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Which evening news do you watch the most (5p 6p 10p)

KMTV Channel 3 (No Cable/Dish)
2
2%
KMTV Channel 3 (With Cable/Dish)
5
5%
WOWT Channel 6 (No Cable/Dish)
3
3%
WOWT Channel 6 (With Cable/Dish)
26
26%
KETV Channel 7 (No Cable/Dish)
9
9%
KETV Channel 7 (With Cable/Dish)
34
34%
KPTM Channel 42 (No Cable/Dish)
1
1%
KPTM Channel 42 (With Cable/Dish)
1
1%
I don't watch Local News
12
12%
I don't have a TV
3
3%
I watch whatever channel it happens to be on
1
1%
I watch whatever the TV in the Bar is showing
3
3%
 
Total votes: 100

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Re: Omaha Local News Channels

Postby nebugeater » Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:00 pm

as bad as KETV is getting KMTV is worse by a mile.
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Postby Brad » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:09 pm

It's currently 6:09 according their own clock on the screen and WOWT has failed to get their 6 pm news on the air...
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Postby Brad » Mon Jan 30, 2017 6:21 pm

Brad wrote:It's currently 6:09 according their own clock on the screen and WOWT has failed to get their 6 pm news on the air...


On the air at 6:18, from the news room, not the set. No graphics and no video from the field.
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Postby damonhynes » Tue Jan 31, 2017 6:45 am

swinquest wrote:What happened to the Channel 3 morning person....Deanne I think?


She disappeared. Nothing on her FB, not replying. Posting on Twit like nothing happened. I like Emily Szink--I think she'll go places, and soon--but she isn't my visual cup of tea. So no Channel Third in the AM for me.
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Postby Uffda » Tue Jan 31, 2017 11:02 pm

swinquest wrote:What happened to the Channel 3 morning person....Deanne I think?


She left a few weeks ago. All I heard them say - was her las show had been the week before. But I missed any reference to future.

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Postby jessep28 » Tue Feb 07, 2017 8:04 pm

I got my survey packet from Nielsen. It's just a static timeline of which station is being watched on each television by whom for a week. No subjective input on TV markets. They also included $35 in beer money, so that's a nice touch.
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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:24 pm

jessep28 wrote:I got my survey packet from Nielsen. It's just a static timeline of which station is being watched on each television by whom for a week. No subjective input on TV markets. They also included $35 in beer money, so that's a nice touch.


The lack of imput from them is par for the course..

At least you got some beer money...

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:05 am

mrsticka wrote:Okay, I contacted Nielsen again. I don't know when or if they'll respond.


It's been a couple of weeks- Any update on this.. I assume they did not respond to your 2nd inquiry?...

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Postby mrsticka » Sun Feb 12, 2017 12:08 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote:
mrsticka wrote:Okay, I contacted Nielsen again. I don't know when or if they'll respond.


It's been a couple of weeks- Any update on this.. I assume they did not respond to your 2nd inquiry?...

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Correct.

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 2:48 am

mrsticka wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:
mrsticka wrote:Okay, I contacted Nielsen again. I don't know when or if they'll respond.


It's been a couple of weeks- Any update on this.. I assume they did not respond to your 2nd inquiry?...

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Correct.


The expected answer..

Now, mrsticka, what have you learned from this experience and what are your plans moving forward? (assuming you still have a passion for this issue and don't accept just leaving it as is)...

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Postby mrsticka » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:26 am

What have I learned? That contacting them is useless? As for moving forward, that's a head scratcher. Sorry.

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sun Feb 12, 2017 9:52 am

mrsticka wrote:What have I learned? That contacting them is useless? As for moving forward, that's a head scratcher. Sorry.


Answering a question with a question is a head scratcher indeed.. I guess I expected more..

Anywho, thanks for at least taking the time to contact them with some imput. You've done more than most...

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Postby mrsticka » Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:52 pm

I just don't know what else to do.

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Postby Omababe » Mon Feb 13, 2017 4:14 am

mrsticka wrote:I just don't know what else to do.


