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S33 wrote: A lack of accountability being fueled by a victim mentality, will perpetuate this intra-community terrorism indefinitely.
Reminds me of the famous Dale Carnegie Quote:

“Feeling sorry for yourself, and your present condition, is not only a waste of energy but the worst habit you could possibly have.”

...good words to live by, for everybody.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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GetUrban wrote:
S33 wrote: A lack of accountability being fueled by a victim mentality, will perpetuate this intra-community terrorism indefinitely.
Reminds me of the famous Dale Carnegie Quote:

“Feeling sorry for yourself, and your present condition, is not only a waste of energy but the worst habit you could possibly have.”

...good words to live by, for everybody.
I was working security for an event last summer and we had to clear a section for the safety of the crowd, and I mistakingly put my hand on the back of an African-American woman to move the crowd to a safe location, when I heard her tell her boyfriend , that was sexual harassment and she should sue the police.
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GetUrban wrote:
S33 wrote: A lack of accountability being fueled by a victim mentality, will perpetuate this intra-community terrorism indefinitely.
Reminds me of the famous Dale Carnegie Quote:

“Feeling sorry for yourself, and your present condition, is not only a waste of energy but the worst habit you could possibly have.”

...good words to live by, for everybody.
Great quote, and universally true.

The greatest lie this nation has told its people, is that their plight, whatever it may be, essentially handicaps them - economically and socially. And then, once that lie has been told, who is waiting with open arms of welfare assistance - housing, food, education, utilities, and etc? None other than the liars themselves.

I feel like these communities are living in a giant Truman Show-like bubble of poverty, absent parenting, welfare and violent crime, and there's two paths each individual can take, but only one leads you outside of the dome; Entitlement or empowerment.

The entitlement path comes directly from victimization, and the worse their lives are, the more they are entitled to(see Coyote's story above). A simple innocuous contact between a figure of authority and a "victim", entitles him or her to a monetary reward. This sort of litigious freedom has extorted millions of dollars from Douglas County in previous years, and billions from cities around the country.

Then there's a path of empowerment, which is seldom taken and is a course for those who do the right things and have a general sense of direction (get educated, take pride in themselves and their work, and most of all, respect the law). Adversity actually empowers these people, and makes them want for better.

Obviously, it's far easier to follow the path of entitlement, because that requires nothing of you, only to sedentarily exist as a victim in perpetuity.

To be honest, if I grew up in that community, I'm not sure which path I would have taken. But as an outsider, I can comfortably say, that the blame (from here on forward), is on them. There's no amount of money, white collar job availability, or police, that can help people who don't help themselves.
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bigredmed wrote:Creative solutions like changing our education system so you don't get out of primary school till you reach a set of mastery level skills.  Yes, that means kids may get held back.  But the fear of embarasment and shame is a motivating tool.  The sense of genuine accomplishment is another.  Simply promoting kids means sliding generations of future unemployables through school.  They hit jr. high school and run into class after class where they are already unable to function and they slide down then.
There are lot of factors that effect how a child does in school, but Fear and embarrassment as a motivational tool... I don't think so. There have been many times in my career where a child was promoted even though they didn't meet the standards of the time. It wasn't the school but the parents who wouldn't hold them back. Also research shows that it might have a short term effect if they repeat in the primary grades (k-3) but it all evens in the long run.
bigredmed wrote:Our welfare system is our next target for change.  A system that prevents people from working is a system designed to fail as a safety net.  Our welfare system gives out services on a need basis.  First things you lose as a newly employed working mother is medicaid and daycare.  What are the two big ticket items in any family budget?  Healthcare and daycare.  Once in the system, you are trapped in it.
I agree with you here.
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Fear and embarrassment are hyperbole to emphasize the point that failing to master a task means staying put till you do.
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Likely swatting prank occurred tonight in Elkhorn. Someone called in a multiple shooting which turned out to be false. A lot of these are phoned in by disgruntled gamers.
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jessep28 wrote:Likely swatting prank occurred tonight in Elkhorn. Someone called in a multiple shooting which turned out to be false. A lot of these are phoned in by disgruntled gamers.
I sincerely hope that they called it in using a cell with their name on it. Would love to see the expression on their face when a half dozen FBI agents bust them for telecom fraud and the OPD throws in a few charges. This |expletive| can't continue.
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Most swatters spoof their caller ID or utilize a TTY service. Depending on how smart they are, finding the culprit can be difficult.
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jessep28 wrote:Most swatters spoof their caller ID or utilize a TTY service. Depending on how smart they are, finding the culprit can be difficult.
That's depressing. Hope they find these jerks. I fear that with a bunch of cops with M4's and AR-15's will accidentally shoot some innocent person because of some a-hole that's upset about a video game.
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jessep28 wrote:Likely swatting prank occurred tonight in Elkhorn. Someone called in a multiple shooting which turned out to be false. A lot of these are phoned in by disgruntled gamers.

Looks like the family believes it is someone the have a restraining order against

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Elkh ... tablet&c=y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Uffda wrote:
jessep28 wrote:Likely swatting prank occurred tonight in Elkhorn. Someone called in a multiple shooting which turned out to be false. A lot of these are phoned in by disgruntled gamers.

