1970's Book: Proposed Eastern Nebraska Int Airport Plan

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1970's Book: Proposed Eastern Nebraska Int Airport Plan

Postby NovakOmaha » Tue Jan 19, 2010 9:00 pm

I kind of came across this by accident.  I don't know if it's even in print or where to get it, but it would be interesting to see.

1970's Book: Proposed Eastern Nebraska Int Airport Plan

http://openlibrary.org/b/OL5752099M/The_proposed_eastern_Nebraska_international_airport_plan

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Postby S33 » Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:14 pm

Can we view the pages? If so how, I can't figure it out.

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Postby UNOstudent » Wed Jan 20, 2010 12:17 am

UNO Library has a copy or 2 of this.

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Postby NovakOmaha » Wed Jan 20, 2010 6:22 am

I couldn't view any part of it.  It would be interesting to see tho.

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Postby Stargazer » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:07 am

I'm sure there will be an airport built between Lincoln and Omaha some day... though not in my lifetime.

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Postby StreetsOfOmaha » Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:48 am

Stargazer wrote:I'm sure there will be an airport built between Lincoln and Omaha some day... though not in my lifetime.


I disagree.

Omaha will continue to grow as the hub airport of its region, with closeness to the center of Omaha becoming more and more of an amenity. Ground transportation connecting Omaha and Lincoln will improve, and getting to Omaha's airport from Lincoln will become easier and more efficient.

There won't be a need for an airport between Omaha and Lincoln, or in practical terms, so far outside of Omaha and away from the urban center.
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Postby zedmib » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:23 am

I've looked at this study several times at UNO's Library. I was to be about 2/3 the size of Denver's (DIA). The runway setup was very odd and unique. It is worth the read though I doubt it will ever happen.
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Postby UNOstudent » Sat Jan 30, 2010 4:27 pm

A couple scans from the book

Map showing proposed airport and the proposed Lake Ashland
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Proposed airport layout (excuse the mess at the top, couldn't get that out)
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Postby almighty_tuna » Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:57 am

if done as laid out in that scan, in 1960, with rapid rail transit and the accompanied freeway structure, I contend the Omaha/Lincoln area would be double to triple its current population.

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Postby NovakOmaha » Mon Feb 01, 2010 3:48 pm

almighty_tuna wrote:if done as laid out in that scan, in 1960, with rapid rail transit and the accompanied freeway structure, I contend the Omaha/Lincoln area would be double to triple its current population.


I'm confused.  Would the airport, freeway and rapid rail cause some kind of rise in fertility?  Would people move to the area to look at the airport development?

Seriously, if my math is correct the airport would have had 256 gates, with room for more.  It seems very DFW-like.  It was an interesting proposal and it would be worth a look at the book to see his supporting data.

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Postby almighty_tuna » Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:55 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:
almighty_tuna wrote:if done as laid out in that scan, in 1960, with rapid rail transit and the accompanied freeway structure, I contend the Omaha/Lincoln area would be double to triple its current population.


I'm confused.  Would the airport, freeway and rapid rail cause some kind of rise in fertility?  Would people move to the area to look at the airport development.


Yes.  I try as much as possible to get busy right under the glideslope.   :roll:

No.  Its timely construction though would've predated much of the larger airport expansions in the region, MCI (KC) and Stapleton in Denver therefore putting it in a better place to vie for hub expansion and also laid alternative transportation groundwork that would've made this area very attractive economically.  But yeah, i guess if you want to be a smart |expletive|...a bunch of people screwing by the airport.

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Postby mrdwhsr » Tue Feb 02, 2010 1:04 pm

The proposed Metro Beltway, if built on the outer alignment through Washington and Saunders county, would possibly serve this propssed airport. But Rapid Rail? We can't get a starter streetcar in Omaha.

I noticed several railroad lines on the map, ex Rock Island, Missouri Pacific, and the C&NW through Irvington and Bennington, disappeared more than two decades ago. The "Lake Ashland" doesn't appear to match the more recent proposal. It looks like the Platte River would be dammed (damned?) at Mahoney State Park, not just Salt Creek. The DFW reference would seem appropriate though with that.

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Postby zedmib » Tue Feb 02, 2010 3:28 pm

Thanks for posting the scans. Like I said.. a unique runway layout. It would be interesting to see how many movements that design could ultimately handle.
It looks like the layout would minimize taxi times to and from the runways. I always though the north-south runways should have been 12,000 ft as well but the lake looks to be a limiting factor.
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Postby NovakOmaha » Tue Feb 02, 2010 4:41 pm

zedmib wrote:Thanks for posting the scans. Like I said.. a unique runway layout. It would be interesting to see how many movements that design could ultimately handle.
It looks like the layout would minimize taxi times to and from the runways. I always though the north-south runways should have been 12,000 ft as well but the lake looks to be a limiting factor.
:cry: Ah. the dream of what could have been.