Some kind of grassroots online petition, maybe? :)

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Re: Omaha Local News Channels

Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue Feb 14, 2017 12:24 pm

I have to say, Alexandra Stone has been a very competent replacement for Melissa Fry while she's been out on maternity leave (KETV 7 morning anchor).. I like Melissa, but am getting very used to Alexandra in the morning..

It's weird too, that it was a year or so ago when Melissa Fry replaced the now long gone Alex Hoffman in the AM when she was on maternity leave.. I felt the same way about Melissa, lol. Let's hope when Fry comes back, she plans to stay...

Anyone else who watches 7 in the AM have any imput on this to share?...

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Postby Mr.Nuke » Tue Feb 14, 2017 2:23 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote:You could reason that geographically, Omaha/Lincoln being 45 minutes apart, should have a combined television market covering the eastern 1/3rd of Nebraska, along with the current counties in Western Iowa and one in Missouri. You could reason that the Tri-City TV Market (Grand Island/Kearney/Hastings) cover the middle 1/3rd to western front range..then the Western 1/3rd could be covered partially by North Platte..although Western Nebraska is dominated by the Denver and Rapid City, SD markets currently, so the western 1/3rd could remain the same..

Logical? Yes, but that isn’t how Neilsen defines a DMA.
A DMA region is a group of counties that form an exclusive geographic area in which the home market television stations hold a dominance of total hours viewed.

http://www.nielsen.com/intl-campaigns/us/dma-maps.html
I don’t know how accurate the following source is, but it would make some sense.

A DMA is a region or territory where people get the same television and radio options. (skipping several paragraphs) …
The deciding factor in determining which DMA Nielsen assigns a county comes down to viewing habits.
If more than 50% of homes in a county watch Baltimore TV stations, then the county is assigned to the Baltimore DMA. That's true even if the county is geographically closer to another city, like Washington, DC.

https://www.thebalance.com/what-is-a-de ... ma-2315180
25 years ago when I lived in Lincoln and it was only KOLN for CBS and NBC and ABC both came out of Omaha I could’ve made a compelling argument that Lincoln was and should be part of the Omaha DMA. Even up until about 10 years ago I still could’ve made the argument. However, based on the Nielsen definition and largely through the part of Gray I cannot make that argument anymore.
Lincoln now has their own ABC station (despite the fact KETV remains on time warner), and not to be conspiratorial, but Gray switched out WOWT in Lincoln for KSNB in Hastings. The only reason to make that move that I can think of is to pretty much solidify that Lincoln and the Tri-Cities are indeed a separate DMA. Based on Nielsen’s DMA definition there is no chance that this changes now.



jessep28 wrote:It would probably make sense to have KOLN (CBS), KFXL (Fox) and KLKN (ABC) in the tri cities and then expand the Omaha media market out to Lincoln. The NBC affiliate which serves Lincoln is based in the tri cities region.

Ignoring Gray’s near monopoly for a second the first of many problems with this suggestion is why would the owners of those stations cede Lincoln? Losing Lincoln for the current Lincoln DMA license holders would be a huge financial blow. Lincoln probably represents 2/3 to ¾ of the households in that market. Conversely at the same time (and particularly based on Gray’s actions) I’m not sure that advertising revenue from Lincoln households would offset the extra costs of having to cover a wider territory and potentially paying talent more for being in a higher DMA market. It seems from the business end people are happy with the status quo.

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue Feb 14, 2017 7:06 pm

Well, all I can say is Nielsen's "definition" of a DMA has shortchanged what should have been established over 35+ years ago- a combined Omaha- Lincoln Television Market. I lived in Lincoln for 3 years attending college in the 80's.. The Omaha TV stations were the ones most watched.. and it wasn't even close..

How Nielsen views and defines the Omaha TV Market is total BS in my book.. But I'm just an average Joe on the street.. What do I know? :roll: ...

