd and some in the crowd were upset and consoling each other but then there were the identified gang members just hanging around showing no emotion what so ever. Maybe making sure no one talked
My guess there is going to be a lot of retaliation from this shooting
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Nothing. Change comes from within. That community accepts it because there's enough of that community that wants life to be this way. Calling it out gets you branded a racist.RNcyanide wrote:I don't wanna be the kinda person that says there's no hope for their plight, but good Lord, they're certainly not inspiring any hope in me. I truly do feel bad for the issues they face, but really, what more can the community, the police, or the city do for them?jessep28 wrote:A prayer walk for the 23-24 January shootings ended in a brawl.
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There seems to be a huge disconnect of some individuals on what the value of life really is. It's really sad. Kids grow up thinking they'll probably end up dead anyway, so why even try.
Every time there is new string of murders and shootings, a new movement such as Mad Dads or "Enough is Enough" starts up. Things get better for a few weeks and then it starts all over again, or escalates to a new level.
Every time there is new string of murders and shootings, a new movement such as Mad Dads or "Enough is Enough" starts up. Things get better for a few weeks and then it starts all over again, or escalates to a new level.
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It's actually a very complicated dynamic. Without trying to break it all down piece by piece, one factor that stands out the most (at least to me), is the multi-general, cultural mindset of victimization. Not necessarily victimization from each other (which is the real problem), but the perceived deep-rooted societal victimization which has enabled a mentality that, as a community, they don't bear the responsibility for their actions; it's someone else's fault.
This mentality is not only enabled by minorities in dangerous inner-city communities, but it is now a media-driven narrative, and has lasting deteriorating effects on these communities.
The only organized efforts I've seen from these communities to denounce violence and brutality in their neighborhoods, is when one of their own is killed by an officer - which, mind you, is exceedingly rare in comparison to black on black murders, not to mention, is almost always a results of some sort of dubious, less-than-lawful activity on part of the "victim".
A lack of accountability being fueled by a victim mentality, will perpetuate this intra-community terrorism indefinitely.
"Black lives matter". Ok, then prove it.
This mentality is not only enabled by minorities in dangerous inner-city communities, but it is now a media-driven narrative, and has lasting deteriorating effects on these communities.
The only organized efforts I've seen from these communities to denounce violence and brutality in their neighborhoods, is when one of their own is killed by an officer - which, mind you, is exceedingly rare in comparison to black on black murders, not to mention, is almost always a results of some sort of dubious, less-than-lawful activity on part of the "victim".
A lack of accountability being fueled by a victim mentality, will perpetuate this intra-community terrorism indefinitely.
"Black lives matter". Ok, then prove it.
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Creative solutions like changing our education system so you don't get out of primary school till you reach a set of mastery level skills. Yes, that means kids may get held back. But the fear of embarasment and shame is a motivating tool. The sense of genuine accomplishment is another. Simply promoting kids means sliding generations of future unemployables through school. They hit jr. high school and run into class after class where they are already unable to function and they slide down then.
Martin Luther King Jr did not become what he became without work. He didn't get his PhD from the bottom of an affirmative action crackerjack box. He could never have made it through college, much less grad school had he not had a solid foundation and a set of expectations.
Our welfare system is our next target for change. A system that prevents people from working is a system designed to fail as a safety net. Our welfare system gives out services on a need basis. First things you lose as a newly employed working mother is medicaid and daycare. What are the two big ticket items in any family budget? Healthcare and daycare. Once in the system, you are trapped in it.
Martin Luther King Jr did not become what he became without work. He didn't get his PhD from the bottom of an affirmative action crackerjack box. He could never have made it through college, much less grad school had he not had a solid foundation and a set of expectations.
Our welfare system is our next target for change. A system that prevents people from working is a system designed to fail as a safety net. Our welfare system gives out services on a need basis. First things you lose as a newly employed working mother is medicaid and daycare. What are the two big ticket items in any family budget? Healthcare and daycare. Once in the system, you are trapped in it.