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If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's to keep the local 'nonpartisan' races apart from state and national partisan elections.nebugeater wrote:I probably should know this but why do City Elections for Counsel and Mayor In Omaha, and Lincoln for that matter, not follow the traditional elections cycle. This should be part of the normal Nov elections cycle.
and it ends up keeping voter turnout even lower and running up costs for another election.RNcyanide wrote:If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say it's to keep the local 'nonpartisan' races apart from state and national partisan elections.nebugeater wrote:I probably should know this but why do City Elections for Counsel and Mayor In Omaha, and Lincoln for that matter, not follow the traditional elections cycle. This should be part of the normal Nov elections cycle.
omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?
GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?
At the end of the day after the polls close at 8PM.......... all polling sites will take their ballots out to the Election Commission office to be counted. There will be a mass rush on the office with vehicles bringing in ballots from all over the city. Since the Election Commission Office is in West Omaha the first votes to be counted often are the ones from West O since they get there first. Stothert will look strong about 9PM while the early West O votes are being counted but once the votes from South Omaha and the inner city come in Mello will over take her!
nebugeater wrote:GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:omaharocks wrote:I work near the Election Commission office and they have it set up again today (primary was same) as if there will be big crowds going there. Maybe I'm missing something, but on the actual voting day, isn't it the assumption that voters will go to their polling places? I thought going to the commission office was simply for voting early. Who can answer this one for me?
At the end of the day after the polls close at 8PM.......... all polling sites will take their ballots out to the Election Commission office to be counted. There will be a mass rush on the office with vehicles bringing in ballots from all over the city. Since the Election Commission Office is in West Omaha the first votes to be counted often are the ones from West O since they get there first. Stothert will look strong about 9PM while the early West O votes are being counted but once the votes from South Omaha and the inner city come in Mello will over take her!
I believe that there are around 280,000 registered voters in Douglas county....not all 500,000 residents are eligible to vote. So the turnout of 96,000 was around 33%.OmahaFan wrote:I'm really excited that Stothert got re-elected as our Mayor. She clearly has a proven track record and the citizen's of Omaha agree. There's some work to do because Mello got a good amount of the vote. Also regarding the voting I'm really dismayed at the number of people who voted in the general election. The Election commission was estimating around 83,000 people would vote more than 96,000 if I'm not mistaken voted which is good and higher then expectations but a city with 450,000 resident's it should be in the 200,000 range not 96,000.
I have not heard or seen the numbers yet but you kind of get the feeling that the apathy and lack of voter turn out east of 72nd was pretty severe. If this Omaha election truly was a litmus test for the Democratic party nationwide as has been suggested, then the Democrats are in for a whole heap of trouble. The Dems are looking weaker then I can ever remember.OmahaFan wrote:I'm really excited that Stothert got re-elected as our Mayor. She clearly has a proven track record and the citizen's of Omaha agree. There's some work to do because Mello got a good amount of the vote. Also regarding the voting I'm really dismayed at the number of people who voted in the general election. The Election commission was estimating around 83,000 people would vote more than 96,000 if I'm not mistaken voted which is good and higher then expectations but a city with 450,000 resident's it should be in the 200,000 range not 96,000.
It seemed really strange to me that people were suggesting that. I know Mello tried to tie her to him but did anyone really believe that? It just seemed desperate on his part since she publicly stated she wrote in John McCain as she couldn't stomach voting for Trump.GRANDPASMUCKER wrote: I have not heard or seen the numbers yet but you kind of get the feeling that the apathy and lack of voter turn out east of 72nd was pretty severe. If this Omaha election truly was a litmus test for the Democratic party nationwide as has been suggested, then the Democrats are in for a whole heap of trouble. The Dems are looking weaker then I can ever remember.
Omaha_corn_burner wrote:I feel that national politics should have nothing to do with local mayoral elections. Who cares if a mayoral candidate is a democrat or republican? I just want to vote on who I think will take care of our city. When the national democratic party started promoting Mello, I was done with him.
Anyways, just my 2 cents. I live west of 72nd.
I'm pretty much "meh" on Stothert or Mello..Garrett wrote:I mean honestly as a fairly liberal Democrat who voted for Sanders in the primary I'm perfectly happy with this outcome. Stothert has proven herself to be a good centrist mayor and not one to walk the party line.