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Postby mrsticka » Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:10 am

I suppose a TV company that has the basic amenities (if that's the right word) of both cable and satellite is the answer. Cable–Getting out-of-market TV stations. Satellite-Built in DVR service.

I guess Prism TV comes close. But they're not available in Lincoln. Maybe someday they will be. Who knows?

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Postby Candleshoe » Fri Feb 24, 2017 3:49 pm

Gray, having both Ch 10 in Lincoln and Ch 11 in Grand Island, operating as a "satellite" of KOLN , would have zero interest in a smaller sized DMA. Major Ad agency buys are placed in a predetermined number of markets and the higher you rank, the more bucks you'll get. The benefit to NTV and KSNB is in getting ad revenue based on a larger DMA than they actually realistically serve. Gray gets the benefit of having the Central and South Central counties pad its numbers in the Lincoln footprint, assuring it of a higher rated market than it actually and realistically serves.

The Tri City radio market finally broke the Lincoln stranglehold regarding Arbitron and is now market #251 out of 268. Lincoln now comes in at #168. The Tri Cities benefits because being part of the Lincoln radio DMA, the lions share of the major ad agency buys were placed on Lincoln stations. A Tri Cities fast food franchise holder, for example, might not have any of his contributed coop ad money spent within 90 miles of his businesses. Years ago I questioned the lack of a Wendys radio buy anywhere in the Tri Cities on behalf of the franchise holder(the local franchise holder contributed thousands and thousands of bucks). The New York City agency replied, "that's ridiculous, we spent a ton of money in Lincoln".

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:15 pm

Candleshoe wrote:Gray, having both Ch 10 in Lincoln and Ch 11 in Grand Island, operating as a "satellite" of KOLN , would have zero interest in a smaller sized DMA. Major Ad agency buys are placed in a predetermined number of markets and the higher you rank, the more bucks you'll get. The benefit to NTV and KSNB is in getting ad revenue based on a larger DMA than they actually realistically serve. Gray gets the benefit of having the Central and South Central counties pad its numbers in the Lincoln footprint, assuring it of a higher rated market than it actually and realistically serves.

The Tri City radio market finally broke the Lincoln stranglehold regarding Arbitron and is now market #251 out of 268. Lincoln now comes in at #168. The Tri Cities benefits because being part of the Lincoln radio DMA, the lions share of the major ad agency buys were placed on Lincoln stations. A Tri Cities fast food franchise holder, for example, might not have any of his contributed coop ad money spent within 90 miles of his businesses. Years ago I questioned the lack of a Wendys radio buy anywhere in the Tri Cities on behalf of the franchise holder(the local franchise holder contributed thousands and thousands of bucks). The New York City agency replied, "that's ridiculous, we spent a ton of money in Lincoln".


Good read Candleshoe :thumb: ..

It would seem, like most everything else, the almighty $$ trumps reality as it relates to DMA television markets as "defined" by Nielsen..and the Omaha DMA in particular...

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Postby swinquest » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:32 pm

Is someone leaving the "Morning Blend"?

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon Mar 27, 2017 10:46 pm

Is it just me or has KETV 7 morning co anchor Melissa Fry been on the longest maturnity leave in the history of motherhood?!..

Alexandra Stone has done a very nice job in her place. Melissa seems to have been gone so long, she may have to reapply for her job, lol...

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Postby Coyote » Tue Mar 28, 2017 5:55 am

Omaha Cowboy wrote:Is it just me or has KETV 7 morning co anchor Melissa Fry been on the longest maturity leave in the history of motherhood?!..


I hope you meant maternity leave...
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Coyote wrote:
Omaha Cowboy wrote:Is it just me or has KETV 7 morning co anchor Melissa Fry been on the longest maturity leave in the history of motherhood?!..


I hope you meant maternity leave...


Yeah, it was late and I was auto corrected..

Fixed.. And Fry's been gone so long, they've added new on air talent to the AM team she's never worked with before...

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swinquest wrote:Is someone leaving the "Morning Blend"?