I think the design looks like it could have handled a mountain of flights.  

The idea of a huge lake and a bigger airport (I seriously doubt the need for pretty much any airport to need 256 gates) between Omaha and Lincoln is certainly enticing.  The time to do it was in the early 70's.  The only thing about that is that about now there would be talk of replacing the terminal that is over 35 years old.

While we're talking about "what if"...there should have been a domed stadium with 100,000 seats near there as well.  

One thing...Wahoo would have grown to 50,000  or 100,000 residents or so by now.

My biggest problem with the proposal?  Eastern Nebraska International Airport is dull.  Wahoo Worldport sounds cool!
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Postby almighty_tuna » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:28 am

NovakOmaha wrote:"We connect in Wahoo and then it's non stop to London.  You can get Runzas right at the gate."


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Postby the1wags » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:12 am

Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.

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Postby NovakOmaha » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:04 pm

the1wags wrote:Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.


Come on.  They arent your idea of good?  Ok so get a burger & fries.  
Or you can wander over to the Wahoo Wahoo Food Court and pick from the 1000 restaurants there.  Maybe head to the shopping mall with its 4000 stores, including 5, count em 5, Nordstroms, Saks, Macys, and YES!, Brandeis!

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Postby Brad » Wed Feb 03, 2010 12:28 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:
the1wags wrote:Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.


Come on.  They arent your idea of good?


That's because he is from Iowa... Communist. :;):
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Postby NovakOmaha » Wed Feb 03, 2010 4:58 pm

Brad wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:
the1wags wrote:Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.


Come on.  They arent your idea of good?


That's because he is from Iowa... Communist. :;):


The closest thing Iowa has to a franchise is Maid Rita.  I found them to be really bland.  Try BGs for loose meat.  ARE there any chains or franchises based in Iowa?  I just can't think of any.

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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:54 pm

NovakOmaha wrote:
Brad wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:[quote="the1wags"]Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.


Come on.  They arent your idea of good?


That's because he is from Iowa... Communist. :;):


The closest thing Iowa has to a franchise is Maid Rita.  I found them to be really bland.  Try BGs for loose meat.  ARE there any chains or franchises based in Iowa?  I just can't think of any.[/quote]

And B-Bops..which is B-rate and over-hyped. The food is on par with most bowling alleys.

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Postby ShawJ » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:01 pm

TitosBuritoBarn wrote:
NovakOmaha wrote:
Brad wrote:[quote="NovakOmaha"][quote="the1wags"]Or they could have bought something worth a |expletive| to eat. Runzas are soggy, greasy pockets of |expletive|.


Come on.  They arent your idea of good?


That's because he is from Iowa... Communist. :;):


The closest thing Iowa has to a franchise is Maid Rita.  I found them to be really bland.  Try BGs for loose meat.  ARE there any chains or franchises based in Iowa?  I just can't think of any.[/quote]

The food is on par with most bowling alleys.[/quote]

Sooo.... delicious?

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Postby TitosBuritoBarn » Wed Feb 03, 2010 7:48 pm

What bowling alleys do you go to?

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Postby mcarch » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:32 am

I am told by family members and friends that there are funds that were given from the federal gov't for Omaha and Lincoln to choose a site.  These funds are of course held until a site can be made.  However, since Omaha and Lincoln have never been able to make a decision on where to build the airport these funds have been stored and left alone, possibly given/taken back.  I've never heard them say when this plan was in place, but I am sure its probably from the 70's as you have mentioned here.

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Postby icejammer » Thu Apr 29, 2010 1:31 pm

mcarch wrote:I am told by family members and friends that there are funds that were given from the federal gov't for Omaha and Lincoln to choose a site.  These funds are of course held until a site can be made.  However, since Omaha and Lincoln have never been able to make a decision on where to build the airport these funds have been stored and left alone, possibly given/taken back.  I've never heard them say when this plan was in place, but I am sure its probably from the 70's as you have mentioned here.


I can't imagine the funds, if indeed given out, haven't long ago gone back to the Fed govt, there's (almost) always an expiration date on these things.
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Postby DeWalt » Tue May 17, 2011 7:54 am

Stargazer wrote:I'm sure there will be an airport built between Lincoln and Omaha some day... though not in my lifetime.


Naahhhhh...  Being close to downtown Omaha is FAR more important than being close to anything between West O & Lincoln.

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Postby DTO Luv » Wed May 18, 2011 2:55 pm

Ok, this is a clear attempt to dig up something and start a flame war. Can someone who actually has moderating powers do something about this?
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