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Postby Coyote » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:45 am

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Omaha Fire Department Investigating Controversial Photos

WOWT wrote:An investigation is underway after some controversial photos surfaced this morning involving a woman and two Omaha firefighters
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Postby Omababe » Tue Jul 23, 2013 6:55 am

Coyote wrote:]An investigation is underway after some controversial photos surfaced this morning involving a woman and two Omaha firefighters


OMG, HerHonor is gonna have a field day with that one!

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Postby Bosco55David » Tue Jul 23, 2013 9:52 am

Coyote wrote:Oops:

Omaha Fire Department Investigating Controversial Photos

WOWT wrote:An investigation is underway after some controversial photos surfaced this morning involving a woman and two Omaha firefighters


Oh yeah, real controversial. Her standing on the truck and posing with two firefighters.  :roll:

By the way, that chick has a smokin' body.

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Postby Uffda » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:55 am

Yeah not sure what the controversy is with those photos. Member of the public stopped by a fire house and got her photo taken with a couple of firemen and another on the truck.

Don't they let little kids get the same photos taken?

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Postby Brad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:06 am

The only problem I can see if that the public is not allowed up on equipment for liability reasons (Not just the girl, but anyone).

If anyone can get up there, then who cares...  Waste of time and tax dollars instigating this.
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Postby Coyote » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:36 am

Brad wrote:The only problem I can see if that the public is not allowed up on equipment for liability reasons (Not just the girl, but anyone).

If anyone can get up there, then who cares...  Waste of time and tax dollars instigating this.


WOWT wrote:It's not unheard of for firefighters to pose for pictures on-the-job -- or even let children sit in the truck and hit the siren -- while they wait for an emergency call.
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Postby Bosco55David » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:23 pm

Pretty much a non issue. Local news trying to drum up ratings like usual.

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Postby S33 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 12:59 pm

Bosco55David wrote:Pretty much a non issue. Local news trying to drum up ratings like usual.
Yep, just more fake outrage perpetuated by the "bored" media. I guess if this is "news", then that is good news.
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Postby jessep28 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:38 pm

The Anthony Garcia case is transitioning into the boring pre-trial stage, so we will likely see more of these stories.
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Postby Brad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 1:39 pm

S33 wrote:
Bosco55David wrote:Pretty much a non issue. Local news trying to drum up ratings like usual.
Yep, just more fake outrage perpetuated by the "bored" media. I guess if this is "news", then that is good news.


The "problem" is that this story will get good comments on the new's Facebook Page, and that's want local news is all about these days...
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Postby guitarguy » Tue Jul 23, 2013 3:22 pm

The one of her backside does seem just a little inappropriate for city paid firefighters to be taking part in. But I do appreciate the gesture by this fine woman!  8)

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Postby S33 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:20 pm

A police investigation...
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:45 pm

Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
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Postby S33 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:47 pm

RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
Kind of like the whole TM/GZ media distraction, perpetuated by the executive office and his henchman, Eric Holder. : )
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Postby Brad » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:49 pm

What a waste of time money...  

Its not like they don't have 3 shootings to investigate from yesterday...
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Postby RNcyanide » Tue Jul 23, 2013 4:50 pm

S33 wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
Kind of like the whole TM/GZ media distraction, perpetuated by the executive office and his henchman, Eric Holder. : )


Yay for balanced news coverage!!! I wonder what we've missed about the NSA's activities thanks to that?
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Postby jessep28 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:00 pm

It's totally okay for the police department to run all their misconduct allegations through internal investigations, but the fire department needs a third party to look into theirs?
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Postby S33 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 10:41 pm

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S33 wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
Kind of like the whole TM/GZ media distraction, perpetuated by the executive office and his henchman, Eric Holder. : )


Yay for balanced news coverage!!! I wonder what we've missed about the NSA's activities thanks to that?
I was being more facetious, but it definitely is a good example of a non-story taking the headlines thanks to the media and president. I'm sure Americans have more important |expletive| to worry about than Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman, just like Omaha's don't really give a flying |expletive| about some chick sticking her |expletive| out on a fire truck.
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Postby jessep28 » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:05 pm

