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I think that one is going to be about 170-180'.
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I was thinking the same thing....the apt tower is supposed to be 12 stories tall, so it should also help to fill in that gap.2Adam29 wrote:those mock renderings are nice, but they seem to ignore the tower in the shamrock project thats only a little shorter than the hotel on the opposite end of that block...
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Maybe we should just start a render thread, lol.
If I had all the specs handy and good renderings I could Earth them all together
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As far as renders there are plenty on the shamrock thread throughout but as far as official heights etc your guess is as good as ours. There are also descent renders on the civic auditorium tetrad thread but again no official numbers other than floor counts.
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I was more thinking along the lines of, in rumors we could start a thread for what guesses we have and fill in the skyline of 2020-2025 or whatever we might be getting to get basic representations.
Instead of getting too far off on rendering Lanaho, HDR, Tetrad, Capital, Wallstreet.... here.
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Am I the only one who thinks that a 16 level building located in a downtown area hardly constitutes a "tower"?
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Are you new here?nativeomahan wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that a 16 level building located in a downtown area hardly constitutes a "tower"?
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RNcyanide wrote:Are you new here?nativeomahan wrote:Am I the only one who thinks that a 16 level building located in a downtown area hardly constitutes a "tower"?
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Do we know when HDR will be releasing their plans yet?
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It was mentioned last summer that it would be sometime next month.OutoftheCanyon wrote:Do we know when HDR will be releasing their plans yet?
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I think something similar was posted earlier, but idk if it was the same image. This is straight from the document the city has.
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Wow, the tower is going to take up a whole 20-25% of the lot.
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Preliminary thought: Disappointing.
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Let's wait to see an actual rendering. The displays of their current work on the first page of this thread showed some fairly skinny towers that still looked good.
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If it took up the whole lot, it would only need to be about 5 stories. With that size footprint, 264' lot width x (264/3) = 23,232 sf/flr x 16 floors = 371,712 gsf which is about the amount of space they said they need.skinzfan23 wrote:Wow, the tower is going to take up a whole 20-25% of the lot.
They probably want those historic buildings to the south gone so they can also control their view. How convenient to be the architect of the Holland expansion too.
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Absolutely the smaller the footprint the higher the building. I'm wondering how well they'll dress up the parking facility.
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The narrow tower will allow more natural daylight to penetrate deeper into the interior too, which will earn them some LEED points and make it a more pleasant place to work. The lighting will most likely be self-adjusting when sufficient daylight is available, saving electricity.
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I don't mind the thin tower at all whatsoever, the only thing I question is why they need an entire city block then?
Why does everyone in Omaha's CBD need entire city blocks?
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Thats what I have constantly asked. I don't see that all the time with every other development in other cities. I just feel like every major building downtown anymore takes the entire block. Gavilon is the perfect example. Did they really need a full block?Midwestern wrote:I don't mind the thin tower at all whatsoever, the only thing I question is why they need an entire city block then?
Why does everyone in Omaha's CBD need entire city blocks?
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In that instance, they did, but they could have done so much more with the space. They left their old digs because everyone on the trading floor was on top of each other.skinzfan23 wrote:Thats what I have constantly asked. I don't see that all the time with every other development in other cities. I just feel like every major building downtown anymore takes the entire block. Gavilon is the perfect example. Did they really need a full block?Midwestern wrote:I don't mind the thin tower at all whatsoever, the only thing I question is why they need an entire city block then?
Why does everyone in Omaha's CBD need entire city blocks?
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Well I guess we can at least be thankful that this full city-block project is way, way better than the Gavilon one. Taller office tower, more square footage, parking on-site, and ground-level retail (and most likely a very good design) vs. 4 stories of just office space. No contest.
But seriously though, the whole city-block thing needs to end. It cannot be seen as good urban-planning for a CBD?
From looking at other cities' central business districts, it looks like they have way less of this phenomenon.
But seriously though, the whole city-block thing needs to end. It cannot be seen as good urban-planning for a CBD?
From looking at other cities' central business districts, it looks like they have way less of this phenomenon.
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Good points. Hopefully the retail space on the Capitol side will also wrap around the corners on 11th & 12th and have a variety of different tenants. It would be great if the parking could be kept more internal to the block with only narrow entry points fronting the streets. Downtown Omaha blocks have lost so much of the variety of different tenants and businesses fronting the streets that it once had.
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You know what else lets in more daylight big |expletive| windows like 18 foot tall windows.GetUrban wrote:The narrow tower will allow more natural daylight to penetrate deeper into the interior too, which will earn them some LEED points and make it a more pleasant place to work. The lighting will most likely be self-adjusting when sufficient daylight is available, saving electricity.