Mary Nelson leaving for a job at QVC.
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Postby swinquest » Sun Apr 02, 2017 10:51 pm

Is it just me or is Bill and Julie taking a lot of time off lately? I think that this is a sign that they may be moving???

Any thoughts?

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swinquest wrote:Is it just me or is Bill and Julie taking a lot of time off lately? I think that this is a sign that they may be moving???

Any thoughts?


Well, since I have DISH, I can't tell you... :lol:

By the time I get 7 back, Melissa Fry will be on her second maternity leave!
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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Mon Apr 03, 2017 12:28 pm

damonhynes wrote:By the time I get 7 back, Melissa Fry will be on her second maternity leave!


Unless she was back this morning (I didn't catch the AM broadcast today), Fry is still out on her first maternity leave..

The longest leave in the history of motherhood, lol...

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Postby nebugeater » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:18 pm

Omaha Cowboy wrote:
damonhynes wrote:By the time I get 7 back, Melissa Fry will be on her second maternity leave!


Unless she was back this morning (I didn't catch the AM broadcast today), Fry is still out on her first maternity leave..

The longest leave in the history of motherhood, lol...

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Postby Brad » Mon Apr 03, 2017 2:35 pm

Looks like the baby was born 1/12/2017. If you take the typical 12 weeks that most people seem to take these days that puts her return date at 4/6/2017, this Thursday.
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swinquest wrote:Is it just me or is Bill and Julie taking a lot of time off lately? I think that this is a sign that they may be moving???

Any thoughts?



Its just you. They are about as entrenched at 7 as you can get. Final answer.

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Postby Brad » Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:13 pm

Here's your answer

MediaWatchOMA wrote:Three months of @AlexGStoneKETV filling in for @MelissaFry7, who has been on maternity leave, ends Wednesday on @KETV at 5 p.m.
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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:14 pm

Brad wrote:Here's your answer

MediaWatchOMA wrote:Three months of @AlexGStoneKETV filling in for @MelissaFry7, who has been on maternity leave, ends Wednesday on @KETV at 5 p.m.


It's about time, lol..

Seriously though, it'll be good to have Fry back.. I just hope she doesn't decide, after being back on the job for 3 months, to leave like Alex Hoffman did before her..after returning from her maturity leave the previous year...

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Postby Omababe » Wed Apr 05, 2017 4:11 am

I've noticed this more and more and more lately, specifically on KMTV and KETV (I seldom watch WOWT news anymore).

They seem to be referring to street names improperly quite a bit. "Ames STREET" and "Giles STREET" (multiple times) are the two most recent.

I would THINK that those in the local newsrooms would be familiar enough with Omaha to know that those major thoroughfares are Ames Avenue and Giles Road. Even their outsourced competitor, with studios in Fresno or Muscatine or wherever they have it this week seems to get it right!

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Postby Silverspoon » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:43 pm

Does anybody know why Deanne Brink left the local news?
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Silverspoon wrote:Does anybody know why Deanne Brink left the local news?


I expect she has non-disparagement and non-compete clauses. She just fell off the social-media planet.
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Postby mrsticka » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:21 am

Is KETV still not back on Dish? If not, then what gives?

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Postby Omaha Cowboy » Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:53 am

mrsticka wrote:Is KETV still not back on Dish? If not, then what gives?


Who knows mrsticka..I have Cox Cable and it's certainly doing fine there..

Maybe you should email Neilsen and ask your question lol...

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Postby mrsticka » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:03 am

It's not Nielsen's fault. They have nothing to do with it. It's between Dish and Hearst.

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Postby nebugeater » Sat Apr 15, 2017 6:20 am

mrsticka wrote:It's not Nielsen's fault. They have nothing to do with it. It's between Dish and Hearst.


Correct it is. Hearst had a weeks long disput with Direct TV just a few months ago. They are fighting with plenty cable companies too. Cox may get their turn too. Of the 150 or so Chanel take downs so,far this year Across all providers and all Chanel owners Hearst is involved in well over half of them
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