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Postby bigredmed » Wed Aug 27, 2014 1:18 pm

Bringing up the bond rating saves millions of dollars that in other cities are part and parcel of their decline. Eventually you can do nothing but pay the interest on the bonds.

She should be impeached if she spent money on new stuff before beefing up the reserve fund.

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Postby Bosco55David » Mon Sep 01, 2014 2:00 pm

Is the Mayor allowed to do line item vetos in Omaha, or would the budget have to go back to the City Council?

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Postby Coyote » Thu Sep 04, 2014 8:54 am

Stothert vetoes four budget amendments

KETV wrote:Stothert cited the need for saving, not spending, in a release issued Thursday morning.

The four items Stothert vetoed include: the $60,000 position of Complete Streets Active Living Manager in the Public Works Department; $40,0000 to fund exhibits at the Great Plains Black History Museum; $50,000 for sustainability consulting; and a $175,000 appropriation to the Omaha Public Library for materials.

I'm surprised she did not veto Festerson's 8 additional OPD personnel.
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bigredmed wrote:Bringing up the bond rating saves millions of dollars that in other cities are part and parcel of their decline.  Eventually you can do nothing but pay the interest on the bonds.

She should be impeached if she spent money on new stuff before beefing up the reserve fund.


Not likely. Fahey built the ballpark when the debt on the Qwest Center had pay down issues. Nothing happened to him.

Amazing that so many are mad at Stothert for vetoes but were not mad when the democratic mayors did the same. Working with the council and rubber stamping everything that gets plopped on your desktop art 2 different issues.

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Postby Dundeemaha » Fri Sep 05, 2014 10:13 am

bbinks wrote:Amazing that so many are mad at Stothert for vetoes but were not mad when the democratic mayors did the same.  Working with the council and rubber stamping everything that gets plopped on your desktop art 2 different issues.


I would think that people are mad because they disagree with what was vetoed not the idea of vetoing things. Therefore someone who for example believes we spend too much money on road widening and not enough money on "complete streets" would be happy with a veto to a road widening line item and upset with a veto to a coordinator position focused on improving our roads for non-car use. Not really amazing at all, pretty much common sense.

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City Council over rode the Library Budget veto...
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Coyote wrote:City Council over rode the Library Budget veto...



Good for Council.

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Postby Coyote » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:31 am

Jean Stothert wrote:After nine months, we now expect to end the year with a $9.5 million surplus. The third quarter financial report, released today shows expenses are under budget by $5.6 million dollars; revenue is up by nearly $4 million.
The City Charter will require the year end surplus to be carried over to 2016.
We are controlling expenses. Revenue can be unpredictable. That’s why we monitor expenses department by department constantly, always careful not to reduce the services taxpayers expect and deserve.
Highlights of the 3rd quarter report include:
The Police Department is estimated to be $3.05 million under budget due to savings in wages and benefits and health care costs.
Planning, Parks, Finance, Human Resources, Public Works and Library are also projected to be under the general fund budget.
The Omaha Fire Department remains slightly over budget; less than a half million dollars, ($0.34 million) attributed to wages and costs associated with injuries, resignations and the deaths of active duty firefighters.
Property tax and sales tax revenue is up, while restaurant tax revenue is under budget by $1 million.
The 2014 projected surplus has grown from $6.1 million at the end of the second quarter to $9.5 million.
For three consecutive quarters we have controlled spending and managed the budget. The projected surplus shows my commitment to spending the taxpayer’s money carefully.


Are we getting rid of the Restaurant Tax?
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:59 am

Was the restaurant tax for general city funds or did it go to specific departments?

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iamjacobm wrote:Was the restaurant tax for general city funds or did it go to specific departments?


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Dining out, registering a car and owning a home in Omaha would all cost more under Mayor Jim Suttle's 2011 budget proposal.

Stressing the need to "put the city's financial house in order," Suttle outlined two tax increases and a new restaurant tax that would generate a total of $44 million in new revenue. Suttle presented his plan to the City Council Tuesday.

The tax increases wouldn't put a dent in only Omahans' wallets. Anyone who eats at the city's restaurants, drinks at a bar or hires a caterer would pay more. So would motorists who live in Omaha or in most Douglas County subdivisions.

Suttle said the city needs new sources of revenue to climb out of a $33.5 million budget shortfall projected for next year.
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:49 am

Sounds like if it went away we would have a budget shortfall though.

Idk if this is even possible, but I wonder if instead of cutting it and then possibly having to find another tax to create to find our potential future transportation costs if we could put that tax to work toward a goal. Make it something like half to roads and half to public transit or even somethin like a third to public transit and the rest to roads.