She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown. However, she was willing to have the city pay for a parking garage for HDR if they continued with their plans to build downtown. And I thought that I saw the CEO of HDR donated to Stothert's campaign. But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
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I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..choke wrote:You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.Omaha Cowboy wrote:I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..choke wrote:You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
He has a big house on Lake of the Ozarks which is kind of close to KCchoke wrote:Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.Omaha Cowboy wrote:I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..choke wrote:You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
The article in the paper once stated that he had two boats anchored to his docks that were worth over 300,000 dollars each. I'm pretty sure he owns that big huge trailer park by Lake Zorinsky and a number of other things around town.Yeah. He owns property in the Lake of the Ozarks.. and still maintains a residence here in Omaha from what I understand..GRANDPASMUCKER wrote:He has a big house on Lake of the Ozarks which is kind of close to KCchoke wrote:Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.Omaha Cowboy wrote:I agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..choke wrote:You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
I still see him a Creighton Basketball games. He sits right behind the Radio/TV guys.choke wrote:Does Fahey live in Kansas City? I know he's from there and thought he had moved back after his mayoral tenure.
Oh, please. She knows exactly what she's doing. She wants everybody to believe how competent she is (even quoting something about nobody ever suggesting to her a new mayor is needed in Omaha, meaning because shes so accomplishing & great...), then she wants to "play dumb" when she wants to "play dumb." I'm sorry, she's a sharper gal than that. Oh, she's so "gung ho" about development for Omaha, including being majorally involved in this riverfront development, but she's then "not fully present" and "dazed & confused" and "not at the top of her game" when HDR was excitingly going to possibly build a major new building downtown? Really? Was she fighting the flu that week, or something? (I could tell HDR was annoyed or hurt by something that went on. I didn't know what exactly, though. It felt like they got irked & suddenly "turned their back" on Downtown Omaha, and turned to Aksarben. Were key leaders strangely unenthusiastic because HDR's building "got in the way" of their new riverfront plan that was brewing, making HDR feel a strange & unexpected "cold shoulder?") She's a respectable woman and has done a lot of good. Yet, willful, driven, and an aggressive "go getter", I just don't buy all that "Sorry guys. I could have done better..." hinesight stuff. And, I dont know if I trust her now, honestly. I dont know of I even want a mayor that isnt from the Omaha area. She's from the St Louis area, then Seattle, then Texas, then Omaha. I know she cares and wants to do good on a certain level, I can see that in her, but does she even care for Omaha beyond typical city issues & needs & problems & goals? Or, is it "just another US city" to serve, to be elected to power, and push her weight around for a season -- then she "moves off to the Carolinas" when she's done & no longer the center of attention in Omaha, or something? Furthermore, I'm not sure she truly & deeply cares about Omaha design or aesthetics -- or has a sense about what is right. I bet she doesnt TRULY care about our skyline -- the way we do here. And, why is a mayor from IOWA united with her as one of the major, key people in Omaha's riverfront development plan, I learn? Yes, Council Bluffs is a "friendly adjacent city" to Omaha just across a river, but believe me, at the end of the day, they are more for "their Des Moines, Iowa", than they are for adjacent Omaha. Is Omaha ultimately more for adjacent Council Bluffs than for "our Lincoln, Nebraska?" Absolutely not. Don't kid yourself... Stothert is not from Omaha so I doubt she knows anything about the "Nebraska/Iowa thing" at all, nor can feel it, the way that we natives do, the way that Iowa mayor does. (Being from Omaha, I can't even write "Iowa/Nebraska", while still liking Iowa, being born in Iowa, having plenty of family in Iowa, and being friendly overall towards Iowa. There's a "pride thing" that exists.)Omaha Cowboy wrote: ↑Sun May 21, 2017 12:02 pmI agree with you regarding the potential downtown library development.. If she can somehow pull that one off, it will be her signature development which will define her mayoral tenure.. Kind of like Fahey when he negotiated the 25 year CWS extension..choke wrote:You are correct in that Stothert did admit it was a mistake to not have gotten all the parties together and work out their differences regarding HDR building downtown.But, at the end of the day, she really should have had a meeting to sooth over everyone's complaints about the project that never happened. There is no do-overs. You can't get that one back. I think she saw what she lost and is going to try and make up for it by soliciting the downtown library spot.Omaha Cowboy wrote:She admitted that if she had to do it all over again (the HDR snafu), she would have gotten everyone involved in a room and got the differences hashed out.. Which displays true leadership.. That she made this admission, actually gives me hope she can be a more effective mayor for her 2nd term...RNcyanide wrote:I recall correctly, she did try to sweeten the deal with the city paying for more parking but it was too little too late. Plus, she would have made an enemy out of one or both of some heavy names in the city. It was probably the safest option.
Ciao..LiO...Peace
Speaking of Fahey, I saw him at a coffee shop this past Friday afternoon. If the place wasn't so busy and he was not having his own conversation, I would have loved to engage him in some discussion. Oh well, opportunity lost...
Ciao..LiO...Peace
I understand that. Researching her background, one article said "1992" and one said "1993." That's far enough back that I'm sure Omaha may feel like "home" to her by now, but my point was that she is not a "true native" of Omaha.