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RNcyanide wrote:
S33 wrote:[quote="RNcyanide"]Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
Kind of like the whole TM/GZ media distraction, perpetuated by the executive office and his henchman, Eric Holder. : )


Yay for balanced news coverage!!! I wonder what we've missed about the NSA's activities thanks to that?
I was being more facetious, but it definitely is a good example of a non-story taking the headlines thanks to the media and president. I'm sure Americans have more important |expletive| to worry about than Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman, just like Omaha's don't really give a flying |expletive| about some chick sticking her |expletive| out on a fire truck.[/quote]

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Postby Coyote » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:07 pm

[font=Georgia]Omaha police will lead investigation of photos of woman on fire engine[/font]

Erin Golden: World-Herald staff writer wrote:Marty Bilek, Stothert's chief of staff, said the decision to have police investigators probe the incident was made "for the sake of fairness and impartiality," given recent dust ups between the Mayor's Office and fire administrators.
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Postby Coyote » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:14 pm

Who didn't see this coming:

[font=Georgia]Omaha's fire union sues City of Omaha over budget proposal[/font]

Erin Golden: World-Herald staff writer wrote:Omaha's fire union has filed a lawsuit against the City of Omaha, Mayor Jean Stothert and Fire Chief Mike McDonnell. The union said the mayor's budget, which calls for firefighter layoffs, demotions and pulling rigs out of service violates the labor contract the union has with the city.
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Postby guitarguy » Tue Jul 23, 2013 11:15 pm

jessep28 wrote:
S33 wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:[quote="S33"][quote="RNcyanide"]Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.
Kind of like the whole TM/GZ media distraction, perpetuated by the executive office and his henchman, Eric Holder. : )


Yay for balanced news coverage!!! I wonder what we've missed about the NSA's activities thanks to that?
I was being more facetious, but it definitely is a good example of a non-story taking the headlines thanks to the media and president. I'm sure Americans have more important |expletive| to worry about than Trayvon Martin and Zimmerman, just like Omaha's don't really give a flying |expletive| about some chick sticking her |expletive| out on a fire truck.[/quote]

Don't forget the royal baby.[/quote]

Funny I honestly didn't even know that she was pregnant haha my ignorance of said baby was a shock to everyone at work... I guess other countries news is better than our own at this point.

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Postby Omababe » Wed Jul 24, 2013 7:35 am

RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.


Well, HerHonor has it in for the Fire Department, the Fire Chief, and the Fire Union, so it's a convenient excuse to come down very heavy on them.

Also a convenient way to drive a wedge into the solidarity between the Police/Fire communities.

Jeesh! It's a bachelorette party! It's good clean fun! Every fire station I've ever known invites people to come in and yes, look at the equipment and yes, climb on it.

(Maybe she's p*ssed because she wasn't invited to the b'ette party?)

Just watch, there will be some kind of an over-reaching new "policy" regarding civilians in fire stations! :(

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Postby jessep28 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 9:01 am

I'm totally fine with the police looking into this if the fire department from now on gets to investigate the police department in allegations of officer misconduct.
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Postby bigredmed » Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:38 pm

RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.


Saw the pic from the OWH and can't see how this gets any kind of investigation.  What does is when they use their facility for a bachelor party or perhaps have photos that would only be shown in the "european edition" of the OWH.

I suspect that there is enough evidence of some error that it warrants an investigation.  The fire chief was trying to cover it up by having his brother-cousins, er fellow firemen investigate it.  Stothert wants some serious scalpage with this guy and is going to let the OPD have at it so she can wait for the head to fall into the basket and keep her hands clean.

The fire chief doesn't understand that she is the wife of the guy who spent a couple of decades as the fire department's MD.  Much of that time as an unpaid volunteer who was rudely s-canned by this chief.  He knows where the bodies are buried and pillow talk is way more powerful than a job action.   He is like a slice of Orsi bread at Louie M's, toast.

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Postby RNcyanide » Wed Jul 24, 2013 6:51 pm

bigredmed wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.