Looks like the family believes it is someone the have a restraining order against

http://www.wowt.com/home/headlines/Elkh ... tablet&c=y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Please let this be true and let the cops find the data on his cell with his DNA on it.
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One of my Facebook friends just said someone fired 12 shots off downtown and everyone either split or hit the deck. Anyone heard anything more about this?
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RNcyanide wrote:One of my Facebook friends just said someone fired 12 shots off downtown and everyone either split or hit the deck. Anyone heard anything more about this?
There were shootings DT at Crossroads and on 29th and Cuming. I think 5 people were in the hospital for injuries.
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iamjacobm wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:One of my Facebook friends just said someone fired 12 shots off downtown and everyone either split or hit the deck. Anyone heard anything more about this?
There were shootings DT at Crossroads and on 29th and Cuming. I think 5 people were in the hospital for injuries.
Huh. I tried looking on Omaha.com, but they didn't have anything about it from what I saw.

Thanks for the clarification.
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Three more shooting sites today.
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iamjacobm wrote:Three more shooting sites today.
Cool! Was any of the shooters a police man? I need some free shoes.
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UNO students losing their minds during finals week. One guy pulled a knife in the library and was subdued by students and another person got caught streaking on south campus.
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iamjacobm wrote:UNO students losing their minds during finals week. One guy pulled a knife in the library and was subdued by students and another person got caught streaking on south campus.

Reports are that he had three knifes on him
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This story with the baby in the dumpster keeps getting more strange...
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Wow this is crazy. Mother found dead in a dumpster and another child still missing.
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Who needs "We don't coast"? Let's go with:

"Omaha. Don't worry, we don't murder tourists...generally"
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MadMartin8 wrote:Who needs "We don't coast"? Let's go with:

"Omaha. Don't worry, we don't murder tourists...generally"


Really? :roll:
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nebugeater wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:Who needs "We don't coast"? Let's go with:

"Omaha. Don't worry, we don't murder tourists...generally"


Really? :roll:

Yes, really. These murders and violent crime in Omaha gets tiresome, to me at least. But hey, it's better than Los Angeles, etc?
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Found the jeep. The five year old is still missing.
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RNcyanide wrote:Found the jeep. The five year old is still missing.
25 year old brother in custody, said he through the 5 year old in the Elkhorn River...
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iamjacobm wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:Found the jeep. The five year old is still missing.
25 year old brother in custody, said he through the 5 year old in the Elkhorn River...
That is one of the most disturbing things I can think of! :(
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The search for the five year old has been called off today. The girl friend of the eldest son has been arrested for being an accessory to murder as well.

In other news, a suspicious bucket was called in and investigated by the bomb squad with about exactly the results you'd expect from a suspicious bucket. This was at 90th and Dodge.
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RNcyanide wrote:The search for the five year old has been called off today.
I just read it should resume tomorrow though. Just postponed due to weather.

Edit: actually they will continue later today.

Weather forecast postpones Elkhorn River search for missing 5-year-old
Kevin Cole / World-Herald staff writer wrote:The threat of severe weather ended the search Sunday for a 5-year-old boy believed to have been thrown into the Elkhorn River, but an official said searchers will return today.
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The body of the five year old has been found.
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This whole chain of events has to be the sickest and most depraved I can ever remember since moving to Omaha! :( Saddening and depressing even to think of it! :(
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When this chain of events started and they found the 11 month old in the dumpster did anyone ever think that he would end up being the lucky one.
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nebugeater wrote:When this chain of events started and they found the 11 month old in the dumpster did anyone ever think that he would end up being the lucky one.
Well put....and I doubt it.
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Omababe wrote:This whole chain of events has to be the sickest and most depraved I can ever remember since moving to Omaha! :( Saddening and depressing even to think of it! :(
This and the tale of the Niko Jenkins Family are pretty high up there on the WOW scale.
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With the race riot of 1919 and the Franklin Credit Union child rape/murder stuff..
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MadMartin8 wrote:
Omababe wrote:This whole chain of events has to be the sickest and most depraved I can ever remember since moving to Omaha! :( Saddening and depressing even to think of it! :(
This and the tale of the Niko Jenkins Family are pretty high up there on the WOW scale.
Yep and Yep.

As if this entire event weren't sad enough, imagine being the father, jailed on previous deportation charges, having to learn of all this and watch it unfold behind bars.

Illegal immigration or not, at that point, I would think a judge would quickly see that the father is not a violent criminal, and release him on humanitarian grounds, alone. Not sure if the justice system works like that, but it would have been the right thing to do from early on.
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S33 wrote:
MadMartin8 wrote:
Omababe wrote:This whole chain of events has to be the sickest and most depraved I can ever remember since moving to Omaha! :( Saddening and depressing even to think of it! :(
This and the tale of the Niko Jenkins Family are pretty high up there on the WOW scale.
Yep and Yep.

As if this entire event weren't sad enough, imagine being the father, jailed on previous deportation charges, having to learn of all this and watch it unfold behind bars.

Illegal immigration or not, at that point, I would think a judge would quickly see that the father is not a violent criminal, and release him on humanitarian grounds, alone. Not sure if the justice system works like that, but it would have been the right thing to do from early on.
I remember reading they said there is a decent chance they let him stay here and care for the younger child.
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OPD officer down, Ames and 75
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I believe I heard, female officer died at Creighton...
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OPD has taken over CU hospital
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Coyote wrote:I believe I heard, female officer died at Creighton...

Well, they're saying extremely critical condition right now.
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