If it brings in $30 million a year that could be shifted to actual projects so people can see exactly where that money is helping them instead of throwing it all in the same pot.

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Postby iamjacobm » Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:03 am

http://www.virtualpressoffice.com/publicsiteContentFileAccess?fileContentId=1815180&fromOtherPageToDisableHistory=Y&menuName=News&sId=&sInfo=

The Urban Land Institute (ULI) announced today that the mayors of Boston, Omaha, Pittsburgh and Seattle have been selected to participate in the 2015 class of fellows for the Rose Center for Public Leadership. The mayor of each city will lead a team of three fellows and a coordinator, who together will select a local land use challenge for which they will receive technical assistance from faculty experts assembled by ULI and their peers from the other three fellowship cities.

The Daniel Rose Center Fellowship program is the flagship program of the Rose Center, established in 2008 with a grant from ULI Foundation Governor Daniel Rose to encourage and support excellence in land use decision making by local governments. The Rose Center seeks to foster creative, efficient, practical and sustainable land use policies by providing public officials with access to information, best practices, peer networks and other resources. The Fellowship's program of work includes a study tour of another U.S. or foreign city, a working retreat, and study visits to each of the four fellowship cities.

Earlier this year, ULI and the National League of Cities (NLC), which collectively represent the world's foremost real estate professionals and the nation's most distinguished municipal leaders, signed a partnership agreement to guide the oversight and operations of the Rose Center for Public Leadership. The agreement takes effect January 1, 2015. The new class of fellows and Rose Center Executive Director Jess Zimbabwe are attending the National League of Cities 2014 Congress of Cities and Exposition this week in Austin, Texas.

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iamjacobm wrote:http://www.virtualpressoffice.com/publicsiteContentFileAccess?fileContentId=1815180&fromOtherPageToDisableHistory=Y&menuName=News&sId=&sInfo=

The Urban Land Institute (ULI) announced today that the mayors of Boston, Omaha, Pittsburgh and Seattle have been selected to participate in the 2015 class of fellows for the Rose Center for Public Leadership. The mayor of each city will lead a team of three fellows and a coordinator, who together will select a local land use challenge for which they will receive technical assistance from faculty experts assembled by ULI and their peers from the other three fellowship cities.

The Daniel Rose Center Fellowship program is the flagship program of the Rose Center, established in 2008 with a grant from ULI Foundation Governor Daniel Rose to encourage and support excellence in land use decision making by local governments. The Rose Center seeks to foster creative, efficient, practical and sustainable land use policies by providing public officials with access to information, best practices, peer networks and other resources. The Fellowship's program of work includes a study tour of another U.S. or foreign city, a working retreat, and study visits to each of the four fellowship cities.

Earlier this year, ULI and the National League of Cities (NLC), which collectively represent the world's foremost real estate professionals and the nation's most distinguished municipal leaders, signed a partnership agreement to guide the oversight and operations of the Rose Center for Public Leadership. The agreement takes effect January 1, 2015. The new class of fellows and Rose Center Executive Director Jess Zimbabwe are attending the National League of Cities 2014 Congress of Cities and Exposition this week in Austin, Texas.


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I am assuming it is for the riverfront. Just found it interesting.

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Postby RNcyanide » Thu Mar 19, 2015 10:52 am

Mayor Stothert refuses to apologize to a mother demanding an apology for the police busting her underage child at a house party. It's unbelievable that this woman would think that the mayor would comply with this absurd request.

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Postby bigredmed » Thu Mar 19, 2015 3:31 pm

The mother has succeeded in two missions. To make the mayor more popular and to make herself the butt of withering criticism.

Frankly, the mayor's response was correct. If you have a problem with the cops, file a complaint.

Her notions that people are going to apologize to her without some facts that are tested in court or at least by the civilian oversight board are disturbingly entitled.

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Postby icejammer » Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:16 pm

Hopefully the mayor sent the letter to the media before sending it to the mother!
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Postby RNcyanide » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:34 pm

I can't believe she did that. I hope she's pleased with being called out on it too.
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Postby HR Paperstacks » Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:58 pm

I'll say this - from my experience growing up, police tend to try to intimidate kids into doing what they want. There were times that I had done nothing wrong yet they tried to pull stuff like that on me. That's why I don't really trust them to this day. My parents even feel the same way after some of the things they did for no good reason. In the end, everything always worked out, but it left a lasting impression. That was over 10 years ago, so I don't really know how things are today.