Saw the pic from the OWH and can't see how this gets any kind of investigation.  What does is when they use their facility for a bachelor party or perhaps have photos that would only be shown in the "european edition" of the OWH.

I suspect that there is enough evidence of some error that it warrants an investigation.  The fire chief was trying to cover it up by having his brother-cousins, er fellow firemen investigate it.  Stothert wants some serious scalpage with this guy and is going to let the OPD have at it so she can wait for the head to fall into the basket and keep her hands clean.

The fire chief doesn't understand that she is the wife of the guy who spent a couple of decades as the fire department's MD.  Much of that time as an unpaid volunteer who was rudely s-canned by this chief.  He knows where the bodies are buried and pillow talk is way more powerful than a job action.   He is like a slice of Orsi bread at Louie M's, toast.


Totally forgot about that. A bit unprofessional of her if that is her modus operandi, but understandable.
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Postby Uffda » Wed Jul 24, 2013 8:36 pm

So then what does the mayor do if OPD investigates and finds no wrong doing?

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Postby Brad » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:32 pm

Uffda wrote:So then what does the mayor do if OPD investigates and finds no wrong doing?


Hopefully let it go and move on to more important things...
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Postby jessep28 » Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:46 pm

Brad wrote:
Uffda wrote:So then what does the mayor do if OPD investigates and finds no wrong doing?


Hopefully let it go and move on to more important things...


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Postby joeglow » Fri Jul 26, 2013 9:20 am

Omababe wrote:
RNcyanide wrote:Good lord. I can't decide if they legitimately have nothing else better to do or if there's something going on that they want to distract us from.


Well, HerHonor has it in for the Fire Department, the Fire Chief, and the Fire Union, so it's a convenient excuse to come down very heavy on them.

Also a convenient way to drive a wedge into the solidarity between the Police/Fire communities.

Jeesh! It's a bachelorette party! It's good clean fun! Every fire station I've ever known invites people to come in and yes, look at the equipment and yes, climb on it.

(Maybe she's p*ssed because she wasn't invited to the b'ette party?)

Just watch, there will be some kind of an over-reaching new "policy" regarding civilians in fire stations! :(


Try that at your job Omababe.  We let kids come into our office for different reasons.  I assure you this type of behavior opens up a completely different can of worms that would not be tolerated in 99% of workplaces.

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Postby Bosco55David » Fri Jul 26, 2013 2:23 pm

joeglow wrote:Try that at your job Omababe.  We let kids come into our office for different reasons.  I assure you this type of behavior opens up a completely different can of worms that would not be tolerated in 99% of workplaces.


I know, right? Cute little kids are cool. Attractive women are not. God forbid we let those uptight losers get offended.

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Postby jessep28 » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:00 pm

The only thing I think needs to be addressed is letting people stand on the equipment. Imagine if she lost her footing and fell down.
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Postby Bosco55David » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:20 pm

jessep28 wrote:The only thing I think needs to be addressed is letting people stand on the equipment. Imagine if she lost her footing and fell down.


One of my friends from back home is an OFD firefighter. When this all came out, he posted literally about a hundred pictures he had taken over the years of little kids who had come in and wanted to see the firetrucks. And yes, almost all of them were on/in the equipment.

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Postby Brad » Fri Jul 26, 2013 3:45 pm

From what I have seen on tv, I kind of think the only "violation" that occurred here is that they were in there after visiting house.
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Postby Coyote » Fri Jul 26, 2013 6:30 pm

[font=Georgia]Investigation Into Fire Station Complete[/font]


KFAB wrote:"Omaha Police Department has determined the information alleging criminal behavior was clearly unsubstantiated.  However, there are possible workplace rules violations that will be forwarded to Fire Chief McDonnell for appropriate disciplinary action if warranted."
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Postby Omababe » Mon Jul 29, 2013 6:27 am

Bosco55David wrote:When this all came out, he posted literally about a hundred pictures he had taken over the years of little kids who had come in and wanted to see the firetrucks. And yes, almost all of them were on/in the equipment.


... and because of this incident, there will most likely be some kind of new "policy" on this. :(


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