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Yeah, people seem to forget how big the windows are on some of the historic buildings too. At least 12-16 ft high on some of the storefronts in the old market at street level. The P.E. Eiler building on the south side of Howard has huge windows all the way up. Floor to ceiling glass curtain walls are pretty common nowadays too, as HDR has on their current buildings.
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Woah, all that has happened so hopefully the renderings will come out too in December!nativeomahan wrote:I was given to understand that the final design would be settled on by December.
I was also told that the next door neighbor, the Holland Center, has medium term plans to add a third theatre space in the next 4-5 years, plus a parking garage, to the east of their existing structure. Some existing structures would come down for the garage to be built. The theatre space would be designed for Broadway type shows that don't need the Orpheum's massive seating.
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You know what doesn't allow any sunlight in? Building a 7 story parking garage against the back of your building. Why aren't they putting the 16 story building on top of the 7 story parking garage?GetUrban wrote:The narrow tower will allow more natural daylight to penetrate deeper into the interior too, which will earn them some LEED points and make it a more pleasant place to work. The lighting will most likely be self-adjusting when sufficient daylight is available, saving electricity.
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They'll probably locate some of the functions not requiring daylight in the locations abutting the parking garage, such as mechanical/electrical/server rooms, large conference rooms and maybe an auditorium. Or they could provide an atrium or light well between the garage and office tower, similar to how alleys used to be. You just want more height, correct?Joe_Sovereign wrote:You know what doesn't allow any sunlight in? Building a 7 story parking garage against the back of your building. Why aren't they putting the 16 story building on top of the 7 story parking garage?GetUrban wrote:The narrow tower will allow more natural daylight to penetrate deeper into the interior too, which will earn them some LEED points and make it a more pleasant place to work. The lighting will most likely be self-adjusting when sufficient daylight is available, saving electricity.
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The parking facility will be on the north side while the tower will be fronting the southern sky with its largest walls facing the sun.
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It used to be that north light was much better for drawing, but not as much of an issue now with everything being drawn on computers.MTO wrote:The parking facility will be on the north side while the tower will be fronting the southern sky with its largest walls facing the sun.
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That makes sense I grew up in a CAD world would have never thought of that.GetUrban wrote:It used to be that north light was much better for drawing, but not as much of an issue now with everything being drawn on computers.MTO wrote:The parking facility will be on the north side while the tower will be fronting the southern sky with its largest walls facing the sun.
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Height is part of it but I don't like Parking Garages that don't have multiple uses. The garage will have ground level retail, but will it have a green roof or a patio on top?GetUrban wrote:They'll probably locate some of the functions not requiring daylight in the locations abutting the parking garage, such as mechanical/electrical/server rooms, large conference rooms and maybe an auditorium. Or they could provide an atrium or light well between the garage and office tower, similar to how alleys used to be. You just want more height, correct?Joe_Sovereign wrote:You know what doesn't allow any sunlight in? Building a 7 story parking garage against the back of your building. Why aren't they putting the 16 story building on top of the 7 story parking garage?GetUrban wrote:The narrow tower will allow more natural daylight to penetrate deeper into the interior too, which will earn them some LEED points and make it a more pleasant place to work. The lighting will most likely be self-adjusting when sufficient daylight is available, saving electricity.
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I thought the idea was length AND girth? No?Midwestern wrote:I don't mind the thin tower at all whatsoever, the only thing I question is why they need an entire city block then?
Why does everyone in Omaha's CBD need entire city blocks?
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Always worthy considerations...S33 wrote:I thought the idea was length AND girth? No?Midwestern wrote:I don't mind the thin tower at all whatsoever, the only thing I question is why they need an entire city block then?
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Omaha City Council OKs amendment key to HDR downtown headquarters plan
Maybe I read the article a little too fast, but did it mention just what this key amendment was?
Maybe I read the article a little too fast, but did it mention just what this key amendment was?
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No you didn't miss it, that is a lazily written article.Coyote wrote:Omaha City Council OKs amendment key to HDR downtown headquarters plan
Maybe I read the article a little too fast, but did it mention just what this key amendment was?
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Hard to write about something as vague as what the City Council actually approved. I like how Carpenter said the HDR HQ will blend in well with its surroundings, especially the Holland Expansion. Sure it will, once the adjacent land is wiped clean.
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Blend in well. That's not what I was hoping to hear.
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So if we connect a few dots it'll look similar to The Holland. I can understand the modern look but this thing should stand out and stand out even in larger cities.
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So the HDR building will be a scaled up version of the Specht building?RNcyanide wrote:Blend in well. That's not what I was hoping to hear.
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Specht building? What makes you think that will still be there?bmt wrote:So the HDR building will be a scaled up version of the Specht building?RNcyanide wrote:Blend in well. That's not what I was hoping to hear.
He said "They are some big, ugly red brick buildings"
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...and then they were gone.