The police do need to be called when they overstep their bounds. But going to the media first without discussing it through the proper channels is just stupid and only made the mother look stupid. Going to the media should be a last resort. When my parents filed an internal complaint, they took it very seriously and eventually had the cops apologize along with some other disciplinary actions they would not disclose (personnel issues protected by their contract).

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Postby Brad » Fri Mar 20, 2015 9:37 pm

Why is nobody actually focusing on the actual problem here? A parent knowingly let 70-100 kids come party in her house... Nobody is saying anything about that.
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Postby bigredmed » Sat Mar 21, 2015 5:39 am

Brad wrote:Why is nobody actually focusing on the actual problem here?  A parent knowingly let 70-100 kids come party in her house...  Nobody is saying anything about that.

Possibly because those parents are lawyered up and are not stupid enough to speak in public.

You're correct in that this is the bigger problem. Hope these parents get a keg full of what's coming to them.

The reaction was to this one mother's act which was so shockingly brazen and generally odd, that it lit people up.

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Postby S33 » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:23 am

Brad wrote:Why is nobody actually focusing on the actual problem here?  A parent knowingly let 70-100 kids come party in her house...  Nobody is saying anything about that.

Because that is the direction society has evolved over the last 50 years or so. Nobody is responsible for anything. If I did something bad, I either had justification or it didn't matter what I did wrong because somebody was mean to me after the fact, and that issue, instead, needs dealt with.

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Postby RNcyanide » Sat Mar 21, 2015 9:54 am

Brad wrote:Why is nobody actually focusing on the actual problem here?  A parent knowingly let 70-100 kids come party in her house...  Nobody is saying anything about that.


I'm assuming the responsible (irresponsible?) parties have been punished accordingly. There's been MIP parties before, there'll be MIP parties after. It just happened that ants must have devoured the part of this woman's brain responsible for judgement to the point she thought this was a good idea.
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Postby lmdramos » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:01 am

Just because she went about it the wrong way doesn't mean what she is saying is not the truth. In fact, I bet it is most likely true.

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Postby RNcyanide » Sat Mar 21, 2015 10:18 am

My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot. I just don't understand, I guess. I'm not saying the police do everything right and I am pretty critical of a lot of the things they do, but I don't think the cops were that happy to be dealing with drunk 15-18 year olds, especially considering things like alcohol poisoning, rape and violence could have all came out of this situation.
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RNcyanide wrote:My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot. I just don't understand, I guess. I'm not saying the police do everything right and I am pretty critical of a lot of the things they do, but I don't think the cops were that happy to be dealing with drunk 15-18 year olds, especially considering things like alcohol poisoning, rape and violence could have all came out of this situation.
rape? Seriously? We were all this age, at one time. I think rape accusations are getting out of hand, because I've never heard of that growing up. It was simply kids drinking alcohol making stupid decisions.

The morning after, sure, probably regret from all angles, but regret and irresponsibility very rarely was maligned as rape.
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RNcyanide wrote:My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot. I just don't understand, I guess. I'm not saying the police do everything right and I am pretty critical of a lot of the things they do, but I don't think the cops were that happy to be dealing with drunk 15-18 year olds, especially considering things like alcohol poisoning, rape and violence could have all came out of this situation.
rape? Seriously? We were all this age, at one time. I think rape accusations are getting out of hand, because I've never heard of that growing up. It was simply kids drinking alcohol making stupid decisions.

The morning after, sure, probably regret from all angles, but regret and irresponsibility very rarely was maligned as rape.


Regardless, there's a lot of danger and stupidity to deal with when busting a party full of drunk teens.
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Postby bigredmed » Sat Mar 21, 2015 8:08 pm

The cops handled this like any other kegger. Some special snowflake got busted and the other end of the umbilical cord couldn't handle it.

This kid is going to go through heck. School is probably going poorly and there will probably be a lot less likelihood of a plea deal.

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RNcyanide wrote:
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RNcyanide wrote:My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot. I just don't understand, I guess. I'm not saying the police do everything right and I am pretty critical of a lot of the things they do, but I don't think the cops were that happy to be dealing with drunk 15-18 year olds, especially considering things like alcohol poisoning, rape and violence could have all came out of this situation.
rape? Seriously? We were all this age, at one time. I think rape accusations are getting out of hand, because I've never heard of that growing up. It was simply kids drinking alcohol making stupid decisions.

The morning after, sure, probably regret from all angles, but regret and irresponsibility very rarely was maligned as rape.


