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Re: 2017 Omaha Mayoral Election

Postby nebugeater » Tue May 09, 2017 6:18 am

I probably should know this but why do City Elections for Counsel and Mayor In Omaha, and Lincoln for that matter, not follow the traditional elections cycle. This should be part of the normal Nov elections cycle.
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue May 09, 2017 11:01 am

nebugeater wrote:I probably should know this but why do City Elections for Counsel and Mayor In Omaha, and Lincoln for that matter, not follow the traditional elections cycle. This should be part of the normal Nov elections cycle.


If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's to keep the local 'nonpartisan' races apart from state and national partisan elections.
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Re: 2017 Omaha Mayoral Election

Postby nebugeater » Tue May 09, 2017 4:11 pm

RNcyanide wrote:
nebugeater wrote:I probably should know this but why do City Elections for Counsel and Mayor In Omaha, and Lincoln for that matter, not follow the traditional elections cycle. This should be part of the normal Nov elections cycle.


If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's to keep the local 'nonpartisan' races apart from state and national partisan elections.


and it ends up keeping voter turnout even lower and running up costs for another election.
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Postby omaharocks » Tue May 09, 2017 4:45 pm

I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?

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Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Tue May 09, 2017 5:52 pm

omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?



At the end of the day after the polls close at 8PM.......... all polling sites will take their ballots out to the Election Commission office to be counted. There will be a mass rush on the office with vehicles bringing in ballots from all over the city. Since the Election Commission Office is in West Omaha the first votes to be counted often are the ones from West O since they get there first. Stothert will look strong about 9PM while the early West O votes are being counted but once the votes from South Omaha and the inner city come in Mello will over take her!

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Postby Professor Woland » Tue May 09, 2017 10:19 pm

Stothert wins re-election. Either candidate would have been perfectly acceptable, I think this was probably the better outcome.

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Postby Linkin5 » Wed May 10, 2017 12:51 am

Happy with the results, let's get back to work mayor and get the street car, library, and other projects on the fast track.

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Postby nebugeater » Wed May 10, 2017 6:43 am

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?



At the end of the day after the polls close at 8PM.......... all polling sites will take their ballots out to the Election Commission office to be counted. There will be a mass rush on the office with vehicles bringing in ballots from all over the city. Since the Election Commission Office is in West Omaha the first votes to be counted often are the ones from West O since they get there first. Stothert will look strong about 9PM while the early West O votes are being counted but once the votes from South Omaha and the inner city come in Mello will over take her!
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Postby omaha79 » Wed May 10, 2017 6:44 am

Mello lost me when he pandered to the "gimme gimme a free road!" crowd. He shouldn't have gone there. That whole argument, especially laying it on Stothert, showed a fundamental lack of understanding on that issue.

My grandparents both lived around 48th and Q. When they were annexed, they were told that their road would stay the way it was, unimproved, unless the citizens chose to have the city improve it to Omaha standards including sidewalks, storm drains, and thick concrete. My mom's parents block chose to pave, my dad's stayed unimproved. My fathers parents block is unimproved to this day. So, I have no sympathy for Mello and the District 66 people that are now demanding freebies. He chose to side with them and it cost him.

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Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Wed May 10, 2017 8:03 am

nebugeater wrote:
GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?



At the end of the day after the polls close at 8PM.......... all polling sites will take their ballots out to the Election Commission office to be counted. There will be a mass rush on the office with vehicles bringing in ballots from all over the city. Since the Election Commission Office is in West Omaha the first votes to be counted often are the ones from West O since they get there first. Stothert will look strong about 9PM while the early West O votes are being counted but once the votes from South Omaha and the inner city come in Mello will over take her!



I underestimated the power of Putin. The Russians wanted Stothert and they made sure they got her. I will leave it to Rachel Madow to explain the exact details. :shock:

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Postby OmahaFan » Wed May 10, 2017 8:26 am

I'm really excited that Stothert got re-elected as our Mayor. She clearly has a proven track record and the citizen's of Omaha agree. There's some work to do because Mello got a good amount of the vote. Also regarding the voting I'm really dismayed at the number of people who voted in the general election. The Election commission was estimating around 83,000 people would vote more than 96,000 if I'm not mistaken voted which is good and higher then expectations but a city with 450,000 resident's it should be in the 200,000 range not 96,000.