Jim Suttle was born in Colorado. Mike Fahey was born in Kansas City. Hal Daub was born in North Carolina. The last mayor I can tell definitively based on minor research was born in Omaha was Ed Zorinksy who left office in 1976x I’m struggling to see your point.RockHarbor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:34 pmI understand that. Researching her background, one article said "1992" and one said "1993." That's far enough back that I'm sure Omaha may feel like "home" to her by now, but my point was that she is not a "true native" of Omaha.
Garrett, I'm not saying an Omaha mayor has to always be from Omaha. Im not saying they cant move there, and settle in, and do a good job in Omaha. I just like the idea better when they are a native. Why? Because they "get" Omaha & Nebraska more, because I know they deeply care. Do you like the idea of an Omaha mayor or Nebraska senator sitting with an Oklahoma sweatshirt on, or watching their hometown's hockey game, on a Nebraska game day, when Lincoln is filled with "Nebraska Red?" I don't. Get my point now?Garrett wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:47 pmJim Suttle was born in Colorado. Mike Fahey was born in Kansas City. Hal Daub was born in North Carolina. The last mayor I can tell definitively based on minor research was born in Omaha was Ed Zorinksy who left office in 1976x I’m struggling to see your point.RockHarbor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:34 pmI understand that. Researching her background, one article said "1992" and one said "1993." That's far enough back that I'm sure Omaha may feel like "home" to her by now, but my point was that she is not a "true native" of Omaha.
Oh I get your point, I just find it entirely lacking any substance beyond mild xenophobia. One doesn’t have to cheer for the Huskers to do a good job as mayor. I didn’t realize that sports cheering had a significant impact on one’s ability to serve the public. Stothert obviously deeply cares about Omaha, as she has been working in public service in some form since 1997 here. I would say all of the mayors that I listed deeply cared about Omaha too. The idea that they have fly out of their mother’s uterus in the middle of Gene Leahy Mall in order to properly care about the city is soooooooo small-town “we don’t like outsiders” minded that it’s absurdRockHarbor wrote: ↑Mon Aug 27, 2018 8:46 pmGarrett, I'm not saying an Omaha mayor has to always be from Omaha. Im not saying they cant move there, and settle in, and do a good job in Omaha. I just like the idea better when they are a native. Why? Because they "get" Omaha & Nebraska more, because I know they deeply care. Do you like the idea of an Omaha mayor or Nebraska senator sitting with an Oklahoma sweatshirt on, or watching their hometown's hockey game, on a Nebraska game day, when Lincoln is filled with "Nebraska Red?" I don't. Get my point now?Garrett wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 9:47 pmJim Suttle was born in Colorado. Mike Fahey was born in Kansas City. Hal Daub was born in North Carolina. The last mayor I can tell definitively based on minor research was born in Omaha was Ed Zorinksy who left office in 1976x I’m struggling to see your point.RockHarbor wrote: ↑Sun Aug 26, 2018 5:34 pmI understand that. Researching her background, one article said "1992" and one said "1993." That's far enough back that I'm sure Omaha may feel like "home" to her by now, but my point was that she is not a "true native" of Omaha.
See, I genuinely understand your point, because it is a general & understandable & logic point. So is mine. I prefer a Nebraska native, personally, if I could choose. That's understandable for many reasons. (But, that still wouldnt stop me in voting for Stothert again. I overall like her, and think she does a good job. She's just too sharp for me to believe her say "Oops...I missed the boat. Sorry guys! Silly me! Hee hee!" and believe it, especially when it was something important.) I swear, I could say a general & understandable & logic point like: "At a home pool or a public pool, parents should really try their best to always keep a sharp eye on any children swimming..." and you guys would probably argue it.almighty_tuna wrote: ↑Tue Aug 28, 2018 11:27 am Not arguing just to argue; I don't agree with your perspective. I do see what you're trying to convey with your logic that a Nebraska/Omaha native would presumably be more invested in the city and therefore be inherently more qualified and a better mayor. I counter that I'd rather elect a more qualified candidate based on their abilities, vision, and record instead of the arbitrary chance that they may be from Elkhorn, or Ord, or Scottsbluff.
By that logic you would not have hired Bob Devaney as the Huskers' coach as he was a Michigan native. Yet somehow he was arguably our most legendary football coach (don't start, that's a whole different thread). So I'm simply pointing out that your desire to limit the candidate pool most qualified to have our best interests at heart to those born in Nebraska as being short-sighted when many very qualified candidates are not necessarily from the Omaha area.
If I *really* wanted to argue just to argue I'd say your nationalist perspective as it relates to Nebraska natives unfairly discriminates against qualified candidates who aren't native Nebraskans. Being that the racial make-up of Nebraska is 82.1% non-Hispanic white and the national white demographic is 62% one can clearly see that you are attempting to suppress well qualified, diverse candidates to represent a city whose non-hispanic white demo of 68% is more representative of the national demographic. But, I'm out of popcorn....