Regardless, there's a lot of danger and stupidity to deal with when busting a party full of drunk teens.

So did you think they were going to rape the cops? :D
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Postby RNcyanide » Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:47 am

You can never be too careful.
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Postby bigredmed » Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:59 pm

Big danger is from the result of self defense.

Go to Ghettotown and break up a party, some idiot pulls a gun and the cops shoot him. The reaction is the usual 50 people at the party and yet no witnesses, except that all 75 saw the cop shoot first. This dies down and goes away.
Go to Beemertown and break up a party, some idiot takes a swing at a cop who ducks and his partner puts little Joshie-poo on the ground with left hook to the ear. The reaction is screaming mothers on KETV and complaints about police brutality and lawsuits because he can't study due to the PTSD from that horrible night and this will blow his shot to go to Harvard.

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Postby RNcyanide » Sun Mar 22, 2015 1:39 pm

bigredmed wrote:Big danger is from the result of self defense.

Go to Ghettotown and break up a party, some idiot pulls a gun and the cops shoot him.  The reaction is the usual 50 people at the party and yet no witnesses, except that all 75 saw the cop shoot first.  This dies down and goes away.
Go to Beemertown and break up a party, some idiot takes a swing at a cop who ducks and his partner puts little Joshie-poo on the ground with left hook to the ear.  The reaction is screaming mothers on KETV and complaints about police brutality and lawsuits because he can't study due to the PTSD from that horrible night and this will blow his shot to go to Harvard.


That's pretty much what I think happened, which is why I'm not too concerned about the kids or their parents here. They need to learn that if they're going to do something so stupid as a house party with 70 other people, they're going to get popped and pay for it.

Seriously, I went to house parties starting when I was 18, and when I saw there were people outside or super loud music, I went back home. It's common |expletive| sense.
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RNcyanide wrote:My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot.


I think this is just another example of parents eroding kids respect for authority. I have family who have been school teachers, and too often, when they disciplined a student for breaking the rules, the parents would attack the teacher, often in front of their child. Starting things like that an an early age is a recipe for turning your kids into selfish narcissists. The scenario with this woman seems to be the same thing, only instead of a teacher at school, this time it was the police.

I'm not even that old (30), but my parents handled those situations far differently. Even if they suspected unfairness on the teacher's (or other authority's) part, they would never directly undermine them in front of them. To have a functioning, civilized society, you have to have a foundational respect for authority. Authorities definitely have to be held accountable, which is why we have systems in place to do this, but when the first conclusion is that the authority is wrong, chaos is bound to ensue.

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Seth wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:My parents must be caught from a different cloth. If I had been at that party underage and got roughed up by the cops, or 'intimidated' or whatever, they would have probably told me to suck it up and not be an idiot.


I think this is just another example of parents eroding kids respect for authority.  I have family who have been school teachers, and too often, when they disciplined a student for breaking the rules, the parents would attack the teacher, often in front of their child.  Starting things like that an an early age is a recipe for turning your kids into selfish narcissists.  The scenario with this woman seems to be the same thing, only instead of a teacher at school, this time it was the police.

I'm not even that old (30), but my parents handled those situations far differently.  Even if they suspected unfairness on the teacher's (or other authority's) part, they would never directly undermine them in front of them.  To have a functioning, civilized society, you have to have a foundational respect for authority.  Authorities definitely have to be held accountable, which is why we have systems in place to do this, but when the first conclusion is that the authority is wrong, chaos is bound to ensue.
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Postby iamjacobm » Thu Apr 09, 2015 12:38 pm

Stothert has vocally supported the bill to grant Dreamers drivers liscenses and has vocally opposed a bill to limit TIF. I think she has shown to be far more moderate than the stance she ran on. I am a pretty big fan of much of the things she has done.

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Postby MadMartin8 » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:31 pm

iamjacobm wrote:Stothert has vocally supported the bill to grant Dreamers drivers liscenses and has vocally opposed a bill to limit TIF. I think she has shown to be far more moderate than the stance she ran on. I am a pretty big fan of much of the things she has done.


That's pretty shocking, the first one more so than the second one.
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Postby RNcyanide » Thu Apr 09, 2015 2:34 pm

I remember a while back, a reporter asked Mayor Stothert if she had ambitions to run for a state office, to which she said absolutely not. This would allow her to take advantage of the more moderate political climate in Omaha and do things like this. That way, she doesn't have to worry about goose-stepping with a party and having this come back to haunt her like other politicians would.
When fortune smiles on something as violent and ugly as revenge, it seems proof like no other that not only does God exist, you're doing his will.

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