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Postby skinzfan23 » Wed May 10, 2017 8:33 am

OmahaFan wrote:I'm really excited that Stothert got re-elected as our Mayor. She clearly has a proven track record and the citizen's of Omaha agree. There's some work to do because Mello got a good amount of the vote. Also regarding the voting I'm really dismayed at the number of people who voted in the general election. The Election commission was estimating around 83,000 people would vote more than 96,000 if I'm not mistaken voted which is good and higher then expectations but a city with 450,000 resident's it should be in the 200,000 range not 96,000.

I believe that there are around 280,000 registered voters in Douglas county....not all 500,000 residents are eligible to vote. So the turnout of 96,000 was around 33%.

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Postby GRANDPASMUCKER » Wed May 10, 2017 4:15 pm

OmahaFan wrote:I'm really excited that Stothert got re-elected as our Mayor. She clearly has a proven track record and the citizen's of Omaha agree. There's some work to do because Mello got a good amount of the vote. Also regarding the voting I'm really dismayed at the number of people who voted in the general election. The Election commission was estimating around 83,000 people would vote more than 96,000 if I'm not mistaken voted which is good and higher then expectations but a city with 450,000 resident's it should be in the 200,000 range not 96,000.


I have not heard or seen the numbers yet but you kind of get the feeling that the apathy and lack of voter turn out east of 72nd was pretty severe. If this Omaha election truly was a litmus test for the Democratic party nationwide as has been suggested, then the Democrats are in for a whole heap of trouble. The Dems are looking weaker then I can ever remember.

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Postby OmahaFan » Wed May 10, 2017 4:28 pm

Speaking of National politics and the Democratic party as a whole. I have to agree with you it was like the entire Democratic party was just gutted by Clinton not winning. They have no single leader to rally behind and there issues they run on are not really appealing to anyone except for there progressive base. I think the Democratic party is looking to go progressive instead of more moderate and well that's only going to hurt them in my opinion. Now during the election of Stothert Trump fired the FBI Director Jim Comey I have to be honest there was still enough time in the day where I thought well shucks this could hand Mello the election because it would motivate people to go out and take out there anger on Stothert. I was incorrect obviously but I see it as well the Democrats are in quite dire straights. They were kind using Omaha's election as a litmus test for 2018 elections which I found odd. I think the better test would be in that GA congressional race.

If the Democrats cannot win there with all that's going on I'd say they are in some dire straight because right now the Republican party is having a heck of time with messaging and communication. Trump Novice approach to govt only seems to be hurting him not helping him. The democrats goal in my opinion is to see Pres Trump dragged out of The White House in a orange jump suite and surrounded by U.S. Marshals. That's there main goal is to crush Donald Trump's presidency at all cost.

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Postby Dundeemaha » Wed May 10, 2017 8:42 pm

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:I have not heard or seen the numbers yet but you kind of get the feeling that the apathy and lack of voter turn out east of 72nd was pretty severe. If this Omaha election truly was a litmus test for the Democratic party nationwide as has been suggested, then the Democrats are in for a whole heap of trouble. The Dems are looking weaker then I can ever remember.


It seemed really strange to me that people were suggesting that. I know Mello tried to tie her to him but did anyone really believe that? It just seemed desperate on his part since she publicly stated she wrote in John McCain as she couldn't stomach voting for Trump.

I guess it showed that with an uninspiring candidate, anti-Trump sentiment won't defeat a centrist republican who voted against Trump.

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Postby Omaha_corn_burner » Thu May 11, 2017 8:19 am

I feel that national politics should have nothing to do with local mayoral elections. Who cares if a mayoral candidate is a democrat or republican? I just want to vote on who I think will take care of our city. When the national democratic party started promoting Mello, I was done with him.

Anyways, just my 2 cents. I live west of 72nd.

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Postby Garrett » Thu May 11, 2017 10:14 am

I mean honestly as a fairly liberal Democrat who voted for Sanders in the primary I'm perfectly happy with this outcome. Stothert has proven herself to be a good centrist mayor and not one to walk the party line.
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Postby omaha79 » Sat May 13, 2017 12:50 pm

Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I feel that national politics should have nothing to do with local mayoral elections. Who cares if a mayoral candidate is a democrat or republican? I just want to vote on who I think will take care of our city. When the national democratic party started promoting Mello, I was done with him.

Anyways, just my 2 cents. I live west of 72nd.



Yes, just like the idiocy of the democrats that were crying about Sanders supporting a mayoral candidate that was Pro-Life. honestly, I couldn't care less about a mayors pro-choice/pro-life stance. It is not a type of issue that is decided at that level anyway.

Everything is so partisan these days that every single person running for office has to the party litmus test on every single issue. It's nauseating.

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Garrett wrote:I mean honestly as a fairly liberal Democrat who voted for Sanders in the primary I'm perfectly happy with this outcome. Stothert has proven herself to be a good centrist mayor and not one to walk the party line.


I'm pretty much "meh" on Stothert or Mello..

I suppose Stothert winning another term was probably the "safest" outcome.. Although the sky wouldn't have fallen on Omaha had Mello won the election..

Stothert has been, in my estimation, a "fair to midland" mayor.. I really questioned her leadership abilities when the entire HDR downtown highrise plan came tumbling down last year.. Let's see if she learns from this gaffe...

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Postby RNcyanide » Sat May 13, 2017 1:24 pm

I think that whole debacle imploded due to the more conservative idea of government not meddling in the affairs of private businesses. As irritating as that whole fracas was, I'm happy she didn't get involved any more than she did. At the end, if I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
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RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

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RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

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You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown. However, she was willing to have the city pay for a parking garage for HDR if they continued with their plans to build downtown. And I thought that I saw the CEO of HDR donated to Stothert's campaign. But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.

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Postby Coyote » Sat May 20, 2017 12:22 am

So, one question still remains... Was this the promised new Downtown HQ building she promised years ago? Or was she just suggesting a Colorado Pipe Dream?
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choke wrote:
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RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

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You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.


I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..

Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...

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Postby OmahaFan » Wed May 24, 2017 6:26 am

I'm reading this stuff about a new library downtown and well quite honestly that will only attract the homeless people and make the area undesirable. heck look at the Downtown library right now it's homeless central and there is some pretty darn sketchy people who visit that area. Personally I think the money would be well spent on building a New police HQ for the police department. Heck the old police HQ is from the Late 60's to 70's. They have outgrown that building by a long shot not to mention the Omaha police evidence room is over stuffed with stuff. Then again they did do renovation's to the basement after taking the Jail out. Still though I think that area would be better suited to have a new police HQ rather then a new Library that will just bring in Homeless people.

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Omaha Cowboy wrote:
choke wrote:
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RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

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You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.


I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..

Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...

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Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.

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choke wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
choke wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.


I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..

Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.


He has a big house on Lake of the Ozarks which is kind of close to KC :lol: The article in the paper once stated that he had two boats anchored to his docks that were worth over 300,000 dollars each. I'm pretty sure he owns that big huge trailer park by Lake Zorinsky and a number of other things around town.

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon May 29, 2017 7:47 pm

GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:
choke wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
choke wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.


She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.


I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..

Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...

Ciao..LiO...Peace


Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.


He has a big house on Lake of the Ozarks which is kind of close to KC :lol: The article in the paper once stated that he had two boats anchored to his docks that were worth over 300,000 dollars each. I'm pretty sure he owns that big huge trailer park by Lake Zorinsky and a number of other things around town.


Yeah. He owns property in the Lake of the Ozarks.. and still maintains a residence here in Omaha from what I understand..

In the history of Omaha, as it relates to wealth, Fahey was the richest mayor in terms of person income.. Ever...

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choke wrote:Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.


I still see him a Creighton Basketball games. He sits right behind the Radio/TV guys.
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